The Nextcloud Podcast

The Nextcloud Podcast

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  • Nextcloud Platform: Laying bricks for a growing ecosystem of apps

    The Nextcloud App Store has around 600 apps. The goal is 6,000.

    For this episode, we recorded live on stage at the Nextcloud Community Conference 2026 in Berlin. Our guest is Andy Scherzinger, VP of Engineering at Nextcloud, who already told us about his path into open source in an earlier episode. This time, we skip the backstory and go straight to one ambitious question: where will ten times as many apps come from?

    Andy explains why developers choose to build for Nextcloud and how to decide between a classic PHP app and an ExApp that runs in a container and can be written in any language. He also talks about why reaching for private APIs should start a conversation with Developer Relations, and why a test system, not production, is the place to explore the OCS API.

    We discuss how the App Store now flags apps that look unmaintained, how others can adopt them, and how AI coding agents can help keep older apps alive, as long as the code is still understood, reviewed, and tested. Finally, Andy shares how Nextcloud supports new developers through tutorials, forums, planned office hours, app clinics, and the ISV Partner Program, and where he hopes the ecosystem will be a year from now.

    Have an idea for a Nextcloud app? Don’t wait. Start with the developer tutorials and the developer manual, or bring your questions to the developer forum. If you want to bring your Nextcloud app to market, have a look at the ISV Partner Program.

    I think that’s one of the big motivators: You want to build something for yourself or also for others that respects privacy, that gives you sovereignty.

    Andy ScherzingerVP of Engineering at Nextcloud
    Episode links
    • Nextcloud app development tutorials
    • Nextcloud developer documentation
    • ExApp development documentation
    • OCS API Viewer app
    • Mind Map app
    • Nextcloud help forum
    • Nextcloud developer forum
    • Nextcloud ISV Partner Program
    • Nextcloud Community Conference 2026
    • The post Nextcloud Platform: Laying bricks for a growing ecosystem of apps appeared first on Nextcloud.

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    • Anna Larch: Community management and DevRel at Nextcloud in the age of AI PRs

      Nextcloud just turned 10 years old, and Anna Larch has been with it for more than half of that.

      Starting out as part of the Nextcloud Groupware team, Anna later worked on the backend for Nextcloud Talk and now leads the newly established Developer Relations team. She works with community members, independent developers, and partners to support them in developing for the Nextcloud ecosystem.

      In this episode, we talk with her about Nextcloud’s shift toward more structured developer relations and community management, which includes consolidating its developer resources into one structured course, making API documentation more accessible, and managing the surge of AI-assisted pull requests from community contributors. Anna also shares her views on the growing need for digital sovereignty fueled by the tension between the GDPR and US CLOUD Act, Nextcloud’s new ISV Partner Program, and why the Nextcloud Community Awards favor small and niche contributors instead of those with the biggest audiences.

      Anna will host a breakout track on how to set up a Nextcloud developer instance with Nextcloud Docker Dev at the Nextcloud Community Conference 2026, taking place September 19–20 in Berlin, Germany. Visit the Community Conference page to learn more about the agenda and how to register. There will also be a keynote detailing the newest features in Nextcloud Hub 26 Summer, which launches on September 16. Join the livestream on your favorite platform to get your questions answered live by the Nextcloud team.

      When people tell me what they use Nextcloud for, it always gives me a push towards trying to make my work even better. Because I know it’s not for nothing.

      Anna LarchDeveloper Relations at Nextcloud
      Episode links
      • Anna Larch on LinkedIn
      • Nextcloud documentation
      • Nextcloud app development tutorials
      • Nextcloud help forum
      • Nextcloud developer forum
      • “Building your first Nextcloud app” beginner workshop on YouTube
      • Nextcloud ISV Partner Program
      • Nextcloud Community Awards 2026
      • Nextcloud Community Conference 2026
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        57 min
      • Learn, play, choose: Prof. Dr. Johanna Pirker on AI, games, and open source

        What can Elden Ring teach you about resilience?

        In this episode, we are joined by Prof. Dr. Johanna Pirker, professor of computer science at TU Munich and TU Graz, founder of the Game Lab Graz, and a member of the UN Independent International Scientific Panel on AI.

        Johanna Pirker works at the intersection of AI, games, virtual and augmented reality, and human-computer interaction. In 2018, Forbes included her in the “30 Under 30 Europe” list for her work in using VR and games to improve digital education. In 2020, she received the Käthe Leichter Prize for her efforts in diversity in engineering and the games industry. Her book “The Game Is On: How Gaming Revolutionizes Our World” published in 2025, makes the case for gaming as a means to reshape how people learn, work, and interact.

        Inspired by her participation in the Nextcloud Summit 2026 panel session “From open source to open ecosystems: Europe’s next digital play”, we invited Johanna to continue the conversation in our podcast. We tap into her perspective on where gaming meets learning, learning meets AI, and where open source tools foster innovation in her fields. What do video games and learning have in common? Why should we all learn how AI works and how it doesn’t? And finally, how can open source help us build a better future for science and innovation? Let’s find out!

        I cannot think of anything negative coming out of open source. Open source is so good to show others what is going on, to involve them, to see what might not work yet, to find collaborations, to help to reproduce it, which is super important in science, to help boost open standards.

        Johanna PirkerProfessor of Computer Science at TU Munich and TU Graz
        Episode links
        • Johanna Pirker on LinkedIn
        • Johanna Pirker’s website
        • The UN Independent International Scientific Panel on AI
        • Maroon project
        • Game Lab Graz
        • Nextcloud Community Conference
        • The post Learn, play, choose: Prof. Dr. Johanna Pirker on AI, games, and open source appeared first on Nextcloud.

          57 min
        • Big Tech regulation, the sovereignty challenge, and sustainable digital ecosystem: In conversation with Aline Blankertz

          In this episode of the Nextcloud Podcast, our host Ingo meets Aline Blankertz, a German data economist and digital rights campaigner.

          Aline is an economist and Tech Economy Lead at Rebalance Now, where she works on strategies to counter concentrated power in digital markets. She combines years of experience in competition economics with a strong commitment to making markets democratically accountable.

          In the episode, we tap into Aline’s expertise in digital sovereignty, open source, and Big Tech regulation to answer some burning questions:

          • Why do some politicians and industries resist stronger enforcement against Big Tech companies? What can be done to overcome this resistance?
          • What role do open source and open standards play in reducing Europe’s dependency on Big Tech, and how can public procurement and regulations support this effort?
          • Sovereignty washing: how do hyperscalers leverage local actors to create an illusion of sovereignty?
          • What we consider extremely relevant is some form of regulatory sovereignty. From a societal perspective, we need to make sure that we can at least have the possibility to regulate companies. If we want to be a democracy, we want to make rules that apply to everyone. We also need to have the credibility that we can enforce these rules.

            Aline BlankertzTech Economy Lead, Rebalance Now

            And, of course, there’s one more thing we are all curious about: what to expect from the Nextcloud Summit panel session “From open source to open ecosystems: Europe’s next digital play”?

            Listen now to find out!

            Episode links
            • Aline Blankertz on LinkedIn
            • Rebalance Now
            • Nextcloud Summit registration and agenda
            • Want to be part of the conversation? Meet Aline Blankertz at the Nextcloud Summit 2026

              Aline joins us at the Nextcloud Summit 2026 on June 9 in Munich. She is one of the panelists in the hard-hitting discussion “From open source to open ecosystems: Europe’s next digital play”. The session is moderated by Ingo Dachwitz, political journalist at netzpolitik.org, and joined by Prof. Dr. Dennis-Kenji Kipker, Prof. Dr. Johanna Pirker and Holger Pfister.

              Join the Nextcloud Summit to attend the panel discussion and ask your questions to the participating panelists.

              Join the conversation

              Be part of the Nextcloud Summit, our biggest event up until now, and access a full day of learning, sharing, and collaborating on regaining freedom over your data, ensuring data remains in the hands of those who create it.

              June 9, 2026

              Munich, Germany

              Register now

              The post Big Tech regulation, the sovereignty challenge, and sustainable digital ecosystem: In conversation with Aline Blankertz appeared first on Nextcloud.

              1 hr
            • Curiosity, cooking and code: In conversation with Christian Wolf

              This episode of the Nextcloud Podcast is an exciting story from the community. And just in time before holidays, we are talking about cooking… and code. Meet Christian Wolf, a long-term Nextcloud contributor and maintainer of the famous Cookbook app!

              During his early coding days, Christian was trying to learn more about web applications. Seeking an app to sharpen his skills with, he came across the Cookbook app. Many years later, Christian is the main brain behind Cookbook, while the app is one of the most popular apps on Nextcloud App Store.

              Christian shares with us how he got into coding and open source, his work on the Cookbook app and his vision for its future, and tips for people who want to start developing for Nextcloud.

              Take an issue, dig into the code. You will be surprised how much you can even learn if you start reading Nextcloud core. You can understand it actually if you are into programming at all.

              Christian WolfNextcloud contributor and maintainer of the Cookbook app

              Tune in and find out:

              • How to get into coding from scratch?
              • What’s next for the Cookbook app?
              • Does AI have a place in the craft of cooking?
              • And what will Christian cook for Christmas?
              • Check out the Cookbook app on Nextcloud App store, organize and share your favourite recipes, and give your feedback to Christian if you have ideas for improvement. And happy holiday cooking!

                Episode links
                • Cookbook app in Nextcloud App store
                • Cookbook app on GitHub
                • Schema.org
                • Nextcloud Community Conference
                • Nextcloud Developer program: start developing apps today!
                • Nextcloud Community forum
                • The post Curiosity, cooking and code: In conversation with Christian Wolf appeared first on Nextcloud.

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                • Nextcloud AIO: The easiest way to self-host Nextcloud with Simon Lindner

                  In this episode, we meet Simon Lindner, software engineer at Nextcloud, the developer and main maintainer of Nextcloud All-in-One (AIO).

                  Back in 2021, Simon joined the Nextcloud team as a working student. Already a seasoned Nextcloud contributor and home user, he had a vision to make self-hosting Nextcloud more accessible to users by simplifying deployment, debugging, and maintenance.

                  This resulted in the creation of the Nextcloud AIO project: an official, simplified Nextcloud installation method based on Docker that includes a full Nextcloud setup with core services and recommended apps, and minimal manual configuration. Today, Nextcloud AIO is arguably the easiest way to get started with Nextcloud.

                  This episode balances between the history and present of Nextcloud AIO, Simon’s personal journey, and, of course, everything a meticulous admin wants to know. Tune in and find out:

                  • How many Nextcloud AIO instances are out there?
                  • Who would benefit more from migrating to Nextcloud AIO, and who should stick with the classic installation?
                  • I am a happy user who wants to engage with the engineers and community. Where do I go?
                  • Whether you are a long-term Nextcloud fan or new to self-hosting, these 40 minutes are time well spent. The episode is available on all popular podcast platforms. Listen, save, and share where you prefer!

                    Episode links

                    Find all references from our speakers here:

                    • Nextcloud AIO on GitHub
                    • How to use Nextcloud AIO 
                    • Nextcloud AIO FAQ
                    • How it works
                    • Reverse proxy documentation
                    • Migration documentation
                    • Community Containers overview
                    • Nextcloud AIO Helm Chart
                    • Manual Installation documentation
                    • Discover our latest release: Nextcloud Hub 25 Autumn

                      Start your instant trial right away or download the latest version!

                      Try nowDownload Nextcloud Hub

                      The post Nextcloud AIO: The easiest way to self-host Nextcloud with Simon Lindner appeared first on Nextcloud.

                      44 min
                    • Owning your data: The open source path with Nextcloud and MariaDB

                      We’re joined by Anna Widenius and Michael “Monty” Widenius, the people behind the MariaDB Foundation, who are here to help us unpack the challenges of the open source business, vendor lock-in, and owning your data through their unique lens — and experience.

                      And believe us, you will be interested to hear their story!

                      Anna Widenius is a CEO of the MariaDB Foundation, an organization that supports the sustainability, governance, and community of MariaDB. As prominent a thought leader as she is a driving force in the open source business, Anna will share insights into what the foundation — and its mission — are today.

                      Monty is a highly influential figure in the world of database development and open source software. He is the creator of the original MySQL database and MariaDB, originally a fork of the former, and a project through which Monty continues to lead the way in open source innovation.

                      To me, data sovereignty means being able to control your own data. Where it leaves, who can access it, in what format. And yes, it’s part of a broader concept of digital sovereignty which is essentially about self-determination in the digital world. And that said, in many ways it all begins with open source because control and freedom go hand in hand.

                      Anna WideniusCEO, MariaDB Foundation

                      In this episode, after covering all the Whats, Whens, and Whys of open source and owning your data, we dive into more thought-provoking questions, including:

                      • What would MySQL be today without MariaDB?
                        • Is there anything Anna or Monty would have done differently?
                        • And the big one — a question every leader in an open source community must grapple with:

                          • How do you align your open source business with community stewardship and vitality?
                          • This episode is for anyone active in the open source community or interested in open source software, as Anna and Monty give a behind-the-scenes look with wit and insight!

                            Episode links

                            Find all references from our speakers here:

                            • Anna Widenius | LinkedIn
                            • Michael “Monty” Widenius | LinkedIn
                            • MariaDB Foundation
                            • MariaDB: Joining the Community
                            • Nextcloud Community Conference 2025
                            • MariaDB Server Fests
                            • Open Source Summit Europe
                            • Building Open Source Together with MariaDB: Frank Karlitschek, Nextcloud
                            • Nextcloud Enterprise: Content collaboration software for enterprises
                            • Join Monty’s keynote at the Nextcloud Community Conference!

                              Join the live keynote from Michael “Monty” Widenius at the Nextcloud Community Conference 2025. Grab your ticket today. See you at the #NextcloudConf2025!

                              Learn more

                              The post Owning your data: The open source path with Nextcloud and MariaDB appeared first on Nextcloud.

                              56 min
                            • Empowering through open source: Nextcloud's Director of Engineering Andy Scherzinger

                              In this episode, we dive into Andy Scherzinger’s journey from contributing to Nextcloud as a community member to becoming Director of Engineering. We explore his unique perspectives on our open source community, the importance of compliance in software development, and how he balances technical expertise with leadership responsibilities.

                              It gives me joy and recharges my batteries if at the end of the day I can see other people succeed.

                              Andy ScherzingerNextcloud’s Director of Engineering

                              From his approach to problem-solving and guiding others to his personal values that give him direction, this episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the intersection of technology, community, and personal growth.

                              Episode Links
                              • AndyScherzinger – GitHub
                              • Andy Scherzinger | LinkedIn
                              • The Nextclouder’s Journey with Julien Veyssier – Nextcloud Podcast
                              • Develop for Nextcloud: App development tutorials
                              • Nextcloud Enterprise: Content collaboration software for enterprises
                              • Ethical use of AI: five major challenges
                              • Google Graveyard – Killed by Google
                              • Nextcloud – GitHub
                              • The post Empowering through open source: Nextcloud’s Director of Engineering Andy Scherzinger appeared first on Nextcloud.

                                1 hr 12 min
                              • Open source and Nextcloud in government: Insights from Sven Thomsen, Schleswig-Holstein's CIO

                                In this episode, we explore how open source solutions are revolutionizing the way governments work, from collaboration and knowledge sharing to digital sovereignty and artificial intelligence.

                                Join us as we learn about the world of open source in government with Sven Thomsen, CIO of Schleswig-Holstein in Germany. Sven shares the factors that influenced their decision to adopt open source solutions, their implementation strategies along the way, and lessons learned from the adoption of open source in Munich.

                                We also discuss Schleswig-Holstein’s 10-year journey into open source, from desktop solutions to database systems, and how it has become a key part of their digital sovereignty strategy. Sven shares his insights on the current discussion in Germany about the importance of open standards, open source, and open interfaces in promoting the idea of European IT resiliency.

                                We also hear about the political and technical challenges they faced, including the successful implementation of Nextcloud as a central hub for collaboration and knowledge sharing in their federal state. Sven will share his thoughts on the “hidden champions” of open source and how Nextcloud’s new data automation platform has helped them solve some of the most difficult challenges in implementing the Online Access Act (OZG).

                                With AI based tools in Nextcloud, we were able to close an automation gap that we weren’t able to close with rule-based automations. Implementing AI-based microservices into the ecosystem of Nextcloud, and following Nextcloud’s very good AI strategy, we were able to implement something that is perfect for an organization like Schleswig-Holstein.

                                Sven ThomsenCIO of Schleswig-Holstein

                                Tune in to hear Sven’s words of advice for public sector adoptions, including the importance of community support and giving back. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in open source solutions in government or curious about the future of technology in the public sector.

                                Episode Links
                                • Welcome to Schleswig-Holstein – schleswig-holstein.de
                                • Sven Thomsen – Mastodon Schleswig-Holstein
                                • Nextcloud Flow: Automate your business processes
                                • Introducing Nextcloud Hub 9 – Federation, Data Automation and more!
                                • Nextcloud Enterprise Day 2024 – November 6 in Frankfurt
                                • Nextcloud Enterprise Day speaker spotlight: Felix Gebauer from Schleswig-Holstein
                                • Nextcloud Spotlight: German state Schleswig-Holstein’s 40k public administrators embrace Nextcloud
                                • German state & Nextcloud build digitally sovereign AI for public sector
                                • Webinar: Schleswig-Holstein and Nextcloud collaborate on a sovereign workplace
                                • The post Open source and Nextcloud in government: Insights from Sven Thomsen, Schleswig-Holstein’s CIO appeared first on Nextcloud.

                                  56 min
                                • Constanze Kurz: mass surveillance, Snowden, and the future of digital politics

                                  Your host Brent Gervais is joined by special guest Constanze Kurz – German computer scientist, hacker, activist and spokeswoman for the Chaos Computer Club (CCC). Constanze celebrates 20 years of Netzpolitik, an independent reader-supported organization that has been at the forefront of digital politics, regulation, and tech surveillance in Germany, and shares her insights on some of the most pressing issues facing us today.

                                  Edward Snowden’s disclosures in 2013 were not only revelatory but also catalyzed a necessary discussion around mass surveillance and yet Constanze argues we’ve since lost momentum in this critical conversation. She expresses concern that, as the public has become increasingly complacent, the intelligence services have grown even more powerful and influential.

                                  “We are in the age of mass surveillance. The problem is most of the public doesn’t discuss it anymore, and that its really a problem because what Snowden did was not only revealing, but also driving a debate. And we don’t have that debate anymore, and that really frustrates and concerns me.” – Constanze Kurz

                                  We reflect on the changing landscape of hacktivism and investigative reporting, and how policy is struggling to keep pace with modern technological advancements.

                                  Constanze also reminds us that there’s still much work to be done in addressing the pressing issues facing us today – from mass surveillance and data protection to predictive policing and platform capitalism.

                                  Episode Links
                                  • Constanze Kurz – Wikipedia
                                  • CCC – Choas Computer Club
                                  • netzpolitik.org
                                  • Data Broker Files: How data brokers sell our location data and jeopardise national security
                                  • Edward Snowden – Wikipedia
                                  • CITIZENFOUR – A film by Laura Poitras
                                  • 10 Years After Snowden | Electronic Frontier Foundation
                                  • The case of Edward Snowden – National Whistleblower Center
                                  • Snowden Archive – The Intercept
                                  • Hacker ethic – Wikipedia
                                  • Steven Levy – Wikipedia
                                  • Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution — Steven Levy
                                  • Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution – Wikipedia
                                  • Enshittification – Wikipedia
                                  • DEF CON 31 – An Audacious Plan to Halt the Internet’s Ensh*ttification – Cory Doctorow – YouTube
                                  • German Constitutional Court strikes down predictive algorithms for policing – Euractiv
                                  • CCC | The 38th Chaos Communication Congress: Illegal Instructions
                                  • Announcing Nextcloud Hub 9!
                                  • Nextcloud Enterprise Day 2024 – November 6 in Frankfurt
                                  • The post Constanze Kurz: mass surveillance, Snowden, and the future of digital politics appeared first on Nextcloud.

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