The Ringer’s Robert Mays and Kevin Clark recap Week 5, including how the Jaguars have built a new model for success in the NFL (04:30), why Big Ben might be afraid to play football every Sunday (11:30), and which teams are actually the best in the NFC (18:30). Then, Danny Kelly joins the show to explain why the Texans' defensive injuries will lead to more exciting performances from Deshaun Watson (39:00), and how Alex Smith has become the fourth-best quarterback in the league (41:30). Finally, Robert and Kevin field some interesting listener questions from Twitter (47:00), and the guys offer their lasting impressions, including why it’s a bad idea to legislate politics out of the NFL right now (55:30).

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