What if the billionaires have it wrong?
In this powerful conversation, Spencer Sherman - meditation teacher, financial advisor, and founding CEO of Abacus Wealth Partners - challenges everything we've been taught about wealth, success, and the pursuit of "more."
Spencer occupies a fascinating intersection where mindfulness meets money, and his central question is revolutionary: What if enough is already here?
🎯 KEY INSIGHTS:
• Why people with tens of millions still can't enjoy their wealth
• The neuroscience behind "enough" and how it calms your nervous system
• How checking your phone 200 times a day is destroying your finances (backed by Daniel Kahneman's research)
• The "hedonic treadmill" - why first class is never enough
• From "I'm swamped" to "I'm spacious" - how one phrase change transforms your reality
• The 3-day rule that stops impulse purchases cold
• Why your brain treats social threats the same as physical ones
• How reactivity starts within us, not from external circumstances
Spencer shares practical wisdom from decades of working with wealthy clients and leading mindfulness retreats, revealing that the relationship with money is really a relationship with yourself.
This isn't about settling for less - it's about discovering that when you're not pitched forward fighting for more, you're not trying to prove anything. You just show up at ease. And that's when the best things flow to you.
Perfect for anyone struggling with:
✓ Never feeling like you have enough time, money, or success
✓ Constant comparison and the fear of missing out
✓ Reactive decisions driven by scarcity and fear
✓ The exhausting cycle of wanting "just a little bit more"
🎙️ ABOUT THE GUEST:
Spencer Sherman is a meditation teacher, financial advisor, and founding CEO of Abacus Wealth Partners. He leads retreats on mindfulness and money, and is the author of works including the Five Money Meditations and his exploration of what he calls "Money Madness."
🎙️ ABOUT THE HOST:
Clayton Platt hosts Magic in the Moment: Mindfulness in Real Time, exploring how mindfulness shows up in everyday life through conversations with practitioners, teachers, and thought leaders.
📚 CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Introduction
01:43 - The Joseph Heller Story: "I Have Enough"
04:33 - Even Billionaires Want More
07:20 - The Basketball Player Paradox
09:20 - Declare Enough RIGHT NOW
12:03 - The Neuroscience of Enough
18:07 - Growing Up in Queens
24:33 - Two Accounts: Enough Money vs. Surplus
29:13 - From "Swamped" to "Spacious"
32:50 - Phone Checking Creates Fear (Kahneman Study)
38:20 - The Three-Day Rule
45:40 - Social Threats = Physical Threats
52:20 - Reactivity Starts Within
🔗 CONNECT WITH SPENCER SHERMAN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mindfulspencer/
🔗LEARN MORE ABOUT ABACUS WEALTH: https://abacuswealth.com/
🔗 CONNECT WITH MEDITATION FOR LEADERSHIP: meditation4leadership.org