Welcome to The Nonlinear Library, where we use Text-to-Speech software to convert the best writing from the Rationalist and EA communities into audio. This is: Bryan Caplan meets Socrates, published by Sam Enright on February 5, 2022 on LessWrong.
Socrates and Glaucon are walking down from the Acropolis, when they encounter a stranger from a distant land.
Caplan: Greetings, Socrates.
Socrates: Greetings, stranger. From whence do you come?
Caplan: I am from a faraway land.
Socrates: Sparta? Thrace?
Caplan: Much further out than that.
Socrates: Where, then?
Caplan: It is not important right now. I have heard that you are the wisest man in Athens, and I have sought your expertise. Socrates, what is the purpose of education?
Socrates: To refine virtue, of course.
Caplan: And so those with an education are more virtuous than those without?
Socrates: Yes.
Caplan: Is it not true, then, that those with an education will be entrusted with greater responsibilities? That they will be made rulers, put in charge of important military expeditions, and will be respected craftsmen?
Socrates: Of course.
Caplan: After a time, will men not seek out an education just for these good consequences?
Socrates: They surely will. It would be better if they sought education for its own sake. Some men will seek it for its good consequences, but at least some will refine their virtues in doing so.
Caplan: What if sophists took over the academies, and no longer taught virtue at all? Men would learn nothing of import, and only become educated to enter the skilled professions.
Socrates: No one would trust such academies.
Caplan: Perhaps. But what if the academies taught both virtue and sophistry? Would the self-interested man not take lessons so as to give the appearance of virtue, while exerting himself to the minimum extent? And imagine, Socrates, that you are employing a skilled professional. Would you not employ that man with the greatest education?
Socrates: I surely would.
Caplan: Is it not the case, then, that to the professionals looking for workers, it does not matter whether they had a valuable education? It only matters that their education signals them to be good workers, who will show up on time and work to their greatest extent?
Socrates: It appears so.
Glaucon: Your words are indeed convincing, traveller. However, I do not see their import. Athens is the most learned city of them all, and even here boys are educated only for a few years. Boys will not sit around learning sophistry if there are wars to fight, or if there is food to grow.
Caplan: That is no doubt true, Glaucon. However, consider this: a ruler will be popular if he supports education. The people are not trained in philosophy, and they cannot follow the argument I have given you. And if they can, they do not wish to.
Socrates: The purpose of a ruler is not to be popul-
Caplan: Yes, yes! But it is only natural for a ruler to desire to be liked by his citizens.
Socrates: The education of a ruler should rid him of such desires, as I discussed before with Glaucon.
Caplan: Have we not already said that the academies can be infiltrated by sophists?
Socrates: I know of no such academy that philosophers respect.
Caplan: But men in the military and the skilled professions are not philosophers. They must rely on crude appearances, to save time. But let us put this aside for the moment. Rulers will be popular if they support education. They will also have been told from a young age that education instils virtue, even if it does not. Teachers themselves stand to gain a great deal from maintaining the prestige and wealth that rulers grant them. Rulers therefore will give much more wealth and esteem to education than it deserves.
Glaucon: Rubbish!
Socrates: Glaucon, restrain yourself! Our traveller has proved himself to be philosophically learned. But it is getting dark, and Glaucon must return home. I will think this over and we will discuss it in the morning.
The next evening.
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