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The Pendulum Swings: Zuckerberg Based(?), AI Agents, Content Strategy and Agency Future - Episode 12
In episode 12 of WORK IN PROGRESS, Ian and Wes dive deep into the nuances of modern agencies, AI-driven workflows, and what it takes to create scalable, authentic content strategies. Reflecting on the constant balancing act between short-term wins and long-term growth, they explore how the pendulum of freedom, innovation, and authenticity is shaping the business landscape.
Key topics include:
- The rise of AI agents in agencies and the shift to scalable service models.
- The pros and cons of delegating tasks vs. maintaining direct control.
- How personal and company-wide content strategies drive growth.
- A candid discussion on outreach, from poorly targeted emails to Lindy AI tools.
- Reflections on the legacy of the Dutch East India Company as a lens for modern innovation.
Tune in to hear unfiltered thoughts, practical insights, and the occasional synthwave soundtrack recommendation.
Chapters:
(0:00) Intro and flu recovery struggles
(2:30) Staying hands-on in design and delegation
(6:30) Reflecting on Mark Zuckerberg's pivot and the pendulum of free speech
(10:50) Building funnels and refining Noco's content strategy
(15:40) Using AI tools to streamline podcast and content production
(21:00) Lindy AI: Exploring workflows and outreach automation
(27:00) Recently funded startups and tailored outreach
(33:30) Are agencies evolving into AI-driven enterprises?
(40:00) AI in SMEs: Opportunities for automation
(48:30) Cultural discussions and balancing innovation with authenticity
(1:02:00) Wrapping up: Synthwave, Dutch history, and personal reflections
The WORK IN PROGRESS podcast hosted by Ian Piepenbrock and Wes Botman, two founders who are scaling and refining their businesses every day.
Wes Botman is founder and CEO at Eli5 (https://eli5.io), a software studio making complex ideas simple and accessible.
Ian Piepenbrock is CEO at Noco (https://noco.agency), an agency dedicated to helping B2B SaaS and tech companies grow through strategic web design and branding.
Watch/listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2cOqBRMjjgcXKSDDIboKrt?si=6990da66e09e4ef2
Follow us on X for more raw insights, thoughts, and a good dose of founder reality:
Wes: @wesbotman (https://x.com/wesbotman)
Ian: @lamswolprins (https://x.com/lamswolprins)
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By Wes Botman, Ian PiepenbrockIn episode 12 of WORK IN PROGRESS, Ian and Wes dive deep into the nuances of modern agencies, AI-driven workflows, and what it takes to create scalable, authentic content strategies. Reflecting on the constant balancing act between short-term wins and long-term growth, they explore how the pendulum of freedom, innovation, and authenticity is shaping the business landscape.
Key topics include:
- The rise of AI agents in agencies and the shift to scalable service models.
- The pros and cons of delegating tasks vs. maintaining direct control.
- How personal and company-wide content strategies drive growth.
- A candid discussion on outreach, from poorly targeted emails to Lindy AI tools.
- Reflections on the legacy of the Dutch East India Company as a lens for modern innovation.
Tune in to hear unfiltered thoughts, practical insights, and the occasional synthwave soundtrack recommendation.
Chapters:
(0:00) Intro and flu recovery struggles
(2:30) Staying hands-on in design and delegation
(6:30) Reflecting on Mark Zuckerberg's pivot and the pendulum of free speech
(10:50) Building funnels and refining Noco's content strategy
(15:40) Using AI tools to streamline podcast and content production
(21:00) Lindy AI: Exploring workflows and outreach automation
(27:00) Recently funded startups and tailored outreach
(33:30) Are agencies evolving into AI-driven enterprises?
(40:00) AI in SMEs: Opportunities for automation
(48:30) Cultural discussions and balancing innovation with authenticity
(1:02:00) Wrapping up: Synthwave, Dutch history, and personal reflections
The WORK IN PROGRESS podcast hosted by Ian Piepenbrock and Wes Botman, two founders who are scaling and refining their businesses every day.
Wes Botman is founder and CEO at Eli5 (https://eli5.io), a software studio making complex ideas simple and accessible.
Ian Piepenbrock is CEO at Noco (https://noco.agency), an agency dedicated to helping B2B SaaS and tech companies grow through strategic web design and branding.
Watch/listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2cOqBRMjjgcXKSDDIboKrt?si=6990da66e09e4ef2
Follow us on X for more raw insights, thoughts, and a good dose of founder reality:
Wes: @wesbotman (https://x.com/wesbotman)
Ian: @lamswolprins (https://x.com/lamswolprins)