The Out of Practice Podcast

By darrenspain

Helping soon-to-qualify and newly qualified ACA accountants navigate life and careers out of practice... more

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The Out of Practice Podcast episodes:

July 16, 2025 #4 Straight from Practice to Commercial Finance with Paul Bishop
🎙️ “Back yourself. You can do it. Don’t doubt yourself because it’s not as hard as you think.”
In this episode, Paul Bishop shares how he went from auditing financial services during the 2008 crash to landing roles at British Airways, LabTech, and Telereal Trillium.
We discuss:
✅ Making the leap from audit to industry
✅ The skills that set newly qualified ACAs apart
✅ How to stand out in interviews and your first role
✅ Building a career in FP&A and finance business partnering
If you’re a newly qualified ACA (or soon-to-qualify), this episode is packed with practical insights, honest reflections, and career advice to help you navigate life beyond practice.
🎧 Listen now to hear how Paul navigated his journey and why he believes “the ACA gives you skills you can apply anywhere.”
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1h 20min
June 16, 2025 #3 Owning Your Career After Audit – Claire Delicata on Building a Life in Industry
🎙️ ABOUT THIS EPISODE
In this episode of The Out of Practice Podcast, I sit down with Claire Delicata, a seasoned CFO and interim finance leader who's worked with iconic brands like Vodafone, Costa Coffee, British Gas, Farfetch, Superdry, and Legal & General.
Claire shares how she built an exceptional career across retail, tech, utilities, and telecoms, her unexpected journey into interim leadership, and what every newly qualified ACA should know before making their first move into industry.
🧠 WHAT YOU'LL LEARN
✅ The power of “career ownership” – and how not to drift after qualifying
✅ How to choose the right industry and company size early in your career
✅ What makes a CV stand out to a senior hiring manager
✅ Claire’s honest take on interim vs. permanent roles
✅ How to break into FP&A (and what to start learning now)
✅ Why AI should be your tool — not your threat
✅ The #1 underrated skill in finance (hint: it’s not Excel)
🕒 TIMESTAMPS
00:00 – Intro & Claire’s journey into audit
04:00 – Lessons learned at EY and why secondments matter
10:00 – Moving into industry (Vodafone, SuperSnaps & more)
13:00 – Favourite industries and how to break into new sectors
17:30 – Picking a career path with intention
22:00 – How Claire accidentally became an interim leader
28:00 – Interim vs. permanent: pros, cons, and perceptions
33:00 – Leadership, mindset & what changes as you move up
35:00 – How to break into FP&A from audit
37:00 – Career advice for newly qualified accountants
41:00 – What Claire looks for when hiring
43:30 – Thoughts on AI and the future of finance
45:30 – Quick-fire round & closing reflections
🔗 RESOURCES & LINKS
• Get your free CV template: www.onesevenpartners.co.uk/freecvtemplate
• Are you soon-to-qualify or recently qualified ACA, looking to make a move out of practice? Then let's connect on LinkedIn, drop me a message and let's see how I can help!
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50min
June 16, 2025 #2 From practice to Finance Director via Transaction Services (with Tom Williams)
🎙️ ABOUT THIS EPISODE
In this episode of The Out of Practice Podcast, host Darren Spain speaks with Tom Williams, Group Finance Director at Trinova Real Estate and former Grant Thornton ACA, about career pivots, long-term thinking, and the truth about leaving audit.
Tom shares why he turned down the traditional partner track and how he navigated a career across transaction services, real estate, and eventually the FD seat. For newly qualified ACAs asking “What’s next after audit?”, this episode delivers clarity, honesty, and direction.
🧠 WHAT YOU'LL LEARN
✅ Why audit experience is valuable - but not always enough
✅ What makes someone stand out post-ACA
✅ The real differences between audit and industry
✅ How to think long-term about your career (even early on)
✅ The commercial skills every ACA should start building now
✅ Tom’s take on job-hopping, recruiters, and learning through failure

🕒 TIMESTAMPS

00:00 – Intro: From audit to FD
02:00 – Why Tom chose the ACA and how it all started
05:45 – Why he left audit (and why he didn’t want to become a partner)
08:20 – Making the move into Transaction Services
12:30 – What audit doesn’t teach you about business
15:10 – Life in industry vs. practice
19:00 – How to build commercial awareness as a newly qualified
22:00 – Choosing long-term goals vs. reacting to short-term pressure
26:15 – Common mistakes newly qualifieds make when job hunting
30:20 – What makes a standout CV and candidate
34:00 – The importance of being intentional and learning fast
38:00 – Final advice for ACAs planning their first move out of practice

🔗 RESOURCES & LINKS

• Download the Free CV Template – www.onesevenpartners.co.uk/freecvtemplate
• Follow Darren Spain on LinkedIn – @DarrenSpain
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44min
June 16, 2025 #1 From Deloitte to Environmental Impact - Alicia Gibson's ACA journey with purpose
🎙️ ABOUT THIS EPISODE

In this episode of The Out of Practice Podcast, host Darren Spain sits down with Alicia Gibson, Director at Finance Earth, an impact investment advisory firm tackling environmental challenges through finance.

Alicia shares her inspiring career journey - from auditing dog toy companies at Deloitte to becoming a key voice in the sustainability and finance space. With four promotions in five years, she opens up about how she carved her own path, overcame imposter syndrome, and found purpose-driven work beyond the traditional ACA route.

Whether you’re newly qualified or still in audit wondering what’s next, this episode is packed with insight, honesty, and practical career advice.

🧠 WHAT YOU'LL LEARN

✅ Why audit is a great foundation - but not the destination
✅ How to explore non-traditional career paths as an ACA
✅ The mindset shift needed to succeed outside of audit
✅ Practical tips to stand out on your CV
✅ How to thrive in your first 90 days post-practice
✅ What it really takes to grow quickly in a new industry
✅ Why making impact doesn’t mean taking a step back

🕒 TIMESTAMPS

00:00 – Intro & Alicia’s ACA origin story
03:30 – What she took from audit that still serves her today
04:30 – Auditing Winter Wonderland & dog toys at Deloitte
07:30 – The worst audit memory (hello, Domino’s in Kent)
08:20 – Why audit can still be a great place to start
09:40 – Making the leap: how Alicia joined Finance Earth
11:20 – Finding her role through Escape the City
12:10 – Interest in sustainability and impact finance
13:00 – How she made her CV stand out
15:00 – Internal moves vs. jumping ship – what she learned
16:00 – The mindset shift moving from audit to consultancy
17:30 – Overcoming imposter syndrome in a new industry
20:00 – The audit skills that matter most post-practice
21:45 – How to succeed in your first 90 days out of audit
24:00 – Mentorship, giving back, and building community
30:40 – How she secured 4 promotions in 5 years
32:00 – Why she took a “demotion” to find the right long-term path
33:20 – Final words of advice for newly qualified accountants

🔗 RESOURCES & LINKS •
Download your free CV template: www.onesevenpartners.co.uk/freecvtemplate
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35min

FAQs about The Out of Practice Podcast:

How many episodes does The Out of Practice Podcast have?

The podcast currently has 4 episodes available.