In this episode of the podcast, Mike Shapiro, chief privacy officer of Santa Clara County talks about whether he thinks this is the year for a federal privacy bill, nudged perhaps by the California Consumer Privacy Act of 2018. He also discusses building a privacy program from the ground up for an entire county, one that comprises so many different government entities (hospitals, police departments, social services) and with them so many laws and regulations to comply with. Then there's the tension between, as a public servant, spending your time on compliance efforts and delegating some time to data-use for the public good.