In this episode of The PETE Podcast, I sit down with Michael Velasco, founder of 1031 Exchangeable, to break down one of the most powerful wealth-preserving tools in real estate: the 1031 exchange. Michael has spent years helping investors defer taxes and keep more of the profits they work so hard to earn—and in this conversation he simplifies a topic that many investors find intimidating.
We dive into the mechanics behind 1031 exchanges, the strict timelines investors must follow, and the different types of exchanges available—including forward, reverse, and improvement exchanges. Whether you're flipping properties, scaling a rental portfolio, or repositioning assets, this episode will help you understand how to protect your equity and reinvest it strategically instead of handing it over to the IRS.
Episode Highlights
[0:00] – Forward, improvement, and reverse exchanges explained
[1:12] – Introducing Michael Velasco and the mission behind 1031 Exchangeable
[2:11] – What a 1031 exchange actually is in simple terms
[2:45] – Michael's background: real estate broker, accounting firm owner, and tax strategist
[4:16] – Why qualified intermediaries (QI) are essential for completing exchanges
[5:07] – How the IRS allows investors to defer capital gains taxes
[6:01] – Real-world example: investors losing $1M in taxes without a 1031 exchange
[7:06] – Nationwide exchanges: operating from New York to Hawaii
[7:38] – The five rules every investor must understand about 1031 exchanges
[7:57] – Rule #1: The property must be an investment property
[8:17] – Rule #2: Exchanges can involve many types of real estate assets
[8:35] – Rule #3: Equal or greater value requirement explained
[9:21] – Identifying multiple replacement properties
[9:46] – The three-property rule for replacement properties
[10:12] – The 200% rule and identifying larger portfolios
[10:59] – The 95% rule for complex exchanges
[12:24] – The 45-day identification window investors must follow
[13:12] – Why the IRS requires a qualified intermediary to hold funds
[14:14] – What happens during an IRS audit of a 1031 exchange
[15:14] – Why the 45-day rule cannot be extended
[15:32] – The 180-day window to close on replacement properties
[16:01] – Improvement exchanges for value-add investors
[16:21] – Reverse exchanges and acquiring property before selling
[17:37] – How intermediary LLCs temporarily hold title in complex exchanges
[18:41] – Red flags when choosing a 1031 intermediary
[19:24] – Certifications and industry bodies investors should verify
[20:16] – Why bonding and insurance are critical safeguards
[21:15] – Which states regulate exchanges the most
[24:43] – Risks investors face in states with minimal regulation
[25:27] – The role financing plays in structuring exchanges
[26:35] – Understanding "boot" and partial exchanges
[28:17] – Why many investors take partial cash during exchanges
[28:56] – Alternative names for 1031 exchanges
[30:02] – Construction and improvement exchange strategies
[32:43] – A real story where a deal almost collapsed at the 45-day deadline
[35:18] – Why every investor should have a 1031 expert in their network
5 Key Takeaways
- A 1031 exchange allows investors to defer capital gains taxes when selling and reinvesting in investment property.
- Timing is critical. Investors have 45 days to identify replacement properties and 180 days to close.
- Equal or greater value matters. To defer all taxes, investors must reinvest the full value of the relinquished property.
- Qualified intermediaries are required. Investors cannot touch the sale proceeds during the exchange period.
- Advanced strategies exist. Reverse exchanges and improvement exchanges open additional opportunities for value-add investors.
Links & Resources
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Company: 1031 Exchangeable
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Website: https://1031exchangeable.com
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Topics discussed: 1031 Exchanges, Reverse Exchanges, Improvement Exchanges, Capital Gains Deferral
Closing Remark
If you're selling investment property and not thinking about a 1031 exchange, you could be handing a massive portion of your profits to the IRS. Having the right strategy—and the right intermediary—can make a huge difference in how fast you scale your portfolio.
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