The Pomp Podcast

Ryan Cohen is the CEO and Chairman of GameStop and the co-founder of Chewy. This was recorded live at the Silvia Investor Summit in New York. In this conversation, we break down how AI is changing work and hiring, his concerns about where humans fit in an automated future, and the rise of the retail investor. We also discuss Neuralink, how he talks to shareholders, his biggest failure, and the legacy he wants to leave.

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Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates investment strategies across Stocks, Commodities, ETFs and Crypto. Whether you’re rotating into AI & Gold, allocating to the S&P 500, or accumulating Bitcoin, Arch Public executes your plan 24/7 without ever taking custody of your assets or funds. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com, and start your FREE automated trading strategy!

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Uphold is the easiest way to buy and sell crypto unlike any other platform allowing you to trade in just one step between any supported asset. Check them out at https://www.uphold.com/pomp/ This video includes a paid sponsorship with Uphold. I’m compensated by Uphold for promoting its products and services and may receive commissions from referrals. Terms apply. Not available in all jurisdictions. Digital assets are risky and may result in the total loss of your capital.

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• 0:00 - Intro
• 0:30 - AI risks & how GameStop uses AI
• 3:04 - How Ryan spends his time
• 6:05 - Hiring in the age of AI
• 7:45 - Why Ryan wants to learn Chinese
• 8:55 - Robots, UBI & human utility
• 13:53 - Neuralink & brain-computer interfaces
• 17:50 - Retail investors vs Wall Street
• 21:10 - Greatest strengths & weaknesses
• 23:05 - Shareholder communication & ignoring the noise
• 28:04 - Biggest failure
• 29:45 - Legacy & final thoughts

Chris Camillo is a self-taught investor known for pioneering social arbitrage investing and the host of Dumb Money Live. This was recorded live at the Silvia Investor Summit in New York. In this conversation, we break down his $10M one-day Amazon options trade, how AI corrupted Google Trends data, and why retail investors underuse leverage and concentration. We also discuss humanoid robotics, autonomous warfare, and why the best investors today are outside Wall Street.

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Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates investment strategies across Stocks, Commodities, ETFs and Crypto. Whether you’re rotating into AI & Gold, allocating to the S&P 500, or accumulating Bitcoin, Arch Public executes your plan 24/7 without ever taking custody of your assets or funds. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com, and start your FREE automated trading strategy!

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• 0:00 - Intro
• 0:34 - Social arbitrage, AI & humanoid robotics
• 4:46 - Changing your mind & the Lululemon Google Trends trade
• 9:40 - Using conversational data to find trades
• 12:36 - The $10M Amazon earnings trade
• 21:31 - Cash, leverage & concentration
• 26:22 - Leveraged S&P ETFs & tail risk
• 29:22 - AI risk, drones & autonomous warfare
• 34:40 - Investing as a lifestyle & community
• 37:30 - Finding great retail investors & why they win

Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with 30+ years of experience and the author of the VisserLabs Substack. In this conversation, we break down the coming “bankpocalypse,” why AI agents will disrupt banks and big tech, and whether AI models are becoming commoditized. We also discuss the bitcoin setup, crypto’s shift from contrarian to consensus trade on Wall Street, and how to separate signal from noise in the AI bubble debate.

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Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates investment strategies across Stocks, Commodities, ETFs and Crypto. Whether you’re rotating into AI & Gold, allocating to the S&P 500, or accumulating Bitcoin, Arch Public executes your plan 24/7 without ever taking custody of your assets or funds. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com, and start your FREE automated trading strategy!

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This podcast is sponsored by Abra.com. Abra is the secure way to access crypto and crypto based yield and loan products through a separately managed account structure.
Learn more at http://www.abra.com.

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• 0:00 - Intro
• 0:54 - The “bankpocalypse” 
• 5:20 - Can AI agents disrupt Amazon & the banks?
• 10:08 - Are AI models becoming commoditized?
• 20:40 - How do personal agents make money?
• 23:30 - Toll collectors: compute & crypto
• 28:16 - Bitcoin outlook & why patience pays
• 33:53 - Crypto & Wall Street: contrarian to consensus
• 38:46 - Bubble talk: signal vs noise
• 44:00 - Jordi’s 2027 crypto world tour

Bill Barhydt is the founder and CEO of Abra. In this conversation, we break down why bitcoin is climbing despite rising rates and macro headwinds, where its next wave of demand will come from, and how the debt spiral drives inflation. We also discuss AI agents, the future of wealth management, tokenized yield, and how Abra is building a neo-banking stack for crypto.

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Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates investment strategies across Stocks, Commodities, ETFs and Crypto. Whether you’re rotating into AI & Gold, allocating to the S&P 500, or accumulating Bitcoin, Arch Public executes your plan 24/7 without ever taking custody of your assets or funds. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com, and start your FREE automated trading strategy!

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GalaxyOne is a financial technology platform built for people who want their cash working harder. → https://go.galaxy.app/HMiq/pomp Galaxy Premium Yield is an investment note issued by Galaxy Digital LP and guaranteed by Galaxy Digital Holdings LP. It is not a bank deposit, is unsecured, and is not FDIC or SIPC insured. U.S. accredited investors only. Cash deposits held at Cross River Bank, Member FDIC. Securities products are not FDIC insured, not bank guaranteed, and may lose value. GalaxyOne Crypto is not FDIC or SIPC insured. Terms apply.

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Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Mining or to get started mining Bitcoin, visit https://www.simplemining.io/pomp

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• 0:00 - Intro
• 0:51 - Why bitcoin is rising despite macro headwinds
• 4:08 - Shrinking volatility & bitcoin cycle returns
• 9:15 - Is there a way out of the debt spiral?
• 15:10 - AI is turning everyone into a software engineer
• 20:17 - Why RIAs are falling behind
• 27:48 - What Abra is building with tokenized yield & lending
• 33:49 - Tokenization & the next generation of investors
• 36:30 - AI financial advisors & regulation
• 38:38 - The end of apps & the agentic future
  

Simon Dixon is an early Bitcoin investor and the co-founder and CEO of BnkToTheFuture, which backed companies like Coinbase, Kraken, and BitPay. In this conversation, we break down who really controls global capital, how Wall Street is co-opting bitcoin, and what the Coldcard hack means for self custody. We also discuss AI, surveillance, data centers, the K-shaped economy, and why sovereignty will be the most important skill of the next two decades.

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Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates investment strategies across Stocks, Commodities, ETFs and Crypto. Whether you’re rotating into AI & Gold, allocating to the S&P 500, or accumulating Bitcoin, Arch Public executes your plan 24/7 without ever taking custody of your assets or funds. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com, and start your FREE automated trading strategy!

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• 0:00 - Intro
• 1:09 - Simon's bitcoin journey since 2011
• 6:50 - Geopolitics, world order & where we disagree
• 10:40 - Who really runs America?
• 12:54 - Does bitcoin starve the system of capital?
• 15:49 - The Coldcard hack & the future of self custody
• 21:43 - The token economy & life 20 years from now
• 29:08 - Surveillance, privacy & sovereignty
• 33:36 - Data centers, the AI race & the K-shaped economy
• 40:17 - BlackRock, ETF flows & what would change his mind
• 43:39 - What the bitcoin price is telling us

Hunter Biden is an attorney, artist, writer, and the son of former President Joe Biden. In this conversation, we break down why he believes in bitcoin, the problem with money printing, and his biggest critiques of both the Biden and Trump administrations. We also discuss his recovery from addiction, AI, the launch of his Laptop token, and whether he would ever run for President.

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Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates investment strategies across Stocks, Commodities, ETFs and Crypto. Whether you’re rotating into AI & Gold, allocating to the S&P 500, or accumulating Bitcoin, Arch Public executes your plan 24/7 without ever taking custody of your assets or funds. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com, and start your FREE automated trading strategy!

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Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Mining or to get started mining Bitcoin, visit https://www.simplemining.io/pomp

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Uphold is the easiest way to buy and sell crypto unlike any other platform allowing you to trade in just one step between any supported asset. Check them out at https://www.uphold.com/pomp/ This video includes a paid sponsorship with Uphold. I’m compensated by Uphold for promoting its products and services and may receive commissions from referrals. Terms apply. Not available in all jurisdictions. Digital assets are risky and may result in the total loss of your capital.

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• 0:00 - Intro
• 1:12 - Does Hunter Biden own bitcoin?
• 5:46 - Biggest critiques of the Biden & Trump administrations
• 8:32 - Biggest positives of each administration
• 10:53 - Anything nice to say about Trump?
• 14:29 - Staying silent through the attacks & addiction recovery
• 19:58 - Would Hunter Biden run for president?
• 23:59 - Leaving the Democratic Party & voting independent
• 25:50 - AI: doomer or accelerationist?
• 36:30 - What is the Laptop token?
• 42:28 - Owning "Hunter Biden's laptop"
• 44:31 - Rapid fire questions

Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with 30+ years of experience and the author of the VisserLabs Substack. In this conversation, we break down why the macro doomers are wrong about rates, whether OpenAI and Anthropic are slowing down, and why the explosion of personal AI agents needs crypto rails. We also discuss Wall Street's growing crypto FOMO, the bitcoin setup heading into Q4, and what Jordi calls the "micron moment."

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Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates investment strategies across Stocks, Commodities, ETFs and Crypto. Whether you’re rotating into AI & Gold, allocating to the S&P 500, or accumulating Bitcoin, Arch Public executes your plan 24/7 without ever taking custody of your assets or funds. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com, and start your FREE automated trading strategy!

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Need liquidity without selling your crypto? Take out a Figure Crypto-Backed Loan, allowing you to borrow against your BTC, ETH, or SOL with 12-month terms, 8.91% interest rates, and no prepayment penalties. Or check out Democratized Prime (https://figuremarkets.co/pomp) and earn ~8.5% APY on real world assets. Unlock your crypto’s potential today at Figure! https://figuremarkets.co/pomp Figure Lending LLC dba Figure (NMLS 1717824). Loans subject to approval. Crypto collateral may be liquidated. Terms apply - see full disclosures at https://figure.com/disclosures/

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GalaxyOne is a financial technology platform built for people who want their cash working harder. Open an account with promo code POMP and deposit $10,000 to earn a $1,000 bonus. See site for promotion details → https://www.galaxy.app/pomp1000 Galaxy Premium Yield is an investment note issued by Galaxy Digital LP and guaranteed by Galaxy Digital Holdings LP. It is not a bank deposit, is unsecured, and is not FDIC or SIPC insured. U.S. accredited investors only. Cash deposits held at Cross River Bank, Member FDIC. Securities products are not FDIC insured, not bank guaranteed, and may lose value. GalaxyOne Crypto is not FDIC or SIPC insured. Terms apply.

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Lava is a global platform for bitcoin financial services. Spend with Lava Card and earn up to 5% back in bitcoin with every purchase— all with no annual fee, no FX fees, and zero spread. Plus you can borrow against your bitcoin at the lowest rates, earn yield on cash, and move fiat or stablecoins globally. Get started at https://www.lava.xyz/POMP

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• 0:00 - Intro
• 1:02 - Why the macro doomers are wrong on rates
• 3:23 - Homebuilders, autos & the new economy
• 5:54 - Tech dominance & why AI ignores rates
• 11:10 - Are OpenAI & Anthropic slowing down?
• 22:15 - The personal AI agent explosion
• 26:08 - Why AI agents need crypto
• 29:22 - Wall Street FOMO for crypto
• 32:44 - Bitcoin bull trend & this week's macro data
• 35:52 - Why crypto wins the fourth quarter
• 38:14 - AI to bitcoin rotation & the VisserLabs index
• 45:52 - The micron moment for crypto

Dan Ives is a Partner and Senior Managing Director at Yorkville Ives. In this conversation, we break down where value is building in the AI trade, Dario's warnings about AI, regulatory capture, and whether OpenAI and Anthropic are in more trouble than people realize. We also discuss the White House AI meeting, sovereign AI, the US vs China race, and his new Ives Ultra Fund.

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Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates investment strategies across Stocks, Commodities, ETFs and Crypto. Whether you’re rotating into AI & Gold, allocating to the S&P 500, or accumulating Bitcoin, Arch Public executes your plan 24/7 without ever taking custody of your assets or funds. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com, and start your FREE automated trading strategy!

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Lava is a global platform for bitcoin financial services. Spend with Lava Card and earn up to 5% back in bitcoin with every purchase— all with no annual fee, no FX fees, and zero spread. Plus you can borrow against your bitcoin at the lowest rates, earn yield on cash, and move fiat or stablecoins globally. Get started at ⁠https://www.lava.xyz/POMP⁠

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This episode is brought to you by Investor Health — clinician-prescribed protocols for weight, metabolism, energy, and longevity, delivered to your door in 48–72 hours. No office visits, no referrals. Plans start at $149/mo. Learn more at ⁠http://www.InvestorHealth.com/pomp⁠. Investor Health is a telehealth platform, not a medical provider. Compounded medications are not FDA-approved. Individual results may vary and treatment requires evaluation by a licensed provider.

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• 0:00 - Intro
• 1:12 - Where's the value in the AI trade?
• 2:32 - Dario's AI warning & regulatory capture
• 5:15 - Are OpenAI & Anthropic in trouble?
• 11:04 - Trump's White House AI meeting
• 13:51 - Open source vs closed source AI
• 15:32 - Token price war & the Anthropic IPO
• 22:33 - How to invest in the AI trade
• 25:04 - Personal AI agents & consumer AI
• 26:31 - Why tech is ignoring macro headwinds
• 30:36 - The Ives Ultra AI Fund
• 33:21 - Data, sovereign AI & the future of work

Tillman Holloway and Andrew Parish are the co-founders of Arch Public. In this conversation, we break down how AI agents and bitcoin are converging, why bitcoin is the best collateral in the world, and what 24/7 markets will mean for investors. We also discuss bitcoin ETF flows, Wall Street's growing role in bitcoin, and why AI trading tools still need a human in control.

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Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates investment strategies across Stocks, Commodities, ETFs and Crypto. Whether you’re rotating into AI & Gold, allocating to the S&P 500, or accumulating Bitcoin, Arch Public executes your plan 24/7 without ever taking custody of your assets or funds. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com, and start your FREE automated trading strategy!

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Lava is a global platform for bitcoin financial services. Spend with Lava Card and earn up to 5% back in bitcoin with every purchase— all with no annual fee, no FX fees, and zero spread. Plus you can borrow against your bitcoin at the lowest rates, earn yield on cash, and move fiat or stablecoins globally. Get started at https://www.lava.xyz/POMP

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GalaxyOne is a financial technology platform built for people who want their cash working harder. Open an account with promo code POMP and deposit $10,000 to earn a $1,000 bonus. See site for promotion details → https://www.galaxy.app/pomp1000 Galaxy Premium Yield is an investment note issued by Galaxy Digital LP and guaranteed by Galaxy Digital Holdings LP. It is not a bank deposit, is unsecured, and is not FDIC or SIPC insured. U.S. accredited investors only. Cash deposits held at Cross River Bank, Member FDIC. Securities products are not FDIC insured, not bank guaranteed, and may lose value. GalaxyOne Crypto is not FDIC or SIPC insured. Terms apply.

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This episode is brought to you by Investor Health — clinician-prescribed protocols for weight, metabolism, energy, and longevity, delivered to your door in 48–72 hours. No office visits, no referrals. Plans start at $149/mo. Learn more at http://www.InvestorHealth.com/pomp. Investor Health is a telehealth platform, not a medical provider. Compounded medications are not FDA-approved. Individual results may vary and treatment requires evaluation by a licensed provider.

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• 0:00 - Intro
• 1:10 - AI agents, bitcoin & crypto as collateral
• 4:18 - 24/7 markets are coming
• 6:40 - Crypto tokens vs AI tokens
• 12:20 - Trust & security with AI agents
• 16:55 - Can AI trade for you 24/7?
• 25:42 - Why people name their AI agents
• 32:53 - Why bitcoin ignores macro headwinds
• 36:16 - Bitcoin ETF flows & retail demand
• 40:01 - Bitcoin price outlook & dip buying
• 43:27 - Elon, X Money & the tech titans
• 45:20 - Future of AI tools & Arch Public

Christopher Zook is the founder, chairman, and CIO of CAZ Investments and co-author of “The Holy Grail of Investing” with Tony Robbins. In this conversation, we break down how to build a diversified portfolio in a rapidly changing world, why CAZ invests in the picks and shovels of crypto, and the rise of neoprimes in space and defense. We also discuss the scarcity behind bitcoin, sports teams, and GP stakes, and why AI's impact on jobs keeps him up at night.

Check out CAZ at ( https://cazinvestments.com) and the Holy Grail of Investing book's website (https://www.theholygrailofinvesting.com) !

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Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates investment strategies across Stocks, Commodities, ETFs and Crypto. Whether you’re rotating into AI & Gold, allocating to the S&P 500, or accumulating Bitcoin, Arch Public executes your plan 24/7 without ever taking custody of your assets or funds. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com, and start your FREE automated trading strategy!

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Lava is a global platform for bitcoin financial services. Spend with Lava Card and earn up to 5% back in bitcoin with every purchase— all with no annual fee, no FX fees, and zero spread. Plus you can borrow against your bitcoin at the lowest rates, earn yield on cash, and move fiat or stablecoins globally. Get started at https://www.lava.xyz/POMP

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• 0:00 - Intro
• 1:01 - How to invest in a rapidly changing world
• 3:21 - Modern portfolio theory & the holy grail of investing
• 7:42 - How CAZ invests in bitcoin & crypto
• 10:35 - Space & defense (the rise of neoprimes)
• 16:16 - Writing “The Holy Grail of Investing” with Tony Robbins
• 20:08 - Does diversification have to be boring?
• 26:05 - Bitcoin, sports teams & GP stakes (the power of scarcity)
• 32:34 - What keeps him up at night? 
• 37:53 - Where to find the book & CAZ Investments