BDO's Legal Tech Talk Podcast

The Power of Active Listening: AI and E-Discovery


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Guest Notes

Vanessa Barsanti emphasizes the significance of active listening and effective communication in resolving disputes and reaching agreements during legal proceedings. She also explores the cautious yet optimistic approach to integrating Gen AI into legal workflow.

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Key Takeaways

  • Active Listening: Vanessa highlights the importance of truly understanding what the other party is trying to achieve. This involves not just hearing their words but comprehending their goals and concerns.
  • Meet and Confer: Vanessa explains that meet and confer sessions are essential for discussing issues with opposing counsel. These sessions must be live (via telephone, Zoom, or in-person) to be effective, as written communication alone does not suffice.
  • Effective Communication: Vanessa shares an example where she clarified the opposing counsel's request during a meet and confer. By actively listening and rephrasing their request, she was able to avoid disclosing irrelevant information and reach a reasonable agreement.
  • Collaboration Over Adversity: Vanessa believes that legal disputes do not always have to be adversarial. Active listening and collaboration can lead to more efficient and satisfactory outcomes for both parties.
  • Ethical Considerations: Vanessa underscores the importance of ethical behavior in legal practices. Accusations of bad faith or ethical violations should be handled seriously and transparently, as demonstrated by her experience with a recorded meet and confer session.
  • Gen AI's Potential: Vanessa believes that Gen AI will be highly beneficial and useful to lawyers, even more so than other layers of AI technology.
  • Current Applications: Vanessa has seen Gen AI being used to provide summaries of deposition transcripts, which saves significant time and effort.
  • Internal Use: Vanessa is exploring the use of Gen AI for internal tasks such as document summaries and identifying key documents. However, she is cautious about using it for external-facing tasks like document review and production due to the lack of case law and validation standards.
  • Client Involvement: Some clients are interested in using Gen AI for tasks like creating privilege logs and building chronologies. Vanessa emphasizes that they only use Gen AI on client data with explicit permission.
  • Validation and Case Law: Vanessa is not yet ready to use Gen AI for high-risk, external-facing tasks until there is clear guidance from courts on its appropriateness and the kind of validation required.

Conclusion

Vanessa Barsanti's insights emphasize the value of active listening and collaboration in the legal industry, promoting a more effective and ethical approach to resolving disputes. Additionally, her cautious yet optimistic stance on Gen AI highlights its potential benefits while acknowledging the need for further validation and ethical considerations.

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