The Packology Podcast

Exploring Sustainable Packaging Materials with Tim Notter

In this episode of The Packology Podcast, host Brandon Frank sits down with Tim Notter, VP of Materials and Business Development at Innovative Plastics, to explore the future of sustainable packaging materials. Tim brings decades of industry experience to the conversation, diving deep into cutting-edge materials like eco-shell, inno-pulp, poly-earth-lean, PHA, and PLA that are reshaping the packaging landscape.

From bio-based calcium carbonate derived from eggshells to compostable resins and landfill-degradable polyethylene, Tim explains how these innovative materials are solving real-world packaging challenges. He also reveals the honest truth about cost barriers, the impact of Extended Producer Responsibility (EPR) legislation, and what it will take for these materials to achieve mainstream adoption in the next 5-10 years.

In this episode, we'll talk about:

• Why eco-shell (eggshell-derived bio calcium carbonate) can reduce plastic usage by 30-50% while maintaining recyclability
• How inno-pulp, a wood pulp and PLA blend, offers BPI-certified compostable packaging solutions
• The differences between PHA and PLA bioplastics and their respective market readiness
• Why cost remains the #1 barrier to adoption—with sustainable materials running 3-4x more expensive than conventional options
• How EPR legislation in five states (California, Oregon, Minnesota, Maryland, and Maine) could change the economics of sustainable packaging
• The surprising benefits of adding calcium carbonate to packaging: heat deflection, UV protection, and improved stiffness
• Poly-earth-lean's unique position as a recyclable, bio-based, landfill-degradable polyethylene
• Tim's roadmap for brands wanting to transition to sustainable packaging solutions
• Why PLA has a stronger near-term future than PHA due to existing infrastructure and production capacity

Tim Notter is the VP of Materials and Business Development for Innovative Plastics, a custom thermoformer with locations in New York, Nashville, and Phoenix. With decades of experience in the packaging industry, Tim specializes in sourcing and commercializing new sustainable materials, educating customers on recyclable and compostable options, and helping brands navigate the evolving landscape of EPR legislation and sustainable packaging requirements.

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In this episode of The Pathology Podcast, host Brandon Frank sits down with Connie Nguyen, Head of Retail Beauty at Maxim, to uncover how cutting-edge technologies like RFID, NFC, and QR codes are transforming the beauty industry. Connie draws on her decades of experience across apparel, footwear, and now beauty to explain how these “digital triggers” enhance supply chain visibility, product authentication, sustainability, and consumer engagement. She also reveals why the beauty sector is still years behind other industries, what brands must do to future-proof packaging, and how smart technology can drive loyalty, transparency, and circularity in retail.

In this episode, we’ll talk about:

• Why the beauty industry lags 5–10 years behind in digital technology adoption.
• How RFID enables real-time visibility across the supply chain.
• Why NFC offers stronger product authentication and consumer engagement.
• How QR and smart packaging can power recycling education and sustainability goals The cost realities of implementing RFID, NFC, and QR  and when brands should invest.
• How these digital tools create new data, revenue streams, and brand storytelling opportunities.
•  How connected packaging can close the loop between manufacturing, retail, and end-of-life recycling.

Connie Nguyen is a seasoned Strategic Business Development professional with over a decade of experience driving growth and unlocking new market opportunities. She specializes in identifying trends, building strategic partnerships, and developing innovative, results-driven strategies. With a B.S. in Managerial Economics from UC Davis and certification in Challenger Fundamentals, Connie combines analytical thinking with collaborative leadership to lead global teams and deliver sustainable business success.

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In this episode of the Pathology podcast, host Brandon Frank welcomes Natalie Betts, a partnership builder, strategist, and circular economy champion from the Recycled Materials Association (RMA). They engage in a compelling conversation about sustainability in packaging, discussing Betts' unique journey into recycling through economic development in Austin, Texas. Betts provides insights into recycling processes at Materials Recovery Facilities (MRFs), the complexities of the recycling industry, and the importance of using recycled materials to reduce environmental impact. She also shares practical advice for consumers on recycling common household items and highlights tools developed by RMA to assist packaging designers in creating recyclable materials. The discussion extends to broader industry topics including global trade in recycled commodities, policy shifts, and collaborative efforts within the US Plastics Pact to make plastics packaging circular. 

In this episode, we’ll talk about: 

• Natalie's Journey into Recycling
• Understanding Recycling Facilities
• Recycled Materials Association Overview
• Challenges and Innovations in Recycling
• Practical Recycling Tips
• Paper Packaging and Recycling Readiness Tool
• Global Trade and Recycling
• Final Thoughts and Recommendations

Natalie Betts is a skilled strategic planner, writer, and partnership builder. 10+ years of experience working at the intersection of government & private industry, and subject matter expertise in circular economy, recycling & economic development. Strong program and project management professional with a Master of Public Affairs focused in Policy Analysis; Sustainable Development from Indiana University Bloomington and a Certified Economic Developer (CEcD) credential from the International Economic Development Council.

 
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In this episode, Brandon Frank and Ben Gold discuss the impact of AI across various industries and its potential to reshape business practices. They explore the challenges and opportunities presented by AI, from its transformative power to its potential pitfalls.

Key Discussion Points:

• ​AI Impact on Supply Chains: The conversation begins with a discussion on how AI is helping businesses navigate supply chain disruptions, particularly in the packaging industry.   
• ​​AI as a Consultant's Tool: Ben highlights the effectiveness of AI tools like ChatGPT Deep Research in analyzing complex data, using the example of evaluating proposals from a client's strategy session.   
• ​​The AI-Driven Transformation: The discussion covers the potential for AI to drive significant change in businesses, including automating processes and streamlining operations.   
• ​​The Future of the Workforce: Ben and Brandon delve into the implications of AI for the workforce, discussing the need for adaptation and the potential for job displacement.   
• ​​AI Literacy and Adoption: The importance of AI literacy within organizations is emphasized, along with strategies for integrating AI tools into business processes.​•​LinkedIn Automation Strategies: Ben shares his experiences with using AI to enhance his LinkedIn strategy, including content creation, lead generation, and engagement. 

About Ben Gold:

Ben Gold is an AI strategist and consultant with over 20 years of experience in technology and sales. He specializes in helping organizations adopt AI to improve efficiency, quality, and client engagement. Ben is passionate about making AI accessible and practical for businesses of all sizes.

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Website: bengoldai.com
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Email: [email protected]

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In this episode, Brandon Frank and Ben Gold reconnect to discuss the rapid advancements and transformative impact of AI on business and society. Ben provides an update on his recent work with AI, including developing an AI CRM and consulting with various companies. The conversation covers the impact of AI on the workforce, the pace of AI development, and potential dangers, such as AI character apps. 

In this episode, we’ll talk about: 

• The AI Arms Race: The rapid development of AI and the potential dangers of releasing models without proper safeguards.
• The Impact of AI on the Workforce: Ben and Brandon discuss how AI is changing job roles and the importance of adapting to new technologies.
• Practical Applications of AI in Business: Using AI tools to improve efficiency, automate tasks, and enhance research capabilities.
• The Dark Side of AI Character Apps: Ben warns about the potential dangers of AI character apps, which are designed to be manipulative and can form unhealthy emotional bonds with users.
• Analyzing Transcripts with AI: Ben provides guidance on using Claude and ChatGPT to analyze call transcripts, extract key insights, and improve business processes.
• The transformative impact of AI Ben shares how AI has transformed his business, enabling him to provide clients with in-depth analyses and solutions in record time.

 
About Ben Gold:
Ben Gold is an AI strategist and consultant with over 20 years of experience in technology and sales. He specializes in helping organizations adopt AI to improve efficiency, quality, and client engagement. Ben is passionate about making AI accessible and practical for businesses of all sizes.
 
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Find out more about Ben on his website and connect with him on LinkedIn and Email.
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Email: [email protected]
 
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 In this episode of the Packology podcast, host Brandon invites Allison Burdick, a sustainability analyst from the Pet Sustainability Coalition (PSC), to discuss the challenges and innovations in sustainable packaging within the pet industry. They explore the goals and initiatives of PSC, the importance of collaborative efforts, and the complexities of recyclable and compostable packaging. Allison shares insights on PSC’s resources, including their packaging supplier directory and industry-wide pledge for more sustainable packaging by 2025. The episode highlights real-world examples of successful initiatives and discusses future trends and potential solutions for reducing the environmental impact of pet product packaging.  

• Meet Allison Burdick: Sustainability Analyst
• Sustainable Packaging in the Pet Industry
• Challenges and Innovations in Packaging
• PSC's Collaborative Efforts and Tools
• Defining Sustainability and Future Goals
• Consumer Education and Recycling
• PSC's Packaging Pledge and Success Stories
• Membership Benefits and Events
• Choosing the Most Sustainable Packaging
• Flex Forward Program and Chemical Recycling
• Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Allison Burdick is a Sustainability professional helping businesses meet ESG goals through practical, science-driven solutions. With experience across federal, corporate, and non-profit sectors, she thrives in both independent and team settings. A nature lover and problem-solver—she’s always ready to collaborate.

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Website: https://petsustainability.org/

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In this episode, the host Brandon Frank welcomes Moushami P. Joshi, a senior counsel at Hush Blackwell, to discuss the complexities and impacts of tariffs on trade and the US economy. Moushami brings her vast experience in international trade law, shedding light on the technical distinctions between customs duties and tariffs, the significant role tariffs play in current economic policies, and the implications for various industries, particularly packaging. Highlights include a deep dive into the utilization of old statutes like Section 232 and 301 under recent administrations, the consequences of retaliatory tariffs, and the critical considerations for businesses to avoid significant penalties. 

In this episode, we’ll talk about: 

• Introduction
• The Impact of Tariffs on the US Economy
• Understanding Tariffs and Their Implications
• Tariffs on Packaging and Industry Insights
• Current and Future Tariff Policies
• Retaliatory Tariffs and Global Trade Dynamics
• Consequences of Misreporting Tariffs
• Conclusion and Future Discussions

 
Moushami is an experienced international trade attorney with a background spanning India and the U.S. She specializes in tariffs, customs matters, and trade remedies, representing foreign governments, multinational corporations, and the Indian government in WTO litigation, antidumping, and countervailing duty actions. Moushami has practiced in both India and the U.S., with expertise in complex trade issues like Section 301 and 232 tariffs and "Made in U.S.A." rules. Known for her clear communication and problem-solving skills, she currently serves as president of the Association of Women in International Trade (WIIT) and is a respected thought leader in the field.
 

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In this episode, the host Brandon Frank welcomes back Maggie Spicer to discuss California's SB 54, a major piece of Extended Producer Responsibility (EPR) legislation. They explain the intricacies of SB 54, its impact on CPG brands and packaging companies, and the broader implications for the packaging value chain. The conversation covers the basic principles of EPR, the specific obligations for producers, including the financial responsibilities, and the importance of understanding and complying with the new regulation to avoid significant penalties. Maggie also highlights the support available for companies navigating this complex landscape. 

In this episode, we’ll talk about: 

• Introduction to SB 54
• Understanding Extended Producer Responsibility (EPR)
• SB 54: California's Aggressive EPR Program
• Defining Producers Under SB 54
• Responsibilities and Exemptions for Producers
• Financial Obligations and Eco Modulation
• Common Mistakes Brands Make with SB 54
• Understanding EPR Laws and Registration
• Importance of Packaging Specifications
• Navigating State Regulations
• Resources and Support for Brands
• Future of EPR and SB 54
• Federal vs. State EPR Regulations
• Penalties for Non-Compliance

Maggie is the founder of Source Beauty ESG. She combines a background as a supply chain lawyer for global technology companies with experience in skincare product design to help beauty brands and retailers with sustainability-focused compliance, design, and strategy.
 
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In this insightful episode of The Packology Podcast, Brandon Frank sits down with Ian Tappan, an AI business consultant, to explore the game-changing impact of AI on traditional industries, with a focus on the packaging sector. Ian delves into the evolution of AI technologies, the different phases of AI adoption, and how businesses can strategically incorporate AI to boost operations and drive innovation.

In this episode, we’ll talk about:

• Meet Ian Tappan: AI Business Consultant Extraordinaire
• The Evolution of AI in Business
• Navigating the AI Journey: From Cautious Observer to Strategic Pioneer
• Tools and Technologies to Boost AI Integration
• The Future of AI: Betting on the Big Players
• Agents and AGI: The Next Frontier in AI
• Transforming Traditional Industries with AI
• Overcoming Challenges in AI Adoption
• Ian Tappan’s Vision for the AI-Driven Future

Ian Tappan is a seasoned AI leader and the founder of DiscoverFire.ai and Quantum Leap AI, with over 12 years of experience in creating tech solutions. Initially trained as a Mechanical Engineer, Ian transitioned to developing tech systems for Uber before focusing on AI-driven sales and lead generation. He specializes in custom AI software and training, helping businesses leverage AI for growth and innovation. His work at DiscoverFire.ai and Quantum Leap AI has made him a respected figure in the AI community, known for driving strategic advancements and empowering companies to enhance workflows in a competitive market.

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Website: discoverfire.ai 

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In this episode of The Packology Podcast, host Brandon Frank welcomes Kara Duffy, an entrepreneur, business coach, and consultant known for her unique approach to business and life. Kara shares insights into her "Have It All" method, which she uses to coach CEOs toward becoming extraordinary leaders. She also discusses her new program, "A Ridiculous and Extraordinary Life," and explores themes of business leadership, personal development, and finding one's passion.

In this episode, we’ll talk about:

• Kara Duffy, entrepreneur and business coach, joins the Packology podcast to share her unique approach to business success.
• She discusses a powerful method designed to help leaders reach their full potential.
• The conversation focuses on business leadership and strategy.
• With over 20 years of experience in the footwear and apparel industries, Kara now coaches others to develop their businesses.
• Kara talks about aligning business strategies with core values and creating tailored solutions.
• She shares insights on streamlining operations and maximizing efficiency.
• Her "ridiculous and extraordinary life" philosophy encourages entrepreneurs to achieve their goals without compromise.
• The episode also touches on the role of technology and AI in business, while maintaining authentic connections.

Kara Duffy is an entrepreneur, business coach, and consultant with over 20 years of experience launching and scaling brands globally. From her first business at age 9 to advising over 100 companies, she’s driven success in industries like fashion, sports, and food. Kara specializes in product development, strategy, and operations, helping both global brands and startups optimize and grow. She’s also worked with athletes, musicians, and designers to create innovative products and new brands. Now, Kara helps entrepreneurs elevate their businesses, stay true to their mission, and achieve their goals while having fun.

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