The Preachers Kids PK Podcast (with Jon Groves & Eli Blevins)

One year after the assassination of Charlie Kirk, Jon Groves and Eli Blevins ask what his life, death and legacy have actually changed in the American Church.

They look back at the immediate spiritual response after Charlie’s death, including people returning to church, Christians becoming more vocal about their faith and Eli’s experience sharing the gospel at a Turning Point event where 26 people responded. 

But a year later, has that boldness lasted?

Jon and Eli discuss what made Charlie effective, why biblical boldness is different from belligerence, the importance of actually studying Scripture and apologetics before trying to speak into difficult cultural issues, and how ordinary Christians can use whatever God has already placed in their hands.

They also tackle one of the harder questions raised in the aftermath of Charlie’s death: forgiveness. What does biblical forgiveness require? Does forgiveness have to be requested? Can you forgive someone without restoring the relationship? And what can pastors learn about handling betrayal, disagreement and hurt without becoming bitter?

Finally, Jon and Eli look toward the next decade and ask whether Charlie’s death will help produce a generation of courageous Christians or whether the Church will retreat back into silence.

This episode is ultimately less about becoming “the next Charlie Kirk” and more about becoming the person God has called you to be, wherever He has placed you.

Pastor’s Kids are often expected to live perfect lives… but what happens when they fail?

In this powerful episode of the Preachers Kids Podcast, Jon Groves and Eli Blevins tackle one of the hardest conversations in ministry culture:What should happen when a PK sins?

If you’re a pastor, pastor’s spouse, church member, ministry leader, or pastor’s kid yourself… this conversation matters.Jesus is not intimidated by failure.He specializes in restoration.

Follow the Preachers Kids Podcast for more honest conversations about ministry life, church culture, faith, family, and healing.

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In this episode of the PK podcast, Jon and Eli explore the complexities of church relationships, loyalty, and the emotional toll of departures within the church community. They discuss the dynamics of church membership, the expectations placed on pastors and their families, and the challenges of forgiveness and healing after loss. The conversation emphasizes the importance of processing pain, setting boundaries, and the reality of criticism in ministry. Ultimately, they encourage listeners to trust in God's plan for restoration and growth within the church.

Chapters

00:00 The Illusion of Commitment

02:52 The Pain of Departures

05:14 Expectations vs. Reality in Church

08:08 The Emotional Toll of Leaving

10:31 Navigating Relationships in Ministry

13:13 The Impact on Families

15:49 The Challenge of Forgiveness

18:24 Protecting the Innocent

20:56 The Hope for Restoration

26:20 Leading After Loss

31:13 Navigating Criticism and Imperfection

35:04 Restoration and Moving Forward

Credit to Theos Seminary for the hilarious content !

Leadership isn’t learned from a stage, it’s shaped on the front pew through service, humility, and faithfulness.

In this episode of the PK podcast, hosts Jon and Eli explore the unique experiences and lessons learned as preacher's kids. They discuss the importance of showing up, the leadership lessons gained from early exposure to church life, and the significance of service and responsibility in shaping character. The conversation emphasizes the need for parents to instill a sense of ownership and humility in their children, preparing them for future leadership roles within the church and beyond. Ultimately, the episode highlights the value of character over talent and the lasting impact of service on personal growth.

Takeaways:

Preacher's kids often have unique experiences in church settings.

Showing up consistently is a key leadership lesson.

Service opportunities help develop character in children.

Ownership in church fosters responsibility and pride.

Humility is essential in leadership and service roles.

Parents play a crucial role in shaping their children's character.

Service experiences translate to professional success later in life.

Character development should precede talent acquisition.

Children should feel a sense of belonging in their church community.

The legacy of service can be passed down through generations.

Chapters

00:00 The Life of a Preacher's Kid

02:54 Leadership Lessons from the Front Row

05:49 The Importance of Showing Up

08:54 Service and Responsibility in Ministry

12:01 Building Ownership and Humility

14:56 The Value of Service in Personal Growth

17:48 Character Over Talent

20:41 The Role of Parents in Shaping Future Leaders

23:51 The Legacy of Service

26:54 Conclusion and Call to Action

Keywords

preacher's kid, leadership lessons, church service, youth ministry, character development, humility, ownership, parenting, personal growth, church community

After two years away, the PK Podcast is back—and we’re diving straight into the pain that no one wants to talk about: Church Hurt.

In this raw and honest episode, Jon and Eli open up about betrayal, forgiveness, and the hard truth every Preacher’s Kid (PK) knows too well—people hurt worse when they’re supposed to be holy.

🔥 Topics we unpack:

• Why forgiveness is harder than it sounds

• How to respond when people in church betray you

• How PKs are uniquely affected by church drama

• Leaving a legacy of healing for our kids

Whether you’re 12 or 62, this conversation is for anyone who’s ever asked, “How can I love the church after it hurt me?”

📖 Psalm 34:18 — “The Lord is near to the brokenhearted and saves the crushed in spirit.”

💬 Tell us in the comments: Have you ever been hurt in church? What helped you heal?

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