The Old Fly Guy Network

Step inside the Air Zoo Aerospace & Science Museum in Kalamazoo, Michigan—one of the most immersive aviation and space museums in the United States, where history, engineering, and education come together in a truly unique experience.

In this episode, we sit down with President & CEO Troy Thrash as he takes us on a behind-the-scenes tour of the museum and shares the vision behind its transformation from a small collection of aircraft into a world-class aviation destination.

From the moment you enter the “cloud tunnel,” you are immersed in over 100 aircraft and spacecraft, interactive flight experiences, and one of the most impressive aviation environments ever created. Highlights include the legendary Lockheed SR-71B Blackbird, hands-on STEM exhibits, and a massive indoor aviation mural that brings the history of flight to life.

This episode also sets the stage for the deeper story behind the Air Zoo’s restoration program, including WWII aircraft recovered from the bottom of Lake Michigan and rebuilt through thousands of hours of volunteer craftsmanship—such as the iconic Douglas SBD Dauntless.

Beyond the aircraft, the Air Zoo is also a center for education and inspiration, with STEM programs designed to engage students, spark curiosity, and introduce future generations to careers in aviation, engineering, and science.

The museum’s evolution, aircraft collection, and educational mission reflect a broader story of growth, innovation, and community impact—making it a standout destination for aviation enthusiasts and families alike.

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✈️ This is more than a museum tour… it’s a story about preserving the past while inspiring the future of flight

In the second half of our conversation with the next generation of aviators at Rocky Mountain Flight School, the story shifts from inspiration… to reality.

What does it actually take to build a life in aviation?
From financial pressure to time away from family, these early-career pilots open up about the real challenges behind the dream — and why so many people never make it all the way through.

In this episode, we go deeper into:
The true cost of becoming a pilot — and why many don’t finish
The personal sacrifices required, from long training periods to time away from home
How quickly career plans can change in an unpredictable industry
Why aviation is an endurance race — not a shortcut
The role of mentorship and community in staying on track
How to avoid burnout and keep the passion for flying alive

But through it all, one thing stands out:
The people who make it aren’t just talented — they’re relentless.
This is where ambition meets reality… and where the future of aviation is truly shaped.

In this Old Fly Guy – Virtual Flightline episode, combat aviators Rusty O’Brien and Mace Carpenter break down one of the most complex and dangerous realities in today’s Iran conflict—a war you can’t easily see… and can’t easily win.

Drawing on their experience flying during Operation Desert Storm, they explore how Iran has evolved into a highly capable asymmetric threat. From massive underground tunnel networks—designed to hide and launch missiles from deep within mountains—to the growing use of drones and mobile strike systems, this is a very different fight than the one they experienced decades ago.

At the center of the conversation is the Strait of Hormuz, a narrow waterway responsible for a significant portion of the world’s oil supply. The question isn’t just whether it can be defended—it’s whether disruption there could dictate the outcome of the entire conflict.

Rusty and Mace also dive into the reality of modern warfare:

Why bunker-busting weapons may not be enough
How low-cost drones are changing the economics of war
The growing influence of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps
And why even partial missile capability still poses a serious threat

This isn’t theory—it’s perspective from those who’ve flown combat missions in the same region. If you want to understand what makes this conflict different—and why it’s so difficult—this conversation delivers insights you won’t hear anywhere else.

In Part 1 of our Rocky Mountain Flight School series, we turn from experience to the next generation of aviators — but this is only the beginning of their story.

In this first half, we sit down with three early-career pilots whose paths into aviation couldn’t be more different:

A childhood dream sparked by the Blue Angels
A bold career change at 30
A multi-career entrepreneur discovering aviation through business

At Rocky Mountain Flight School, they’ve all found something in common:
Passion, persistence, and a commitment to helping others succeed.
But this isn’t just a story about getting started.

In this first half, we explore:
How people really find their way into aviation
The financial and personal sacrifices behind the dream
Why flight instructors become mentors, motivators… and sometimes therapists
The reality of starting and stopping due to cost
What it takes to push through when things get hard

What emerges is a powerful truth:

There’s no single path into aviation — only the willingness to keep going.

And this is just the beginning.

👉 In Part 2 (second half), we go deeper into:

Career realities (airlines, 135, business aviation)
Burnout, balance, and long-term sustainability
What the future of aviation really looks like from their perspective

In this episode of Old Fly Guy Network, we reconnect with seasoned flight instructor and mentor Matt Beyer at Rocky Mountain Flight School to explore a side of aviation that often gets overlooked — the power of mentorship, community, and the journey beyond the airlines.

Matt shares how major life transitions — from becoming an empty nester to starting a new chapter — have reshaped his perspective on aviation and life. What emerges is a powerful reminder that aviation isn’t just a career path… it’s a lifelong pursuit shaped by passion, curiosity, and connection.

We dive into:
Why mentorship is at the heart of aviation
The reality that not every pilot is headed to the airlines
How discovery flights spark lifelong journeys
The importance of community and continuous learning
How Rocky Mountain Flight School is building a culture of safety and belonging
Matt’s vision for bridging the gap between pilots, flight schools, and the FAA

This episode sets the stage for Part 2, where we sit down with the next generation of aviators to hear how their vision of the future compares.
Because aviation isn’t just about where you’re going… it’s about who helps you get there

In this Old Fly Guy Episode – Virtual Flightline episode, F-111 combat veterans Rusty O’Brien and Mace Carpenter bring decades of real-world experience to one of today’s most complex and dangerous conflicts—Iran.
Drawing from their time flying during Operation Desert Shield and Operation Desert Storm, they break down what’s happening today through the lens of those who have planned, flown, and executed combat missions in the same region.
This conversation goes far beyond headlines.
They explore the strategic importance of the Strait of Hormuz, where nearly a fifth of the world’s oil supply moves through a narrow and highly vulnerable corridor—and what happens if that flow is disrupted. They also dive into Iran’s evolving military capabilities, including anti-ship missiles, drones, and the role of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, a uniquely motivated and ideologically driven force.
But one of the most important takeaways is this:
Air power alone is not enough.
From the realities of air-to-air refueling risk to the need for joint operations across air, sea, and intelligence domains, Rusty and Mace explain why modern conflict requires far more than precision strikes. They also reflect on the challenges of defining strategic objectives, communicating intent, and managing global perception in a conflict that could have far-reaching economic and geopolitical consequences.
If you want a clear, experienced-based perspective on what’s happening—and what it really means—this is a conversation you don’t want to miss

In Part B of this two-part Old Fly Guy episode, the conversation with F-111F aviators Rusty O’Brien and Mace Carpenter moves from preparation to execution—focusing squarely on Desert Storm and how the F-111F delivered decisive results. With decades of shared flying experience, Rusty and Mace take viewers inside the real-world tactics, logistics, and mission planning that made the F-111F the most effective strike aircraft of the conflict.

This episode explores innovative techniques like radar ducting, precision strike tactics using laser-guided munitions, and the behind-the-scenes logistical efforts that kept the jet flying night after night. Rusty and Mace share personal stories from training missions and combat sorties, highlighting how crew cohesion, trust, and familiarity were just as important as technology. Often overshadowed by air-to-air fighters, the F-111F’s Desert Storm record speaks for itself—and Part B ensures its mission, impact, and legacy are finally given the attention they deserve.

In Part A of this two-part Old Fly Guy episode, we return to the cockpit with F-111F aviators Rusty O’Brien and Mace Carpenter to focus on why the F-111F was so critical during Desert Storm. With more than 60 years of combined military service, Rusty and Mace take us inside the mission planning, readiness, and strategic role the F-111 carried into the Gulf War—building on its Cold War roots as a nuclear deterrent and evolving into one of the most effective precision strike platforms of the conflict.

This first half explores the foundation: NATO nuclear alert missions, the intense preparation required to maintain constant readiness, and how those disciplines translated directly into Desert Storm success. Rusty and Mace explain how technology, crew coordination, logistics, and trust in the aircraft allowed the F-111F to deliver devastatingly effective strikes with fewer sorties and reduced risk. Part A sets the stage for Part B, where we’ll dive deeper into combat execution, emergency scenarios, and personal moments that defined the mission and the legacy of the F-111F

The F-111F Aardvark was built for missions few aircraft could survive—and even fewer could execute with precision. In this first episode of a new Old Fly Guy series, we sit down with two of the men who flew it into history. Rusty O’Brien (27 years active duty) and Mace Carpenter (34 years of service) share what it was really like to fly the F-111F during Desert Shield, Desert Storm, and other global operations where success depended on speed, teamwork, and trust in the jet.

This conversation focuses on the aircraft itself—what made the F-111F so unique, why it was chosen for deep strike missions, and how terrain-following radar, variable-sweep wings, and precision weapons turned it into a night-fighting force multiplier. Rusty and Mace explain how crew coordination between pilot and WSO was essential, how missions were planned and flown at low altitude and high speed, and why the F-111F proved its value when it mattered most. This episode sets the stage for a broader series exploring the missions, people, and legacy of one of the most consequential strike aircraft in aviation history—told by those who were there.

Top 5 Takeaways from This Episode

The F-111F Was Purpose-Built for Missions Others Couldn’t Fly
This episode explains why the F-111F wasn’t just another fighter or bomber—it was a precision strike platform designed to penetrate defended airspace at low altitude, high speed, and in all weather, long before stealth became the norm.

Technology Alone Wasn’t Enough—Crew Coordination Made It Work
Flying the F-111F required absolute trust between pilot and weapons systems officer. Viewers gain insight into how teamwork, communication, and shared responsibility were just as critical as the aircraft’s advanced systems.

Terrain-Following Radar Changed the Rules of Air Combat
The ability to fly low and fast, day or night, redefined how deep-strike missions were executed. Rusty and Mace describe what it was like to rely on the jet’s systems in environments where there was no margin for error.

Desert Storm Validated the F-111F’s Design and Doctrine
Precision bombing during Desert Storm proved the effectiveness of the F-111F and helped shape modern strike warfare. This episode connects the aircraft’s performance directly to broader changes in how airpower is employed today.

The F-111F Legacy Is About People as Much as the Aircraft
Beyond the jet itself, this conversation highlights the culture, camaraderie, and responsibility carried by the crews and support teams. The episode preserves lessons and experiences that still resonate with today’s aviators and aviation enthusiasts.

Tucked along the runway in North Hampton, New Hampshire, the Airfield Cafe is more than a place to eat — it’s a story of family, perseverance, and community that spans generations.

In this Old Fly Guy Network episode, we sit down with Scott Aversano and his children Ashley and Tyler to explore how the Airfield Cafe, first opened in 1996, became a cornerstone of the local aviation community. Scott shares the pivotal role played by his father, “Pappa Joe,” whose leap of faith into the airport restaurant business helped get everything started. After a previous family venture was impacted by an economic downturn, an unexpected opportunity — and encouragement from the airport community — led Pappa Joe to take over a small breakfast-and-lunch café at the airfield, planting the seeds for what would become a beloved institution.

Through hard work and consistency, the family transformed the café from a modest 36-seat diner into a thriving operation employing nearly 70 people, all while staying true to its roots. The Airfield Cafe became a place where pilots, airport neighbors, and local families naturally came together — a bridge between aviation and community life.

Scott also reflects on one of the greatest rewards of the journey: working side-by-side with his children. Ashley and Tyler grew up in the café, learning responsibility early and developing a shared passion for the business. Today, Ashley brings her business education and leadership vision, while Tyler’s engineering mindset fuels creative ideas like a conveyor-belt display for model airplanes. For Scott, watching his children grow — both personally and professionally — while helping shape the café’s future is as meaningful as the business success itself.

This episode is a heartfelt look at legacy, family pride, innovation, and the unique role airport cafés play in keeping aviation culture alive. It’s a reminder that sometimes the most important things at an airfield aren’t just the airplanes — but the people who gather around the table.

✈️☕ Visit the Airfield Cafe, meet the family, and experience a place where generations and aviation stories continue to take flight.

The Full AIRFIELD CAFE Episode!  https://youtu.be/KPNgvbGxGQA