In this final episode, Loewenstein examines the fallout of October 7, exploring the devastating aftermath in Gaza, Israel’s live-testing of AI-enabled weapons, and the West’s support of Israel’s military expansion. Featuring eyewitness accounts from Gaza, he asks: what does a post-October 7 world look like for Palestine and Israel? The Palestine laboratory isn’t inevitable. 

Guests: Gideon Levy, Dr Khaled Dawas and Maha Hussaini

The Palestine Laboratory Podcast is Drop Site’s first investigative series, looking into how Israel is using Palestinian territories as a testing ground to develop its occupation-enforcing tech industry. Hosted by investigative journalist Antony Loewenstein and based on his recent book, this podcast series examines how Israel is reshaping conflict and population control globally. What happens in Palestine never stays there. 

For transcripts, credits, and more, visit Dropsitenews.com and thepalestinelaboratorypodcast.com.

In the wake of 9/11, Israel’s defense industry boomed, positioning itself as a key beneficiary of the "war on terror." Loewenstein explores how private Israeli companies market their surveillance technology—tested first on Palestinians—across the globe, claiming to have the answers to address ‘global insecurity.’ In reality, it results in tighter borders, greater monitoring of refugees, and increased state surveillance. We hear from Palestinians about how these repressive tools are being used today in both Gaza and the West Bank. Can democracy exist in a society under mass surveillance? And, does it actually make us any safer?

Guests: Jez Heywood, Andrew Feinstein, Mona Shtaya, Mariam Dawas

The Palestine Laboratory Podcast is Drop Site’s first investigative series, looking into how Israel is using Palestinian territories as a testing ground to develop its occupation-enforcing tech industry. Hosted by investigative journalist Antony Loewenstein and based on his recent book, this podcast series examines how Israel is reshaping conflict and population control globally. What happens in Palestine never stays there. 

For transcripts, credits and more, visit Dropsitenews.com and thepalestinelaboratorypodcast.com.

Investigative journalist Antony Loewenstein uncovers how the Palestine Laboratory has operated since 1948, detailing Israel’s long-standing role as a major arms dealer to some of the world’s most repressive regimes. Using declassified documents, Loewenstein traces secret deals made with dictators from Pinochet's Chile to apartheid South Africa and explores how Israel's military model is now being replicated in places like Myanmar and India. As history repeats itself, how does Israel continue to act with impunity?

Guests: Daniel Silberman and Sasha Polakow-Suransky

The Palestine Laboratory Podcast is Drop Site’s first investigative series, looking into how Israel is using Palestinian territories as a testing ground to develop its occupation-enforcing tech industry. Hosted by investigative journalist Antony Loewenstein and based on his recent book, this podcast series examines how Israel is reshaping conflict and population control globally. What happens in Palestine never stays there. 

Credits

Host: Antony Loewenstein

Series Producer: Elle Marsh

Producer: Bethany Atkinson-Quinton

Production & Sound Engineering: Tim Jenkins

Field Recording: Cinnamon Nippard

Studio Recordings at 2SER: Michael Jones and Jonathan Chang

Original Music: Ara Koufax 

Music Direction: Sunless Studio

Podcast Artwork: Debashish Chakrabarty

Special Thanks: Anu Hasbold

Transcript available at dropsitenews.com

Investigative journalist Antony Loewenstein questions the narratives he was taught growing up in the Jewish Diaspora as he traces the origins of Israel’s military-industrial complex, examining how Israel became one of the world’s leading arms and tech exporters. When a military force essentially creates a nation, can they ever be truly separated?

The Palestine Laboratory Podcast is Drop Site’s first investigative series, looking into how Israel is using Palestinian territories as a testing ground to develop its occupation-enforcing tech industry. Hosted by investigative journalist Antony Loewenstein and based on his recent book, this podcast series examines how Israel is reshaping conflict and population control globally. What happens in Palestine never stays there. 

Content warning: This episode contains references to violence, including weapons of warfare, which may distress some listeners.

Guests: Mariam Dawwas, Haim Brasheeth-Zabner and Ghada Karmi

For transcripts, credits and more, visit Dropsitenews.com and thepalestinelaboratorypodcast.com.