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  • #32: Fivio Foreign & Swae Lee Producer on How Placements Really Happen | Teo Domani

    Teo Domani is the Toronto producer and sample maker behind "Could It Be" by Fivio Foreign and Swae Lee. On episode 32 of The Pinnacle he breaks down how that placement actually happened. He sent a sample out, it moved through a chain of producers he had never met, and eight months later it was a major record.


    We get into snippet purgatory and the records that never come out, the 20 minute timer method behind his output, why he thinks consistency beats talent, where producers should actually be sending their loops, the paid collab debate, what it took to score short films including one that screened at TIFF Lightbox, and why he believes an unknown artist is just as likely to change your career as a placement with a name.


    Teo Domani: https://www.instagram.com/teodomani/

    The Pinnacle: https://www.instagram.com/pinnacleatthetop/

    Beats, samples, limited-run producer tools: https://zenith.gallery/


    THE BLUEPRINT:

    00:00 - The Text: "Swae Lee Just Cut This One"

    00:31 - Meet Teo Domani: Producer, Sample Maker, Film Scorer

    05:11 - Googling "What Software Does Joji Use" and Downloading Ableton

    09:21 - Why 20 Is Not Too Old to Start Making Beats

    10:29 - The Chain Begins: Sending Loops to Kierney

    12:00 - A Random Tuesday in June: The Screen Recording

    14:03 - The One Year Rule

    14:41 - Snippet Purgatory: Records That Never Come Out

    19:56 - Telegram Over Discord: Where Producers Actually Trade

    20:25 - When Someone Posts an Email, Send It

    23:13 - What Working Hard Actually Means

    23:36 - "Talent Almost Is Irrelevant. Consistency Beats Everything."

    24:13 - The 20 Minute Timer Method

    27:21 - Nobody Wants to Be a Content Creator

    28:34 - To Be Seen Is to Be Heard

    29:14 - How Opportunities Actually Compound

    30:29 - Reaching Out When You Think You Have No Reason To

    32:06 - The Paid Collab Debate

    34:16 - In the Session: Be Malleable, Be Coachable

    35:22 - The Producers He Works With Most

    39:01 - Scoring a Film That Screened at TIFF Lightbox

    40:36 - The Dream Placement

    45:13 - There Is Not One Linear Way to Do This

    47:08 - The Hundred Record Goal

    47:47 - An Unknown Artist Could Change Everything

    50:53 - Advice Tweets Are Self Reminders

    51:20 - Where to Find Teo

    52 min
  • #31: Zero Theory, One Grammy & the Bad Bunny DM That Changed Everything | FORTHENIGHT (SZA, Don Toliver, Latto)

    He knows zero music theory. He deleted Instagram at his lowest and the first DM waiting for him became a Grammy.

    FORTHENIGHT has produced for Bad Bunny, SZA, Summer Walker, Don Toliver, Lil Uzi Vert, Mariah the Scientist, Latto & more. In episode 31 of The Pinnacle, he breaks down how those massive placements actually happened, the studio habits that get producers invited back, why he refuses to make beats specifically for placements, and the story behind the credit he almost didn't see.

    THE BLUEPRINT

    00:00 - The Hook: Terrible Moments Before Massive Wins

    00:11 - From Toronto DJ to Global Placements

    00:30 - Bypassing the Noise: Turning to Samples in 2018

    01:09 - Branding With the Moon: Scoring Scary Movie Soundtracks

    02:20 - Pure Networking: Relationships Over Opportunity

    03:45 - The 50-Beat-a-Day Trap vs. Intentional Value Packs

    05:13 - Meeting Yoko Gold & The 20-Minute Blind Test

    06:00 - Executive Producing From Niagara Falls

    08:51 - Bypassing the Game: The Lotto & Mariah The Scientist Track

    09:39 - Going to LA: Linking Up with Calvin Valentine

    10:39 - The Last-Minute Reality of Major Record Placements

    11:20 - Inside the Executive Bag vs. Rapper Beat Cycling

    12:13 - 0 Music Theory: Training the Ear to Recognize Pattern Scales

    13:40 - Managing ADHD, Lawyers, and the Business Routine

    15:46 - The #1 Rule: Don't Make Music For Placements

    17:36 - Sync Placements: Direct Bags & Bypassing Paperwork Stress

    18:24 - Studio Etiquette: Read the Mood, Stop Just Pressing Play

    20:10 - Handling Failed Sessions & Overcoming Writer's Block

    21:25 - The Incompatibility Reality: There Are Trillions of Artists

    22:20 - Releasing Plugins and Mentoring the Producer Community

    23:00 - The Full Grammy Story: Bad Bunny & The Instagram DM

    24:54 - Bouncing Back From the Latin Grammy Loss

    25:50 - The Diamond Mining Meme: Mindset in the Rough Patches

    27:02 - The Harsh Truth About "Waiting For Inspiration"

    28:35 - Paying It Forward: Balancing Faith & Ethics in the Industry

    31:21 - Sound Evolution: Transitioning From Pure Dark Textures

    32:01 - Why Catchy Melodies Will Forever Defeat AI

    33:33 - The Boy Wonder Secret: Making Complex Sound Simple

    34:10 - Why Content Creation Burns Out Full-Time Beatmakers

    35:39 - Philip Glass & Candyman: Finding Composition Angles

    36:11 - Essential Gear of 2026: Why You Must Cop a Furman Power Block

    38:22 - Digging the 60s & 70s Archives for Pure Creativity

    38:52 - Outro: The Next Big Thing from Toronto

    FORTHENIGHT

    Instagram: https://instagram.com/forthenightmusic

    THE PINNACLE

    Instagram: https://instagram.com/thepinnacleshow

    PINNACLE (Host)

    Instagram: https://instagram.com/pinnacleatthetop

    40 min
  • #30: 200M Streams, Bad Deals, & Who Really Controls Music | Nick Nash

    Nick Nash (producer for Connor Price, Sleepy Hallow, Kid G) on surviving a bad publishing deal, his 200M-stream record, leaving LA for Nashville, and why 1M TikTok views converted to less than 1,000 streams. In our fourth episode with Nick, we get into who actually controls what blows up in music right now.

    The Pinnacle is back with new episodes every week. Catch it live: https://www.youtube.com/@thepinnacleshow

    Nick Nash: https://www.instagram.com/nicknashmusicPinnacle: https://www.instagram.com/pinnacleatthetop/Beats & samples, curated, limited-run producer tools: https://zenith.gallery/

    🎁 Stick around to the end of the episode there's something for you. (Code: NICKNASH75)

    40 min
  • #29: Quavo and Future Producer Reveals His SECRET VSTs | Macshooter49

    Quavo and Future producer Macshooter49 joins The Pinnacle to reveal the VSTs, effects and Kontakt libraries he actually uses to design drums and make beats.


    Macshooter49 breaks down his secret Chop Suey drum-design technique, his favourite plugins from Arturia, Soundtoys, UAD, Teletone Audio, Slate + Ash and Spitfire Audio, and why the real β€œsauce” comes from processing and combining sounds, not simply owning rare plugins. He also discusses learning from producers like Nick Mira and BNYX, building a drum-kit business, staying consistent without burning out and dedicating most of his life to music while still in his teens.


    Macshooter: https://www.instagram.com/macshooter49

    Pinnacle: https://www.instagram.com/pinnacleatthetop/


    THE PINNACLE

    Spotify Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/1Iuuuie1skJOOAtLxg3Ie5?si=27de84daf09d4e37

    Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3GIP58l


    BLUEPRINT

    00:00 – Macshooter49 Introduction

    02:42 – Starting With Ableton and Switching to FL Studio

    06:30 – Learning From BNYX Streams Instead of Tutorials

    08:00 – Why Producers Should Learn Multiple DAWs

    10:10 – Copying Your Influences to Improve

    14:20 – Planning Drum-Kit Releases and Rollouts

    17:00 – Building Products for Long-Term Success

    20:00 – Improving One Thing With Every Upload

    23:10 – His Secret VST for Designing Drum Sounds

    25:30 – Learning From Other Producers and Sound Designers

    28:00 – Inspiration, Copying and Giving Credit

    32:00 – Discipline, Consistency and Avoiding Wasted Time

    33:00 – Outgrowing People Who Don’t Share Your Vision

    37:00 – Basketball and the NBA

    39:45 – Muay Thai and Boxing

    40:40 – Diet and Self-Improvement

    45:00 – Habit Stacking

    47:00 – Reading and Creativity

    50:00 – His Favourite Processing Plugins

    52:30 – Switching to a 96GB MacBook

    58:00 – Kontakt Libraries and More Favourite VSTs

    1:03:00 – Prophet and Affordable Hardware Synthesizers

    1:07:30 – Macshooter49’s Message to Producers

    1 hr 9 min
  • #28: The Future of A.I. and Music | Dave Edwards

    In today's episode, Dave and Pinnacle discuss the future of A.I. and it's role and effect on the music industry. They also discuss Dave's role as Head of Revenue at Audiomack, and his experiences and lessons derived from there as it pertains to A.I. and the future of music.

    Producers serious about their craft, if you're looking for FIRE, LIMITED copy samples, look no further: https://zenith.gallery/

    Guest: https://www.instagram.com/daveedwards/
    Pinnacle: https://www.instagram.com/pinnacleatthetop/
    Spotify Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/1Iuuuie1skJOOAtLxg3Ie5?si=27de84daf09d4e37
    Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3GIP58l
    Timestamps:

    00:00 - Dave Edwards Introduction

    01:30 - Audiomack and How it Helps Artists

    08:30 - A.I. and the AMOUNT of Music Being Released

    10:34 - A.I. is Already Here

    14:00 - Artist Intellectual Property

    17:00 - What Being The Head of Revenue at Audiomack Looks Like

    19:00 - Starting and Making an App

    23:00 - The Speed of Innovation in the A.I. Space

    29:30 - A.I. Fear and Uses Depending on the Industry

    36:00 - A.I. Regulations

    36:30 - Helping Software Engineers

    38:00 - Having the Best Session Guitarist in The World in Your Studio

    40:15 - Record Labels Dealing With Piracy in the early 2000's

    43 min
  • #27: Producing for Kanye and Dua Lipa | Rayan

    Producers serious about their craft, if you're looking for FIRE, LIMITED copy samples, look no further: https://zenith.gallery/

    In today's episode, Rayan and Pinnacle discuss his creative process and how he draws inspiration from his experiences and emotions. Rayan also talks about his use of layers and how he likes to add subtle details to his beats to make them more interesting. He emphasizes the importance of taking breaks when working on a beat and coming back with fresh ears. Rayan also talks about the importance of staying true to oneself and not chasing trends in the industry. He advises upcoming producers to stay consistent and keep putting out quality work.
    Guest: https://www.instagram.com/rayanxnami
    Pinnacle: https://www.instagram.com/pinnacleatthetop/
    Spotify Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/1Iuuuie1skJOOAtLxg3Ie5?si=27de84daf09d4e37
    Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3GIP58l
    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Rayan Intro
    01:15 - Moving to the US and making moves
    01:40 - Getting Credits in Norway by Networking
    03:00 - Building Networking Skills and Being Less Introverted
    04:00 - Starting Making Beats and Being Hooked Since
    06:00 - Getting 10,000 Views on FIRST YouTube Type Beat
    09:00 - Being Naturally Good and Experimenting
    11:52 - Quality over Quantity, Taking His Time on Samples
    14:50 - Producing for Will Power / Most Exciting Placement
    17:15 - Sending Out Smaller Packs Now
    18:40 - Sending The Same Pack to Everyone
    22:30 - Having a Song With Kanye
    25:31 - Keeping a Minimalistic Studio Set-Up
    27:30 - Learn to Manipulate Sounds to Get the Sound You Want
    30:40 - Being Genuine is THE MOST Important Quality
    32:22 - Showing His Face More, Branding Better
    34:00 - Signing Management and Finding The Right People
    37:30 - Almost Signing to TM88 Crash Dummy Records
    40:40 - Balancing School with Music
    42:25 - Keeping Healthy as a Producer
    43:27 - Rayan's Advice to Creatives and Music Producers



    46 min
  • #26: Multi-Platinum Billboard #1 Producer from Canada | Txpski

    In today's episode, Multi-Platinum Producer Txpski and Pinnacle discuss his work with Chris Brown, Ye Ali and MIKExANGEL. They talk about shifting roles in the industry and building a good network and support system. Txpski discusses his future trajectory and what he has in store for 2023.

    Producers serious about their craft, if you're looking for FIRE, LIMITED copy samples, look no further: https://zenith.gallery/
    Guest: https://www.instagram.com/txpski
    Pinnacle: https://www.instagram.com/pinnacleatthetop/

    Spotify Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/1Iuuuie1skJOOAtLxg3Ie5?si=27de84daf09d4e37
    Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3GIP58l

    Timestamps:

    00:00 - Txpski Intro

    03:15 - Changing Between Producing and Songwriting

    05:10 - First Major Placements with Chris Brown on Heartbreak on a Full Moon

    08:00 - Using Opportunities to Leverage Other Opportunities

    13:00 - Goals of Being Billboard #1 and Changing Goals

    16:00 - Biggest Challenges Coming Up / Access to Studios

    17:15 - Not Using VSTs for 3 Years / Using Soundfonts

    20:00 - How Txpski Learns New Skills

    22:30 - Txpski's Day

    24:00 - The Process of Sending Out Demos for Artists

    28:00 - Music Not Sticking Around Long Anymore / Favourite Projects

    30:00 - Protecting Your Ears / Having a Good Support System

    35:00 - Modelling Your Beat after a Billboard Hit

    37:00 - Being Financially Aware When Going to L.A. etc

    40:00 - A.I in Music

    41:00 - Releasing His Own Music

    42:00 - First Sync Placement

    46 min
  • #25: Producing Bank Account for Baby Keem and Lil Uzi | Soldado

    In today's episode, Soldado and Pinnacle discuss his music production and his collaborations with artists such as Baby Keem, Lil Uzi, ASAP Ferg, and Migos, noting his preference for using one shots and emphasizing the importance of unique sound design and FX. Pinnacle and him provide advice for new producers, including the value of consistency and the importance of having fun and being creative. Additionally, they stress the importance of networking and building relationships with collaborators and professionals in the music industry.

    Producers serious about their craft, if you're looking for FIRE, LIMITED copy samples, look no further: https://zenith.gallery/
    Guest: https://www.instagram.com/soldadoaudio
    Pinnacle: https://www.instagram.com/pinnacleatthetop/
    Spotify Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/1Iuuuie1skJOOAtLxg3Ie5?si=27de84daf09d4e37
    Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3GIP58l
    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Soldado Intro
    02:00 - Sharing Personal Life Online
    05:10 - Sending Out Smaller Packs Because They're Received Better
    07:30 - Arranging Samples for Listening or Creativity
    08:45 - Making Beats for The First Time
    09:45 - Trying and Failing Multiple Times
    12:00 - From a Creative Outlet to a Career Pursuit / First Placement with ILoveMakonnen
    14:30 - Ryan Bevolo, Making Beats on the Bus
    16:00 - Future Astronaut Status / Jordan Diddy
    18:00 - Sound Selection
    19:35 - One Shots Over VSTs
    22:00 - Best Plugins
    24:00 - Using Hidden Gems instead of Popular VSTs and Banks
    27:00 - Producing Back Hurt for A$AP Ferg and Migos
    28:00 - Larry June
    31:00 - Regular Work Day / Schedule / Daily Goals
    33:00 - Using Starters (Cubeatz)
    35:00 - Reverse Engineer Songs
    36:00 - NOW is the Best Time to Get Started
    37:00 - Using Inspiration Liberally
    40:00 - Show Your Personality / Be a Human
    41:00 - Burning Bridges After One Placement
    43:30 - Balancing University and Music (Really Good Advice Here)
    47:00 - A.I. and How to Approach the Industry with This New Technology
    50:44 - Linking With Jackson Romain
    53:00 - Sending Things Back on Time
    54:00 - Kearney and Main.Key
    57:30 - Manager and A&R Role

    1 hr 1 min
  • #24: Producing on Chris Brown's 'Royalty' | Goldenboy

    RIAA Platinum producer Goldenboy has worked with Chris Brown, Jacquees, Tink, Khary, Tracy T, anders, Garren and more. On Episode 24 of The Pinnacle, he breaks down how his Chris Brown placement on Royalty happened, why marketing is one of the biggest advantages producers ignore, how he built genuine relationships in the industry, and the mindset required to survive the inevitable lows of a music career.Goldenboy: https://www.instagram.com/ohgoldenboy/Pinnacle: https://www.instagram.com/pinnacleatthetop/THE PINNACLESpotify Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/1Iuuuie1skJOOAtLxg3Ie5?si=27de84daf09d4e37Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3GIP58lInstagram: https://instagram.com/ThePinnacleShowTHE BLUEPRINT00:00 - Goldenboy Intro01:23 - Creating Studio Sessions Artists Want to Return To04:45 - Breaking Through Creative Blocks in the Studio08:27 - Being Timely in Studio Sessions 11:00 - How He Got His Beats Heard13:40 - Moving to L.A After Winning Beat Battle18:31 - Why Marketing Helped Him Land Placements20:30 - How the Chris Brown Placement Happened26:15 - Staying Organized and Keeping A Schedule28:35 - Dealing With Low Moments31:00 - Favorite Plugins & Production Workflow34:52 - Who Do You Go To When You're Feeling Lost38:50 - Types of People You Don't Want to Work With41:41 - Favorite Piece of Equipment45:20 - Advice Every Producer Needs to Hear48:30 - Why Most Producers Quit Too Early52:00 - Why Intentions Matter in Music53:00 - Pessimism in the Music Industry59:00 - Learning As Much As You Can From Your ExperiencesLIVE BROADCASTSEpisodes are recorded live, join us next time right here on YouTube and be a part of the experience or:Twitch: https://twitch.tv/thepinnacleshowKick: https://kick.com/thepinnacle#MusicProducer #ChrisBrown #ThePinnacle

    1 hr 2 min
  • #23: From Classical Music to Platinum Producer | Moo Latte
    Producers serious about their craft, if you're looking for FIRE, LIMITED copy samples, look no further: https://zenith.gallery/
    In today's episode, Moo Latte and Pinnacle discuss making transitions in your career, facing rejection as a musician, playing live shows, and going platinum with Polish rapper Mata.
    Guest: https://www.instagram.com/moolattemusic
    Pinnacle: https://www.instagram.com/pinnacleatthetop/
    Spotify Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/1Iuuuie1skJOOAtLxg3Ie5?si=27de84daf09d4e37
    Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3GIP58l
    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Moo Latte Introduction
    02:30 - Classical vs. Rhythmic Music
    04:00 - Recording in Audacity
    04:30 - Producing Journey
    08:30 - Playing in a Live Band for a Theater
    11:00 - Meeting Deadlines and Work Ethic
    14:10 - Being Rejected as a Musician
    26:00 - Focusing on Personal Music Projects While Studying
    29:00 - Joining His Dream Band and Playing 100 Shows Per Year
    32:00 - Trying to Pay Money For a Mentor
    36:00 - Hardest Skill for Moo Latte to Learn
    39:15 - The Best Music Has Imperfections
    41:00 - Composing for Movies and TV Series
    45:00 - Grinding Instagram Content, and Burning Out
    49:00 - Advice for Musicians Starting Out
    52:00 - Creative Block and What to Do About It
    58:00 - Going PLATINUM in Poland with Mata
    1:04:00 - Touring, Work Ethic and Balance
    1:10:00 - Who Do You Go To When You're Feeling Lost
    1:12:00 - Best and Favorite VSTs
    1:23:00 - Mixing and Mastering Plugins and Process
    1 hr 35 min

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