Jordi Visser is a macro investor with over 30 years of Wall Street experience, and he also writes a Substack called “VisserLabs” and puts out investing YouTube videos. In this conversation we break down the major forces driving markets today — bitcoin’s price action, accelerating institutional adoption, the latest AI developments, internal tensions at OpenAI, and an overlooked industrial company he believes will be critical to the future economy. We wrap with a sharp look at the Fed, interest rates, deflation signals, and why easy money is still flowing through the system.

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 – Intro

• 1:50 – How to evaluate bitcoin right now

• 6:29 – The AI boom impact on asset prices & macro environment

• 11:59 – Deflation impact & Elon says will work be optional?

• 18:25 – Evaluating jobs data in an AI-driven economy

• 25:57 – The AI impact on the economy

• 41:42 – Michael Burry & Elon’s view on the economy & the future

• 48:16 – Where to find Jordi’s content

Seamus Rocca is the CEO of Xapo Bank. In this conversation, we dig into the real-world data behind Bitcoin adoption — why it looks very different from the popular narratives, who is actually using bitcoin, which geographies are driving growth, and how ETFs and corporate treasuries are reshaping demand. He also shares the surprising areas where bitcoin products may take off next.

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Bitwise is one of the largest and fastest-growing crypto asset managers, with more than $15 billion in client assets across an expanding suite of investment solutions—including the world’s largest crypto index fund—plus products spanning Bitcoin, Ethereum, DeFi, and crypto equities. In addition to managing assets, Bitwise helps investors stay informed about the fast-moving crypto market. Every week, CIO Matt Hougan breaks down what’s happening in crypto in five minutes or less. Read the latest at https://experts.bitwiseinvestments.com/cio-memos. Certain Bitwise investment products may be subject to the extreme risks associated with investing in crypto assets. Visit https://bitwiseinvestments.com/disclosures to learn more.

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 — Intro

• 2:04 — Why older people are now adopting bitcoin

• 6:58 — Why bitcoin adoption differs across regions

• 11:02 — What is the Xapo Vault & how does the security work?

• 14:55 — Have Bitcoin ETFs helped or hurt Xapo?

• 17:40 — The overlooked impact of Wences Casares

• 20:15 — Bitcoin treasury companies & new financial engineering

• 23:16 — What Xapo must do to win in 2026

• 26:27 — What’s the next big bitcoin product?

Darius Dale is the Founder & CEO of 42 Macro. In this conversation, we break down the growing divisions inside the Federal Reserve, the real odds of a December rate cut, and who may lead the Fed next. Darius explains how Fed policy is moving asset prices in every direction and why markets are pricing something very different from what the Fed is saying.

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 – Intro

• 1:28 – Why the Federal Reserve is deeply divided

• 6:18 – Structural changes reshaping the US economy

• 9:40 – Will the market force the Fed to cut rates?

• 13:17 – The K-shaped economy: who’s in recession?

• 19:29 – Markets at risk: positioning signals flashing red

• 22:31 – What the KISS model says about bitcoin

Jeff Park is the Partner & Chief Investment Officer at ProCap BTC. In this conversation, we break down the latest FUD around Strategy and Tether — what’s real, what’s noise, and why these narratives keep coming back. Jeff also explains why crypto sentiment feels so beaten down, what’s actually driving price action, and how to think about the current liquidity backdrop. We wrap with why QT is effectively over, QE is creeping back, and what that means for bitcoin going forward.

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 – Intro

• 1:54 – Why crypto sentiment feels so bad right now

• 7:21 – Bitcoin vs altcoins: supply, leverage & liquidations

• 9:33 – Correlation, institutions & the 4-year cycle

• 14:41 – How to evaluate Strategy right now & should they sell bitcoin?

• 26:26 – What’s really going on with Tether?

• 32:33 – QT is over, QE is back & what that means moving forward

Anthony and John Pompliano break down the chaos inside today’s markets — from Bitcoin’s pullback to what’s really happening with the ETFs. We dig into why Vanguard suddenly capitulated, how a Trump-appointed Fed chair could reshape the entire macro landscape, and why political goggles are destroying people’s ability to think clearly about money. Plus, we unpack Michael and Susan Dell’s massive $6.25 billion donation to jump-start investing accounts for 25 million American kids — and what it means for the next generation of wealth-building.

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Bitwise is one of the largest and fastest-growing crypto asset managers, with more than $15 billion in client assets across an expanding suite of investment solutions—including the world’s largest crypto index fund—plus products spanning Bitcoin, Ethereum, DeFi, and crypto equities. In addition to managing assets, Bitwise helps investors stay informed about the fast-moving crypto market. Every week, CIO Matt Hougan breaks down what’s happening in crypto in five minutes or less. Read the latest at https://experts.bitwiseinvestments.com/cio-memos. Certain Bitwise investment products may be subject to the extreme risks associated with investing in crypto assets. Visit https://bitwiseinvestments.com/disclosures to learn more.

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 – Intro

• 1:29 – Bitcoin’s price drop & volatility

• 10:12 – ETF vs spot bitcoin & leverage warnings

• 16:40 – Vanguard + institutions opening access to Bitcoin ETFs

• 21:39 – Trump’s Fed pick & Jerome Powell legacy

• 25:56 – Political goggles: data, bias & media narratives

• 33:45 – Doctors using ChatGPT & the future of expertise

• 36:38 – Michael & Susan Dell’s $6.25B Invest America

Natalie Brunell is one of the leading voices in bitcoin, widely respected for helping millions understand the asset and the broader macro landscape. In this conversation, we break down why Bitcoin’s price has stalled, how it stacks up against gold, the biggest misconceptions critics still get wrong, stablecoins, Wall Street’s growing role, and whether Satoshi’s identity even matters. Natalie also shares insights from her book Bitcoin Is For Everyone and why she believes bitcoin’s long-term outlook remains as strong as ever.

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DeFi Development Corp. (Nasdaq: DFDV) is pioneering a new category in crypto investing with the first Solana-focused Digital Asset Treasury. DFDV offers public market exposure to Solana’s growth, yield, and onchain innovation, offering investors a leveraged way to participate in a trillion-dollar opportunity. Learn more about why Solana and why DFDV at ⁠SolanaTo10K.com⁠.

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 – Intro

• 2:09 – Inflation & the U.S. affordability crisis

• 5:12 – Bitcoin vs. Gold

• 6:27 – Wall Street’s role in bitcoin and nation-state adoption

• 10:59 – Bitcoin as payments vs. store of value

• 12:56 – Stablecoins relationship to bitcoin

• 16:52 – Censorship, de-banking & financial freedom

• 21:16 – Banks & bitcoin reserves

• 22:42 – Media coverage of bitcoin and how to fix broken incentives

• 27:36 – “Bitcoin Is For Everyone”

• 33:20 – How to measure inflation

• 35:47 – The money printer mountain

• 37:26 – Who is Satoshi? Does it matter?

• 38:45 – Selling the book and closing remarks

Anthony and John Pompliano dig into whether markets have truly bottomed or if more pain is coming. They break down the economy, inflation, rates, politics, and immigration — and how all of it is shaping investor psychology right now. Plus, they unpack Mike Green’s argument that America’s real poverty line may be closer to $140,000 than $31,000.

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DeFi Development Corp. (Nasdaq: DFDV) is pioneering a new category in crypto investing with the first Solana-focused Digital Asset Treasury. DFDV offers public market exposure to Solana’s growth, yield, and onchain innovation, offering investors a leveraged way to participate in a trillion-dollar opportunity. Learn more about why Solana and why DFDV at SolanaTo10K.com.

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Bitwise is one of the largest and fastest-growing crypto asset managers, with more than $15 billion in client assets across an expanding suite of investment solutions—including the world’s largest crypto index fund—plus products spanning Bitcoin, Ethereum, DeFi, and crypto equities. In addition to managing assets, Bitwise helps investors stay informed about the fast-moving crypto market. Every week, CIO Matt Hougan breaks down what’s happening in crypto in five minutes or less. Read the latest at https://experts.bitwiseinvestments.com/cio-memos. Certain Bitwise investment products may be subject to the extreme risks associated with investing in crypto assets. Visit https://bitwiseinvestments.com/disclosures to learn more.
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Timestamps:

• 0:00 – Intro

• 1:16 – Has Bitcoin actually bottomed?

• 12:38 – Why do we need a rate cut?

• 21:29 – How lower rates + AI fuel growth

• 26:24 – DOGE and political mismanagement

• 31:25 – The real solution: financial education

• 36:13 – The $140K poverty line debate

• 45:05 – Tech lowers costs; government raises them

Matthew Sigel is the Portfolio Manager of the VanEck Onchain Economy ETF ($NODE), one of the most forward-thinking institutional products in the crypto ecosystem. In this episode, we break down how major institutions are evaluating Bitcoin — from market structure and sentiment to what’s driving recent price action. Matthew shares the three indicators he uses to gauge Bitcoin’s direction, how he thinks about buying during volatility, and what he’s watching in crypto-linked public equities. We also dig into the broader digital-asset landscape — from smart-contract platforms to stablecoins and where he sees the strongest long-term opportunities.

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 – Intro

• 2:06 – How institutions are thinking about bitcoin right now

• 6:10 – How to evaluate metrics in real time and key bitcoin price levels

• 10:33 – Crypto-linked equities and why $NODE outperformed

• 17:08 – What reverses the bitcoin miner downturn?

• 23:41 – Evaluating companies holding bitcoin on balance sheet

• 34:46 – Matthew’s outlook on altcoins and bitcoin dominance

• 39:43 – Inside $NODE: structure, allocation, and strategy

Jordi Visser is a macro investor with over 30 years of Wall Street experience. He also writes a Substack called “VisserLabs” and produces deep-dive investing videos on YouTube. In this episode, we unpack the latest market pullback — why prices are dropping, why investor fear has spiked, and whether this is the start of a bear market or simply a healthy correction. We also break down asset performance, where Jordi sees opportunity, and the signals that could mark a reversal — plus a quick look at Bitcoin’s volatility and what it means for long-term investors.

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 – Intro

• 1:48 – Why is fear spiking? What’s driving the sell-off?

• 5:51 – Expectations vs. reality + seasonality trend

• 10:25 – Nvidia beats… so why did markets still sell off?

• 14:16 – Is Bitcoin’s 30–35% drawdown normal?

• 19:18 – Why this sell-off feels different

• 24:42 – Fed December rate cut, jobs data, & midterms

• 30:28 – What signals would mark a real market reversal?

• 34:06 – AI, leverage, and private credit

• 38:38 – Innovation drives the market long-term

• 45:20 – Thanksgiving break announcement

Jeff Park is the Partner and Chief Investment Officer at ProCap BTC. In this conversation, we break down why bitcoin’s price has been slipping and whether the market is actually signaling the start of a bear trend. Jeff explains the key forces driving sentiment — from liquidity pressures to global macro shifts — and why a slightly negative year for bitcoin might not be as bearish as it sounds.We also dig into what it would take for bitcoin to rip back toward the $125K–$150K range, plus how geopolitical dynamics in Japan, China, and elsewhere are shaping the broader investment landscape.

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 – Intro

• 1:50 – Why is bitcoin dropping? Should investors be worried?

• 4:36 – Do technical levels like CME gaps actually matter?

• 8:13 – Harvard’s bitcoin position and how endowments invest

• 12:15 – Has optionality changed bitcoin’s market dynamics?

• 15:14 – What Jeff is watching for real signs of optimism

• 17:30 – Is the 4-year cycle officially dead?

• 23:18 – Macro risks: liquidity, global conflict, & Trump premium

• 25:56 – What would a true upside black swan look like?

• 28:05 – How do you underwrite quantum risk today?