In this episode of Mindfulness in Real Time, host Clayton Platt sits down with Kaihan Krippendorff — author, strategist, and founder of Outthinker — for an illuminating conversation about identity, mindfulness, and creativity in business and life.

Kaihan shares personal reflections on watching his son discover his passions, and how that mirrors the journey organizations take in finding their true identity. Together, they explore how awareness, curiosity, and emotional presence influence innovation — from “mental time travel” and visualization, to redefining who we are as individuals and companies.

With insight drawn from both Eastern philosophy and modern strategy, this discussion invites listeners to slow down, question their default narratives, and discover the mindful side of business transformation.

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Hosted by Clayton Platt

Featuring Kaihan Krippendorff

Edited by Marianne Sanders

With thanks from Salt Peak Studios, www.saltpeakstudios.com