In this episode of the Paper Jacket Podcast, Jeremy sits down with Allan Cagle, co-founder of Atlantic Pipe Services (APS)โa rapidly growing company that's quietly revolutionizing underground infrastructure in the Southeast.
Allan shares how APS went from just two employees to nearly 300 across 7 locations, the lessons he learned scaling a niche business, and why culture, trust, and people matter more than any playbook.
We dive into:
๐น What APS actually does (and why itโs critical infrastructure work)
๐น How internal innovation helped them outpace the competition
๐น Why investing in peopleโnot just performanceโis the secret to sustainable growth
๐น The unexpected link between professional bass fishing and entrepreneurship
๐น How APS recently closed a record-setting private equity deal
๐น The importance of being humble, hungry, and willing to train the next generation
This episode is for builders, operators, entrepreneurs, and anyone thinking about what it takes to scale a business that lasts.
๐ก Ideal for Industrial, Commercial, Community, and Government entities.
๐ ๏ธ Services: Trenchless cleaning, internal inspection, and rehabilitation services for Sanitary Sewer and Storm Water systems
๐ Learn more: https://atlanticpipe.us
๐ฌ Produced by: https://paper-jacket.com
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00:00 โ โYou Canโt Get Experience Without a Chanceโ
00:30 โ Meet Allan Cagle from Atlantic Pipe Services (APS)
01:00 โ What APS Does: Cleaning & Rehabbing Underground Pipes
02:30 โ Why Trenchless Rehab Saves Time, Money, and Disruption
04:30 โ How Allan Entered the Industry at 21
05:30 โ From First Employee to Launching APS in 2017
06:30 โ Growing from 2 Employees to 300+ Across Florida
08:00 โ Building Culture Without Micromanaging
09:30 โ Hiring Young Talent and Training from the Ground Up
11:00 โ Why APS Avoids โExperiencedโ Hires
12:00 โ The Bass Fishing Story That Shaped Allanโs Leadership
14:00 โ Letting Go of Control to Scale Successfully
16:30 โ Why Internal Focus Fueled External Growth
18:00 โ When Word-of-Mouth Wasnโt Enough
19:00 โ Investing in Marketing to Scale Beyond Florida
21:00 โ Selling APS to Private Equity at a Record Multiple
23:30 โ Creating Career Paths in the Trades
26:00 โ Final Thoughts on Humility, Growth, and Legacy