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"There’s the way it ought to be and there’s the way it is.”

Oliver Stone had written his experiences as a soldier in Vietnam shortly after his return to the US but he wouldn’t get a chance to direct it for nearly 20 years. In that time, he wrote other scripts and started his directing career. When Platoon was finally made and released in 1986, it became the first film about the Vietnam War made by an actual veteran of it. The film was received well and set Stone on his career path as a director with a specific vision... and with specific messages. Join us – Pete Wright and Andy Nelson – as we continue our Oliver Stone in the 80s series with the 1986 film Platoon.

We talk about how the film holds up today and why it works well, even if there are elements in some character depictions that feel very much like tropes now. We chat about Charlie Sheen as the young protagonist and how he balances with Willem Dafoe and Tom Berenger as two of his sergeants with very different senses of morality. We look at the rest of the incredible cast and how well everyone did. We discuss Dale Dye and his role in this film and war films afterward. We touch on the cinematography and music and how well it all works in context of the film. And we debate some of the uses of narration and if it is too much or too on the nose.

It’s a strong film that’s worth revisiting and talking about. We have a great conversation about it on this week’s show so check it out then tune in. The Next Reel – when the movie ends, our conversation begins!

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Hal Ashby was behind several seminal films from the 60s and 70s, but by the time the 80s rolled around, his addictions made him unreliable. For his last feature film, he tackled novelist Lawrence Block’s famous character Matthew Scudder, and initially it sounded like it could be promising. Oliver Stone adapted the novel, and he’d proven he had a gritty edge to his work as a writer through the first half of the decade. Unfortunately the producers and Ashby wanted to move the story from New York to LA. While not an obvious problem, this decision seemed to set in motion a series of creative changes that led to several writers – including Ashby – tackling the script and eventually the film getting taken away from Ashby before going into post-production. The issues show through, but that doesn’t mean the film doesn’t have its merits. Join us – Pete Wright and Andy Nelson – as we continue our Oliver Stone in the 80s series with Ashby’s 1986 film 8 Million Ways to Die.

We talk about the problems we have with the script and direction, but find ourselves on two sides of liking this film – Pete didn’t like it at all and Andy really enjoyed it. We chat about Ashby’s moments of character and humanity that come through several key scenes, notably when Bridges’ character of Scudder is speaking at AA dealing with his alcoholism. We look at Rosanna Arquette and Alexandra Paul as two high-class hookers and how well they do, as well as Randy Brooks and Andy Garcia as the men Scudder comes up against. We look at the cinematography and the score. And we fawn over several of the key locations in the film, notably the one with the funicular.

It’s a film that fails on many counts but also one with some compelling things going for it. We’re split on it here but still think it’s worth a watch so check it out then tune in! The Next Reel – when the movie ends, our conversation begins!

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"Nobody just disappears in El Salvador.”

News of the civil war in El Salvador certainly was prevalent in the early 80s when Oliver Stone returned to the director’s chair. For his return, he joined forces with photojournalist Richard Boyle to tell Boyle’s own stories of his time in El Salvador during the US’s transition from Carter to Reagan and how US aid to the military junta running the country was fueling the death squads and atrocities. The political angle seemed ripe for Stone and the types of stories he wanted to tell, but it also seemed to be an early example of his stories focusing more on the policies than the people. Join us – Pete Wright and Andy Nelson – as we continue our Oliver Stone in the 80s series with Stone’s 1986 film Salvador.

We talk about the politics of El Salvador to get a sense of the dictatorship at the time and why the US was providing ‘aid,’ and how that gave Stone the angle he wanted for his film. We debate the idea of having Boyle as our protagonist, as portrayed by James Woods, because he’s such a despicable character from start to finish. We talk about the idea of photojournalists and the angle they take when looking for the perfect photo and why that idea seems to get lost for such a time in the film. We look at the other actors and talk about what they’re bringing to the table. And we discuss the technical angles and why those elements work.

It’s a frustrating film that doesn’t give us what we want in a film about a Central American dictatorship and the atrocities committed, but does at least provide a window for curious Americans to start their own explorations. We have a great time talking about it on the show this week so check it out then tune in. The Next Reel – when the movie ends, our conversation begins!

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As a writer-director, Oliver Stone can maintain a clear vision and deliver the story he wants. When he’s working as a writer for hire, it’s often difficult to clearly get his story across. This certainly was the case when he worked on Year of the Dragon with director Michael Cimino, who wanted to add a Vietnam vet element to the story that wasn’t in the original source material. Stone did that and wrote an effective script, but between the two of them (both credited writers), they seemed to lose any sense as to how to write a fully fleshed out story. Join us – Pete Wright and Andy Nelson – as we continue our Oliver Stone in the 80s series with Cimino’s 1985 film Year of the Dragon.

We talk about the problems we find in this story as they relate to the characters and their relationships but find we disagree on our overall reactions to the film. Pete found the problems weighed the entire thing down and didn’t like any of it but Andy found the crime story incredibly compelling and made the film enjoyable, despite its character issues. We discuss the actors and why some of them work better than others. We look at the cinematography and why so much looks great though conversations can often be bland. And we go on about the crime story and how the research they did in this area pays off to make it feel authentic.

It’s a film full of issues but it’s going to be the individual viewer’s ability to look past them or not that will determine if they enjoy it or not. We had a great time talking about it regardless, so check it out then tune in! The Next Reel – when the movie ends, our conversation begins!

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When Oliver Stone was hired to write the adaptation of Howard Hawks’ 1932 film Scarface, Sidney Lumet was on board to direct the film. Lumet wanted to update the story with a modern angle using colorful Miami in the early 80s as its backdrop focusing on the Cuban refugees coming in on the Mariel boatlift, specifically the criminal element. Stone loved the idea and took the job for that reason alone. Dealing with his own cocaine issue, Stone researched heavily for the film and wrote a gritty story that Lumet didn’t like but producer Marty Bregman did. Lumet left and Brian De Palma came on board instead. And thus, the film was born. Join us – Pete Wright and Andy Nelson – as we continue our Oliver Stone in the 80s series with Brian De Palma’s 1983 film Scarface.

We talk about the over-the-top nature of the film, from the performances to the violence to the swearing, and how it works for us. We look at Pacino’s excitement about the project and how his initial viewing of the original film actually spurred this film on to begin with. We chat about Stone and his development of the script including some scary trips to South America to meet with people involved in the drug trade. We discuss what De Palma is doing here and why his creative filmmaking style works well for the story. We look at the nature of the stereotypes depicted in the film and why it affected people so much. And we touch on the original X-rating and the lengths De Palma went through to get his original version in theatres.

We have a great time talking about this movie, even if it’s a difficult one to watch. Check it out then tune in! The Next Reel – when the movie ends, our conversation begins!

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