The Next Precedent Podcast

Could AI one day hand down judgments? In Episode 3 of The Next Precedent, Ebrahim Tayob and Shoaib Laher sit down with Naazneen Khan, attorney, notary, mediator and Director at Schwim Venter Khan Inc., to talk about what AI is really changing inside law firms.

In this episode:

• From cake decorating to law firm director: Naazneen's journey into law

• Running a firm on systems instead of spreadsheets

• Why time recording is still painful, and clients using ChatGPT to check legal bills

• Does AI kill the billable hour, or make legal services more accessible?

• What happens to candidate attorneys when AI does the grunt work

• South Africa's legal sector vs the world, and why it can take two years to get a court date

• Naazneen's two predictions for the future of law

About our guest

Naazneen Khan is an admitted Attorney, Notary Public and Mediator, Director at Schwim Venter Khan Inc. and co-founder of Dignified Dispute Resolution. She is a TEDx speaker and sits on the board of AIMURE.

Connect with Naazneen

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/naazneen-khan-a367161b6

Schwim Venter Khan Inc.: https://www.schwimventer.co.za

Dignified Dispute Resolution: https://www.ddrsa.co.za

TEDx talk: https://youtu.be/VlFP_o1EAC4

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The Next Precedent: Law. Technology. The Future.

AI is moving faster than most businesses can keep up with. But are we actually ready for what comes next?

In Episode 2 of The Next Precedent, Shoaib sits down with Ebrahim "EbT" Tayob to explore AI adoption, technology, innovation and the challenges businesses face as AI becomes part of everyday professional life.

We discuss whether Law Firms should be embracing AI now, what holds organisations back, and whether concerns about AI replacing people are justified.

We also look at what a modern Law Firm's technology stack should look like and the discuss the consequences of not investing in the stack.

The episode includes a surprising trip into history, looking at the Ottoman Empire's experience with the internal combustion engine and what it can teach us about how organisations respond to transformative technology today.

And, of course, we have a bit of fun along the way. EbT suggest we put AI to the test and discovers what happens when you give it his voice and let it loose with a very questionable Bollywood accent.

Is AI ready for the real world, or are we moving faster than businesses can adapt?

This is The Next Precedent. Real conversations about technology, business and the future of professional services.

Welcome to the very first episode of The Next Precedent Podcast.

In this episode, hosts Shoaib Laher and Mohammed Ebrahim Teyob introduce themselves, explain why they started the podcast, and share their vision for exploring the technologies transforming the legal profession.

We discuss the opportunities and challenges surrounding artificial intelligence, legal technology, cybersecurity, digital transformation, and innovation within modern law firms. Whether you're a Managing Partner, lawyer, CIO, IT Director, Legal Operations professional, or simply interested in the future of legal services, this podcast is designed to provide practical insights and real-world conversations.

This episode sets the foundation for what's to come and why we believe the legal profession is entering a new era where technology is becoming the next precedent.

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