This week we sit down with Derek Chace the proprietor of my favorite event "The Pilgrimage Vermont". We discuss the details, stories and all things to give you a behind the scenes look so you can have an awesome experience at this amazing four day overlanding/off-roading base camp weekend in Vermont. make sure to get your tickets at https://the-pilgrimage.com . Many thanks to our show sponsor Lucky8 Offroad (www.lucky8llc.com) who is providing an exclusive discount code to all listeners for top quality recovery gear. If you are interested in STL OFFROAD classes or excursions, visit us at www.stormtrooperlandy.com.