A guard of honour for Stuart Broad (and a six) but that was the only joy for England on a frustrating day with rain bring play to an end mid afternoon.

Dan is (surprisingly) joined by Finny as they mull over what did happen at the Oval on day 4 of the Fifth Ashes Test.

England 283 (Brook 85, Duckett 41, Starc 4-82) & 395 (Root 91, Bairstow 78, Starc 4-94)

Australia 295 (Smith 71, Woakes 3-61) & 135-0 (Khawaja 69*, Warner 58*)

Australia need another 249 runs, England need 10 wickets

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