Lies Women Believe by Nancy DeMoss Wolgemuth is one of the most popular women’s bible study books used in churches across North America. But what does the book actually teach about marriage? About sex? About divorce and abuse? It’s scary, and today Gretchen Baskerville and Natalie Hoffman join host Sheila Wray Gregoire to analyze the harmful messages in Lies Women Believe.

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Check out her books:   The Great Sex Rescue  She Deserves Better  The Good Girl's Guide to Great Sex   and The Good Guy's Guide to Great Sex   And she has an Orgasm Course and a Libido course too!

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Episode 223: The Problems with Lies Women Believe by Nancy DeMoss Wolgemuth

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Evangelical conservatives too often portray masculinity as if men are supposed to be the “Alpha male”—aloof, emotionless, vying for control, and bullying. Today we look at how, even in nature, this concept of the Alpha Male has been overblown. And we present a better picture.

To Support Us:Join our Patreon for as little as $5 a month to support our workFor tax deductible donations in the U.S., support Good Fruit Faith Initiative through the Bosko FoundationAnd check out our Merch, or any of our courses!Things mentioned in the podcast:Let Men Be Men podcasts, and Let Men Be DadsJosh Howerton about Evangelical HoneymoonsThe Desiring God article where Greg Morse bemoans all the safe menThe TED Talk from Frans de Waal about Alpha MalesRick Pidcock analyses the Stronger Men’s Conference with Mark Driscoll’s “Jezebel” outburst This week’s article on turning the other cheek All about New River Fellowship ChurchNew River Fellowship FacebookInstagramPastor Joey Willis, Lead Pastor at New River Fellowship in Hudson Oaks, Texas. Join Sheila at Bare Marriage.com!

Check out her books:   The Great Sex Rescue  She Deserves Better  The Good Girl's Guide to Great Sex   and The Good Guy's Guide to Great Sex   And she has an Orgasm Course and a Libido course too!

Check out all her courses, FREE resources, books, and so much more at Sheila's LinkTree.

PODCAST: Wolves, Chimpanzees, and Deer: Let’s confront the Alpha Male Myth

Church is messy. Friendships are hard to find. Life in a fishbowl is awkward. But what if…it’s worth it? Such a great convo with Stephanie, Jessica, and Jenna about their new book Pastors’ Wives Tell All!

Whether you're a pastors' wife, or a female pastor yourself, living life in a fishbowl can be hard. We talk about parenting, marriage, and finding friends when you're in church ministry. Things mentioned in the Podcast: Pastors’ Wives Tell All: Pre-order Here Get Your Preorder Bonuses Find out everything that’s happening at their website Follow Pastors’ Wives Tell All on Instagram

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Check out her books:   The Great Sex Rescue  She Deserves Better  The Good Girl's Guide to Great Sex   and The Good Guy's Guide to Great Sex   And she has an Orgasm Course and a Libido course too!

Check out all her courses, FREE resources, books, and so much more at Sheila's LinkTree.

Episode 234: Pastors’ Wives Spill the Tea on Church Life—and the search for authenticity and friendship

With the release of so many books critiquing purity culture, what has the backlash been like? Well, let’s talk about it with Zachary Wagner, the author of Non-Toxic Masculinity as we celebrate the one-year anniversary of the launch of She Deserves Better. 

To Support Us:Join our Patreon for as little as $5 a month to support our workFor tax deductible donations in the U.S., support Good Fruit Faith Initiative through the Bosko FoundationAnd check out our Merch, or any of our courses!About Zachary Wagner: Find Zachary's book Non-Toxic MasculinityFind Zachary on InstagramThings Mentioned in the Podcast: Our book She Deserves Better!Zachary's response to the review from Shane Morris on The Gospel CoalitionBob and Dannah Gresh's appearance at Cedarville UniversityInformation about Dannah calling 8-year-old's bellies intoxicatingFred Stoeker's appearance on Focus on the FamilyMatthew West's podcast discussing Modest is HottestJoin Sheila at Bare Marriage.com!

Check out her books:   The Great Sex Rescue  She Deserves Better  The Good Girl's Guide to Great Sex   and The Good Guy's Guide to Great Sex   And she has an Orgasm Course and a Libido course too!

Check out all her courses, FREE resources, books, and so much more at Sheila's LinkTree.

Episode 233: The Backlash from Those Defending Purity Culture feat. Zachary Wagner

We've got such a compelling interview with Lauren Rose from Called to Peace Ministries. She's telling her story--and it's a mesmerizing one--of what happened as her family got more and more into the Bill Gothard movement (and she was eventually one of the ones he allegedly abused, and was part of the lawsuit).

But when you grow up feeling like your main role is to submit, are you even able to recognize abuse?

Lauren tells her story of being in an abusive marriage, and how she eventually realized something was wrong and came out of it.

(Also: at the beginning I quoted a Bible passage and said Matthew 18. I meant Matthew 15. Sorry!)

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To Support Us:Join our Patreon for as little as $5 a month to support our workFor tax deductible donations in the U.S., support Good Fruit Faith Initiative through the Bosko FoundationAnd check out our Merch, or any of our courses!About Lauren Rose and Called to Peace:Called to Peace MinistriesFind Called to Peace on Facebook, including my interview on how Sexual Coercion is Domestic AbuseThings Mentioned in the Podcast: Our podcast with another Gothard Survivor, Emily ElizabethOur interview with Alyssa Wakefield, who grew up in a Gothard home and was groomed for abuse (Part 1, and Part 2).Our podcast episode 229 with Jay Stringer about Josh Howerton's wedding night adviceMy Twitter thread about Josh Howerton's "apology"The original thread that went viral, as well as a Join Sheila at Bare Marriage.com!

Check out her books:   The Great Sex Rescue  She Deserves Better  The Good Girl's Guide to Great Sex   and The Good Guy's Guide to Great Sex   And she has an Orgasm Course and a Libido course too!

Check out all her courses, FREE resources, books, and so much more at Sheila's LinkTree.

Episode 232: When Submission "Cults" Groom for Abuse: One Woman's Story

When we talk about how God made sex to be mutual, intimate, and pleasurable for both, and how, if women don't want sex, the answer is to figure out why, we invariably get people saying, "so you think women don't have to have sex then?"

Today on the podcast we look at the 90% problem vs. the 10% problem. In 90% of cases where women don't want sex, there's a reason. Let's focus mostly on the 90%! But guess what? We actually talk about the 10% too!

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To Support Us:Join our Patreon for as little as $5 a month to support our workFor tax deductible donations in the U.S., support Good Fruit Faith Initiative through the Bosko FoundationAnd check out our Merch, or any of our courses!The Products We Mentioned: Our book The Great Sex RescueThe Orgasm CourseThe Boost Your Libido CourseThings Mentioned in the Podcast: Our podcast on obligation sex, and the post that goes along with itThe podcast where we discuss Emerson Eggerichs saying you can't tell if a woman is aroused--and a follow-up podcast going into more detail on how evangelical writers portray female orgasmMore podcasts on libido: 3 ways to talk about libido differences, and have we made sex into a yes space for men?Join Sheila at Bare Marriage.com!

Check out her books:   The Great Sex Rescue  She Deserves Better  The Good Girl's Guide to Great Sex   and The Good Guy's Guide to Great Sex   And she has an Orgasm Course and a Libido course too!

Check out all her courses, FREE resources, books, and so much more at Sheila's LinkTree.

Episode 223: The Problems with Lies Women Believe by Nancy DeMoss Wolgemuth

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