In this episode of The Owners Club Podcast, host Sean Ziari connects with Brian McMullen, a former Allstate Insurance agent turned real estate funder who's built his business on one simple principle: relationships over deals. After 27 years in insurance where he "never sold a policy, just built relationships," Brian now manages approximately $3.5 million in funding for real estate projects across multiple states but finds himself constantly turning down opportunities because he's doing everything himself. 

Brian discusses the challenges of scaling from solopreneur to team leader while maintaining the customer service mindset that defined his insurance career. This vulnerable conversation explores the real cost of living in fear, the power of follow-up, and why taking care of the $20,000 investor might be more valuable than chasing whales.

CONNECT WITH BRIAN MCMULLEN

📞 Phone: 618-619-8044

📧 Email: [Contact through social media]

📱 Instagram: @simplelifeinvesting

🌐 Website: Simple Life Investing

Connect with Sean Ziari

🌐 Website: www.seanziari.com

📱 Instagram: @seanziari

💼 LinkedIn: Sean Ziari

Want to invest in real estate without the rehab or the headache?

At Ziari Capital, we help you build wealth without the day-to-day grind:

✔ Borrow, lend, or invest with smarter real estate strategies

✔ Diversify your income and build your legacy

👉 Visit: ziaricapital.com

In this inspiring episode of The Owners Club Podcast, host Sean Ziari sits down with James Pecora, a 58-year-old Berkeley-trained drummer turned computer programmer, shares how he's breaking free from 20 years of corporate "golden handcuffs" to build his Mount Everest: 20 rental doors in each of 20 cities from Lansing, Michigan to Pensacola, Florida. After his wife Sandy survived a stroke 14 years ago, James had settled into caretaker mode until the first SquadUp in 2022 reignited his entrepreneurial fire. Now he's executing his vision to use rental property cash flow to fund affordable assisted living centers in each market - a mission sparked by watching his friend struggle in a non-ADA compliant home with no affordable options. James discusses breaking 40 years of musician and programmer habits (practice 1000 times vs. fail forward), his current pipeline of fix & flips and land contracts liquidating in August, and why the Owners Club calendar series finally straightened him out from flying by the seat of his pants.

20 Target Cities (I-65/I-69 Corridor):Lansing, MI • Jackson, MI • Fort Wayne, IN • Indianapolis, IN • Bloomington, IN • Louisville, KY • Bowling Green, KY • Nashville, TN • (+ 12 more to Pensacola, FL)

Looking For: Private money lenders/partners, RV parks, mobile home parks, multifamily dealsAvailable: ~$100k liquidity in August 2025

CONNECT WITH JAMES PECORA

📞 Phone: 615-293-3786 (615-293-DRUM)

📧 Email: [email protected]

▶️ YouTube: @JamesGetsReal

📱 Social Media: @james_gets_real IG  @james_gets_real FB 

🏠  Buy Box: JamesBuyBox.com

Connect with Sean Ziari
🌐 Website: ⁠www.seanziari.com⁠

📱 Instagram: ⁠@seanziari⁠

💼 LinkedIn:⁠ Sean Ziari⁠

In this inspiring episode of the Owners Club Podcast: I, Sean Ziari of Ziari Capital sits down with Susan McGhee, a Charleston-based real estate investor who's proving it's never too late to build your empire. Susan shares her remarkable journey from serving as Director of Operations at a real estate brokerage for 12 years to launching a creative real estate investing career in her early 60s alongside her husband John.Their story is a testament to the power of mindset, community, and lifelong learning. Whether you’re 30 or 70, this episode will remind you that it’s never too late to rewrite your story, take action, and pursue financial freedom through real estate.Connect with Susan McGhee 🌐 Website: https://redmaplemgt.com/ 📱 Instagram: @susanmcghee_sc 💼 Facebook: Susan Belice McGhee Connect with Sean Ziari🌐 Website: www.seanziari.com📱 Instagram: @seanziari💼 LinkedIn: Sean ZiariWant to invest in real estate without the rehab or the headache?At Ziari Capital, we help you build wealth without the day-to-day grind: ✔ Borrow, lend, or invest with smarter real estate strategies✔ Diversify your income and build your legacywww.ziaricapital.comDon’t miss the next episode of The Owners Club Podcast where we feature real investors, real stories, and real results. 📩 Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite platform. ⭐ Leave a 5-star review to help more investors find the show!

In this episode with Susan Casper, dentist-turned-real estate investor, as she shares her journey from her first SubTo deal to building a growing portfolio of Co-living properties, modular developments, and a 13-bed mountain bed and breakfast.
Susan opens up about the importance of relationships, networking through Subto, Gator, and Owners Club, and how leveraging mentorship and partnerships has accelerated her success. She also shares insights on working with her husband, tackling new business ventures, and scaling both her investments and leadership skills.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode
People First: Why relationships drive long-term real estate success.
Creative Real Estate Deals: From Co-living to modular developments and a bed and breakfast.
Community Power: Leveraging the Owners Club and Sub2 to find partners, mentors, and deal opportunities.
Leadership & Mindset: How Susan’s “Mount Everest” vision inspires growth for herself and others.
Connect with Susan Casper
📧 Email: [email protected]
📱 Text: 303-253-1237
🌐 www.creativepropertycapital.com
Want to invest in real estate without the rehab or the headache?
At Ziari Capital, we help you build wealth without the day-to-day grind:
✔ Borrow, lend, or invest with smarter real estate strategies
✔ Diversify your income and build your legacy
📞 Contact us at +1-206-822-0250 or schedule a call here www.ziaricapital.com

In this episode, I sat down with Jamie Davis, attorney, entrepreneur, and real estate investor, as she shares her remarkable journey from scaling a vending business to pursuing ownership of 5,000 apartments. After surviving a life-threatening battle with COVID-19, Jamie shifted her focus from corporate America to building generational impact through real estate.

Jamie opens up about her path into the Owners Club, her current projects in Kansas City, Northwest Indiana, and Detroit, and why she’s passionate about partnerships, energy, and teaching others how to invest smarter.

Whether you’re interested in small apartment complexes, mobile home parks, or learning how to structure joint venture agreements, this conversation is full of insights and inspiration.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode

• Jamie’s Backstory – From law school and corporate leadership at Walmart/AMC Theatres to scaling and selling a vending business.
  

• Her Real Estate Focus – Buying small apartments and mobile home parks in the Midwest, including a current deal with KC Savage.
  

• Legal Expertise – Why she’s planning to teach classes on joint venture agreements and promissory notes to help investors mitigate risk.
  

• Partnership Principles – The role of energy, authenticity, and alignment in building lasting business collaborations.
  

• Life After COVID-19 – How a near-death experience shifted her perspective and gave her a mission to help others.
  

• Community Impact – Plans to host a Gary, Indiana real estate workshop to bring together contractors, investors, and residents.
  

• Future Goals – Building 5,000 apartments while inspiring the next generation to think bigger.
  

Connect with Jamie Davis

🌐 Website: Phoenix Equity Investment Group

📧 Email: [email protected]

📱 Phone: 817-308-5091

👉 If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend who’s ready to scale in real estate.

What if you could apply Subto strategies not just to houses but to cars, boats, and even airplanes?
In this episode of the Owners Club Podcast, I sat down with Mike Davis, the guy who took creative finance beyond real estate and built a business around helping people who are “upside down” on their vehicles.
You’ll hear:
How Mike walked away from corporate sales and built his first deal through YouTube University.
The mindset shift that turned him from “credit poor, cash-strapped” to closing creative deals consistently.
How Subto works for cars (explained in plain English, even if you’ve never heard of creative finance).
The real problem in the car market and how Mike is solving it nationwide.
Why being in the right rooms (like Subto + Owners Club) changed everything for his growth.
Mike’s story is raw, practical, and full of lessons about taking action, thinking creatively, and building opportunities where most people see roadblocks.
Resources & Connect with Mike:
Instagram: @mikewillcloseit
Free Facebook Group: facebook.com/groups/topmethod 
Training & Coaching: jointopmethod.com
Transaction Coordination: topwheels.io

If you’ve ever wondered, “Can I really Subto a car?” you’ll want to listen to this one start to finish.
At Owners Club, we guide investors and entrepreneurs to design lives filled with freedom, impact, and true meaning.
✔ Actionable real estate strategies that work
✔ A community built on values and leadership
✔ Guidance to help you crush your biggest business and personal goals

Want to invest in real estate without the rehab or the headache?At Ziari Capital, we help you build wealth without the day-to-day grind:✔ Borrow, lend, or invest with smarter real estate strategies✔ Diversify your income and build your legacy

📞 Contact us at +1-206-822-0250 or schedule a call here to learn more.

In this Episode of the Owners Club Podcast, I sit down with Jordan Reyes, a California native turned Montana-based real estate investor, whose journey shows the power of saying yes to opportunities. Jordan’s path took him from drilling wells and farming almonds to launching an ag-tech company and ultimately into creative real estate, new construction, and RV parks.

Jordan shares how a chance encounter with Pace Morby at a meetup in Bozeman led to a partnership that changed the course of his career. From negotiating seller-financed RV park deals to buying businesses with zero money down, Jordan’s story is packed with lessons on relationships, collaboration, and taking action before you’re ready.

• How Jordan pivoted from agriculture and corporate life into real estate investing.

• Why saying yes to opportunities opened doors he never expected.

• The story of meeting Pace Morby and landing his first RV park deal.

• Why collaboration over competition is Jordan’s biggest takeaway from SubTo and Owners Club.

• How he structures RV park deals creatively (low down payments, seller finance, private money).

• Why relationships and transparency with sellers matter more than transactions.

• The value of community, mentorship, and surrounding yourself with the right people.

  
  

  Resources & Mentions

• SubTo Community – Pace Morby

• Creative Finance with Pace Morby (YouTube)

• RV Park Investing Insights

  
  

  Connect with Jordan Reyes

• Instagram: @jordanreyes 

• Facebook: Jordan Reyes 

• Website: https://jordanreyes.me/

• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@the_jordan_reyes

• Join Jordan in SUBTO: Join here

  
  

  🎧 Recommended for:

•Aspiring entrepreneurs ready to take imperfect action

• Investors curious about RV parks and creative finance

• Business owners who value partnership and people over profit

• Anyone who believes impact > income

Want to build wealth and live with intention?

At Ziari Capital, we help you build wealth without the day-to-day grind:

✔ Borrow, lend, or invest with smarter real estate strategies

✔ Diversify your income and build your legacy

📞 Contact us at +1-206-822-0250 or www.ziaricapital.com

In this episode of the Owners Club Podcast, I sit down with Karl—a resilient entrepreneur who proves that setbacks can become your setup for success.

Karl takes us back to his humble beginnings in Minnesota, where family values and early failures shaped his drive. He opens up about his early days launching a smoothie business, facing financial devastation, and finding himself at a personal low point. But instead of quitting, Karl used failure as fuel developing grit through network marketing, leadership coaching, and eventually making his way into real estate investing.

Today, Karl is not just a successful investor. He’s a wealth strategist, a visionary, and the co-founder of Lake Academy, a private school reimagining education through the lens of entrepreneurship and purpose.

Key takeaways:

✅ Rock bottom can be the foundation for your greatest growth

✅ Network marketing sharpened Karl’s leadership + people skills

✅ Wealth isn’t just what you earn… it’s how you manage, protect, and deploy it

✅ Lake Academy is about values-driven education and future-focused learning

✅ Partnerships and relationships are the real long game in business

✅ Money should always be active, working, and aligned with your mission

Recommended for:

Entrepreneurs looking for a comeback story

Real estate investors who want to diversify with purpose

Parents who are rethinking education

Anyone feeling stuck and ready to rebuild

Connect with Karl:

Facebook - www.facebook.com/karllarsen21

Instagram - www.instagram.com/karlglarsen/

Lake Academy - www.lakeacademy.school

Website - www.karlglarsen.com

Want to invest in real estate without the rehab or the headache?

At Ziari Capital, we help you build wealth without the day-to-day grind:

✔ Borrow, lend, or invest with smarter real estate strategies

✔ Diversify your income and build your legacy

📞 Contact us at +1-206-822-0250 or www.ziaricapital.com

In this Episode of the Owners Club Podcast, we’re joined by Amy from Plymouth, Michigan—an incredible entrepreneur whose journey took her from CPA and recruiter to full-time real estate investor and social entrepreneur.

Amy opens up about growing up in Michigan, overcoming family challenges, and how those early experiences shaped her mission to provide safe housing for survivors of domestic violence and human trafficking.

We also explore her bold leap from the corporate world into vacation rentals, house flipping, and business acquisitions and how joining the Owners Club connected her with game-changing partners like Carlos Vasquez, Angel Lastro, Nayeli Davis, and Joshua Sun.

Key takeaways:
✅ Growing up in a single-parent household and turning hardship into fuel for impact✅ Quitting a steady corporate career during COVID to pursue real estate full-time✅ Building partnerships that align business with purpose✅ Setting a “Mount Everest goal”: 5,000 housing units for survivors within five years✅ Using investing to solve real problems, not just chase profit✅ Exploring laundromats, car washes, and property management to diversify income

Amy’s story is proof that entrepreneurship isn’t just about money… It's about legacy, community, and choosing to make a difference.

Recommended for:
✅ Aspiring real estate investors✅ Entrepreneurs who want to combine profit with purpose✅ Anyone who believes business can (and should) create social good
Amy's Socials:
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/amyrende 
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/amy.rende.1
Website - https://amyrende.com 

📢 Owners Club Members — Let’s Hear YOUR Story

We’ve been having some incredible conversations on the Owners Club Podcast lately… talking about real investments, real strategies, and real results. But here’s the thing… your voice needs to be part of it.

If you’re part of the OC and haven’t signed up yet, now’s your chance. Let’s get you on the mic to share your journey, your wins, your lessons because the rest of us can learn from it.

👉 Pick your time here: https://calendly.com/sean_ziari/owners-club-podcast 

Let’s keep building what matters 

The kind of life you’d be proud to pass on.— Sean