Wow! We were thrilled to talk with Jim Gavin and Peter Ocko. They chatted with us for almost an hour talking about how the show came into existence, the production of the show, the music, their philosophy of the show and their vision about how much story they still have to tell!

Note: The sound quality wasn't up to our regular show standard but this method works best to be able to have conversations and share them with you all. Our apologies, but its well worth it!

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