In this episode, Danny and Leon dive into their firsthand takeaways from the AI Engineer World’s Fair in San Francisco. They share what it felt like to be among the brightest minds shaping the future of AI, why “tiny teams” are the hottest trend right now, and how rapid prototyping tools are changing the game. You’ll hear real-world use cases for AI agents (from meal ordering to personal finance audits), a deep discussion of Model Context Protocol (MCP) and the push for industry standards, plus a glimpse at conversational AI’s next frontier—attaching your bots to phone lines and AR glasses. They also preview the upcoming Commit Your Code conference and cap it off with a listener Q&A on resume and ATS strategies.

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0:00 Welcome & AI Engineer World’s Fair Overview

4:50 Insights from Tracy Lee & Conference Atmosphere

7:00 “Tiny Teams” & Building Million-Dollar Startups

11:50 AI Agents in Action: Personalized Meal Planning & Finance Tracking

15:54 AI as a Productivity Multiplier, Not a Headcount Cutter

20:02 Model Context Protocol (MCP) & the Need for Standards

22:55 Advancements in Retrieval, Augmentation & Agentic Flows

26:43 This Dot Labs’ New AI Service Offering

30:42 Conversational AI Meets Telephony: Easy Phone Integration

34:50 AR Glasses, Voice AI & the Future of Human–Machine Interaction

35:58 Evaluating Prompts & Information Quality: Why It Matters

37:45 Preview: Commit Your Code Conference Growth & What’s Next

38:08 Listener Q&A: Ask Danny & Leon Segment

42:00 Resume Rescue: ATS Tips & Bullet-Point Best Practices

45:03 Closing Thoughts & Next Episode Teaser

Is HTML, CSS, and JavaScript still enough to land a job in 2025 — especially with AI reshaping everything? Danny and Leon go all in on this question with unfiltered, experience-backed advice that every aspiring developer needs to hear.🔥 Topics we dive into:The real expectations for entry-level devs in today’s marketWhy listing HTML on your resume might actually hurt youHow to develop confidence through "evidence"Why AI tools aren’t the shortcut you think they areWhat actually sets you apart from the competitionAnd why taste, design, and judgment are becoming the new moatWhether you're just starting out or trying to level up, this is the episode that clears the fog and gives you direction.👉 Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe if you found value!00:00 - The Job Market Is a Fight — Are You Ready?01:20 - The Cost of Wasting Resume Real Estate02:00 - What Employers Assume You Know03:45 - Danny and Leon Introduce the Show05:00 - The Big Question: Is HTML/CSS/JS Still Enough in 2025?06:30 - Leon’s Take: “Yes, but...”08:20 - Danny’s Take: “No, and here’s why...”10:00 - Why Most People Asking This Question Are Stuck in JS11:00 - The Decline of Frontend-Only Roles12:20 - Fullstack Is the New Baseline13:30 - What Grads from 100Devs & Resilient Coders Are Actually Learning14:15 - HTML/CSS on Resumes? It’s a Red Flag16:00 - Focus on Achievements, Not Basics17:30 - Why TypeScript and Deeper Skills Matter More Than Ever19:00 - If You’re Missing Resume Wins… Go Make Them20:00 - Why We're Blunt: It's About Getting You Hired21:00 - AI Tools Won’t Replace Hard Work22:30 - Designers & Frontend Devs Are About to Thrive Again24:00 - Taste and Judgment Will Be the Competitive Edge25:00 - Software’s Moat Is Still There — Use It to Your Advantage26:45 - Ask Danny & Leon: “How Do I Fit In as a 19-Year-Old?”28:00 - Confidence Comes from Evidence29:40 - Stop Applying for Internships if You're Not in College31:00 - New Blood and Enthusiasm Are Valuable in Tech32:00 - Final Words: Be Unapologetically Hungry

In this episode of The Programming Podcast, Leon Noel and Danny Thompson dive deep into how to get the most out of tech conferences — including unique strategies used at Commit Your Code, what it really takes to build a network from scratch, and how AI is completely changing the developer landscape.

From portable mini golf to prompt cards that kickstart conversations, Danny unveils how CYC is engineered to spark real connections — not just QR-code scans. Then, the duo unpacks Google I/O 2025, including wild use cases for AI-generated video, Android XR glasses, and what companies are really doing with AI budgets (spoiler: it’s not layoffs).

Whether you're a developer looking to network better, a freelancer trying to close more deals, or just someone curious about how AI is disrupting everything — this episode is for you.

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Chapters:

00:00 - Strategy for Building Real Connections at Conferences

01:45 - Introducing Commit Your Code & This Year’s Upgrades

03:10 - Mini Golf as a Networking Tool? Here’s Why

04:30 - Free Professional Headshots & The Morning Connect

05:25 - Prompt Cards & the “Start in the Middle” Philosophy

06:15 - The 5-Minute Pass System for Intros

07:50 - How Employers Are Involved at CYC

09:40 - Leon’s Early Networking Strategy: Never Eat Alone

11:00 - The Power of Volunteering at Conferences

13:00 - Shifting the Focus from Collecting Contacts to Creating Relationships

14:15 - “Read the Room” & Breathers During Conversations

15:30 - Making Conferences Less Awkward and More Genuine

16:55 - Transitioning from Online to In-Person Relationships

18:00 - From CYC to Google I/O: Huge Shifts in Tech

20:10 - AI-Generated Video and the Wild Future of Media

21:55 - AI Search and the Changing Behavior Around Google

23:30 - Real-Time Translation with Android XR Glasses

25:05 - Will Smart Glasses Finally Go Mainstream?

27:00 - Google’s Ecosystem Advantage in AI Integration

29:00 - Why Google Glass Was Too Early

30:50 - Stripe Sessions & Corporate AI Investments

32:30 - AI as a Productivity Tool, Not a Layoff Excuse

34:15 - Freelance Client Discovery: Ask the Right Questions

36:00 - What Makes a $30K+ Project Work

37:40 - From $1.8K Projects to $275K+ Consulting Deals

39:10 - Auditing AI-Generated Code Responsibly

40:15 - Why Now Is the Time to Learn AI Tools as a Developer

42:00 - Final Thoughts: Real Problems great than Shiny Tech

43:00 - Ask Danny & Leon: Questions to Ask Freelance Clients

In this power-packed episode of The Programming Podcast, Danny Thompson (Director of Technology at This Dot Labs) and Leon Noel (Managing Director of Engineering at Resilient Coders) break down everything you need to know to get your first job in tech.

We go deep on:

- Recruiter secrets

- Nailing behavioral interviews

- Technical interview mindset

- Salary negotiation mistakes

- Job hunt strategy

- Real stories from our own journeys

Whether you're just getting started or stuck mid-hunt, this episode is your ultimate job search survival guide—with no fluff, just the actionable truth.

We also share what it's like building free communities like 100Devs and Commit Your Code, why most people aren't prepared for their interviews, and how vibes (yes, vibes!) play a bigger role in hiring than you think.

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⏱️ Timestamps / Chapters

00:00 – Intro: Why We’re Still Not Monetized

01:03 – Do NOT Sign Exclusive Recruiter Agreements

02:17 – Why Some Get Jobs Fast (And Most Don’t)

03:36 – Reflections on the Biggest Guest Episode Ever

05:00 – What Recruiters Really Do & Why They Can’t Mentor You

09:48 – How to Prepare for Interview #1

12:00 – What “Being One of the Two” Really Takes

14:45 – Honest Audit: Are You Actually Job Ready?

17:00 – How to Strategize Your Resume & LinkedIn for Interviews

21:00 – Behavioral Interview Tips That Actually Work

23:00 – The Power of “Tell Me About Yourself”

26:00 – Why You Must Research Companies Before Interviewing

28:00 – Turning Interviews into Conversations

30:00 – Asking the Right Questions (and the Wrong Ones)

34:00 – How to Practice Behavioral Interview Questions

36:00 – The Ball Rolling: Following Up the Smart Way

38:00 – Momentum is Everything (Don’t Overinvest in One Job)

40:00 – The Sales Mentality Behind a Successful Job Hunt

42:00 – Technical Interviews: Think Out Loud or Fail Silently

45:00 – The Real Point of the “Soft Tech / Half-Behavioral” Round

48:00 – Storytime: Danny’s YouTube Startup Interview

51:00 – Salary Negotiation on Your First Job

54:00 – Why Your 3rd Job Will Always Outpay Your First

58:00 – The Six-Figure First Job Trap (And Why It’s Misguided)

1:01:00 – Optimize for the Long Game, Not the Big Number

1:04:00 – Listener Question: Finding Your Why & Your Path

1:07:00 – Time Management & Tech as a Launchpad

1:10:00 – Why You’re Struggling with JavaScript Right Now

1:13:00 – Building Something Real While Still Learning

1:15:00 – Never Overpromise to Clients

1:17:00 – Why Motivation Won’t Save You—Discipline Will

1:18:20 – Wrap-Up & Final Thoughts

In this episode of The Programming Podcast, Danny Thompson and Leon Noel are joined by special guest Santiago, a machine learning engineer and teacher of the Machine Learning School cohort, for one of the most actionable and grounded AI discussions in tech today.

We cut through the hype and dive deep into:

- How AI is (and isn’t) replacing developers

- Using AI as a co-pilot vs letting AI drive

- Vector databases, embeddings, and Retrieval-Augmented Generation (RAG)

- Model Context Protocol (MCP), agent-based systems, and why no one agrees on what an agent is

- The underhyped power of edge ML and TinyML

- Real-world agent use cases (like automating DocuSign workflows)

- Getting started with AI as a developer today — beyond building chatbots

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This episode is loaded with insights for junior devs, industry veterans, and anyone curious about building real AI-enhanced applications.

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⏱️ Timestamps & Chapters:

0:00 – Will AI Replace Software Developers?

0:45 – Embracing AI as a Developer Tool

2:00 – Meet the Hosts and Guest (Danny, Leon, Santiago)

3:20 – Leon’s AI Skepticism Journey

4:30 – Why “AI Won’t Replace You, But Someone Using It Might”

6:30 – Becoming a Solo Builder at Scale with AI

8:15 – Real Examples of Using AI to Get More Done

9:45 – AI and the Power of Prototyping

11:00 – AI Co-pilot vs. You Co-piloting AI

13:00 – Future of Tools Built for AI (MCP, A2A)

14:40 – Shifting Between Developer Modes with AI

17:00 – Intro to Vector Databases & Embeddings

20:45 – What is Retrieval-Augmented Generation (RAG)?

23:00 – Large Context Windows vs RAG: Is RAG Still Relevant?

25:30 – Indexing Speed & Clustering Explained with Spice Rack Analogy

27:50 – Why Grounding Matters (Reducing Hallucinations in LLMs)

31:00 – The Importance of the Ingestion Layer

32:10 – Other Crucial AI Trends: MCP, Agent-to-Agent

33:00 – Defining AI Agents (Why No One Agrees)

35:00 – The Browser Wars of Agent Definitions

36:30 – Overhyped vs Underrepresented AI Concepts

38:00 – Specialized Tools for AI Builders

39:45 – Agents Will Be the Next Microservices

41:00 – Real-World Example: AI + DocuSign + Slack + Asana Integration

43:00 – Underhyped: TinyML and AI on Edge Devices

45:00 – Apple’s Adapter Strategy with LoRA Models

47:00 – Companies Aren’t Ready to Train Custom Models Yet

48:30 – Santiago’s Current AI Stack: Cursor, Windsurf, Tracer, and More

50:30 – Specialized Tools for GitHub Issues, Jupyter Notebooks

52:20 – Fine-Tuning Tools & Lightweight Model Training (DPO, RLHF)

54:00 – Ask Danny, Leon & Santiago: How to Get Started in AI

55:00 – First Project Ideas: RAG with YouTube, Building MCP Servers

58:00 – Easy Agent Idea: Email Filter for Promotions

59:00 – Leon’s Learning Stack: FastAI, MCP Docs, Replicate

1:00:00 – Danny’s Favorite Beginner Project: Alt Text Generator

1:00:25 – Wrap-Up and Goodbye

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In this episode of The Programming Podcast, Danny Thompson and Leon Noel are joined by an all-star panel of developers who broke into tech from completely non-traditional paths. From wax specialists and restaurant managers to teachers and project managers, this group didn’t just survive—they thrived.

We get raw, real, and ridiculously honest:

The lowest moments in their journey

Why failing interviews was the best thing that ever happened

How to navigate the AI wave without getting left behind

The truth about DevRel, layoffs, and today’s job market

How networking, community, and building in public changed everything

If you're learning to code, changing careers, or struggling to break into tech—this episode is for you. You'll walk away with not just hope, but a blueprint.

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0:00   The Truth About Breaking into Tech 
1:14   Meet the Co-Hosts & Guests 
3:21   How Everyone Got Into Tech 
13:14  “Rock Bottom” Moments That Changed Everything 
25:01  What They Wish They Learned Earlier (Hint: Testing & Fundamentals) 
30:46  How AI Is Changing Tech Careers (And What to Do About It) 
32:23  Smart Ways to Upskill with AI 
39:17  Mental Health, Burnout, and Bad Weeks in Tech 
45:47  How to Actually Break Into Tech in 2025 
48:53  The Power of Networking & Building in Public 
51:05  Unexpected Job Wins Through Community 
54:00  Real Talk: The Market Has Changed (And Won’t Go Back) 
58:45  Are You Ready for the New Reality of Tech Hiring? 
1:04:00  “You Just Bombed Your Interview”—What We’d Say on the Bus 
1:11:55  Final Stories, Motivation, and Getting That Bread

qIn this episode of The Programming Podcast, Danny Thompson and Leon Noel dive into the challenges of learning and teaching coding, especially in the era of AI-assisted development and vibe coding. From real stories inside their cohorts to practical Git strategies (merge vs rebase), they unpack what it takes to grow as a developer, the dangers of disconnection as you level up, and why some tools can actually hurt your learning if used incorrectly.They also take a passionate stance on the AI hype cycle, including a fiery response to the claim that “AI will write 100% of code in a year.” Tune in for a raw, thoughtful, and energizing conversation that covers practical dev advice, community insight, and why mentorship still matters more than ever.🔍 What You'll Learn in This Episode- The real difference between Git merge vs Git rebase — with analogies that finally make sense- How to teach complex technical concepts without "drawing the owl"- Why junior developers struggle with AI tools (and how to actually learn from them)- The rise of vibe coding and where it actually works — and where it fails- How to write effective commit messages using professional Git conventions- The danger of using Git GUIs without understanding terminal commands- How AI falls short when it comes to code maintenance and debugging- Why most AI-generated code isn’t production-ready without developer intervention- The role of structured team collaboration in mastering version control- What real-world developer workflows look like in enterprise-level software development- Why companies still haven’t adopted AI — and what that says about AI in the workplace- A breakdown of how to use AI terminals like Warp.dev to avoid Git mistakes- Honest commentary on the AI hype cycle, vibe coding trends, and the future of development⏱️ Chapters0:00 – The Disconnection of Expertise: Remembering what it’s like not to know1:18 – Vibe Coding and the "Death of Excuses"2:03 – Inside the Cohort: Crunch Time & Team Struggles3:01 – Weekly Demos and Learning Through Exposure3:53 – Merge Conflict Chaos: Why Git Rebase vs Merge5:14 – Teaching Git Rebase: Deck of Cards Analogy9:01 – Git for Teams: Saving Points, Commit Hygiene & Strategy12:46 – Push Your Commits! And Why Local-Only Isn’t Enough14:58 – The Merge vs Rebase Breakdown (Visual Metaphor)17:00 – When Rebase Becomes Default: Real Org Examples18:49 – Don’t Fear Git: Every Dev Messes It Up Sometimes20:05 – Learn Git in Context: Work with Teams, Not Solo21:19 – Commit Message Best Practices (And Why They Matter)24:26 – GitHub Integration Tips & the Power of Structured Messages25:03 – Should Juniors Use GUI Git Tools? Pros & Cons25:52 – How to Use AI Correctly as a Junior Developer27:00 – The Rise of Vibe Coding: What Works, What Doesn’t28:03 – Maintenance with AI? Not Even Close Yet29:16 – The Anthropic CEO Hot Take & Dev Skepticism30:29 – AI Hype and the Dev Community’s Trust Problem31:06 – Devs Know Better: Why AI Claims Don’t Land32:07 – Shoutout to Indian Rapper Whankind & Community Uplift32:49 – $25/Week Discord Groups?! Rant Incoming34:03 – Free is better than Paid: Why We’re Building a Better Community35:03 – Real Vibe Coding Test at This Dot Labs36:40 – Vibe Coding Is Fun, But Logic Is Still King38:00 – Final Thoughts on Vibe Coding: MVPs vs. Long-Term Projects39:01 – What’s Next: Choosing Tools That Help You Grow

In this episode of The Programming Podcast, hosts Danny Thompson and Leon Noel dive deep into the art and science of professional networking. Whether you’re just building relationships or in “hit listing” mode to land your next job, learn why cold DMs rarely work—and what does. From warming up prospects with genuine engagement and “nerd bait” to volunteering and shared interests, Danny and Leon share real-world examples of outreach tactics that actually get responses. Plus, discover how to add value in every interaction, transition seamlessly from casual conversation to asking for a call, and keep your network “hot” even when you’re not job hunting. Stick around for our Ask Danny & Leon segment, where we tackle listener questions on maintaining strong connections during turbulent times.

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What you will learn in this episode:

- Networking Modes: Understand the two distinct phases—general networking for relationship-building vs. hit listing when you’re actively job hunting

- Cold DM Strategy: Learn why cold outreach often flops and how to avoid the “ask-first” pitfall

- Lead Warming: Master warming up leads via strategic content engagement (likes, comments) before sliding into DMs

- Value-Driven Outreach: Craft value-first messages that show clear benefits to your contact

- Visibility Amplification: Boost your presence and social proof through consistent public engagement

- Long-Term ROI: Discover why ongoing relationship building drives outsized returns over time

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Chapter

0:00 Intro & Networking Modes

1:31 Messaging Mistakes & Disconnects

5:04 Warming Up: The Art of the DM

12:17 Volunteering & Shared Interests

15:03 Nerd Bait: Sparking Conversations

20:52 Value-Driven Outreach

28:01 Hit Listing: Job-Seeker Phase

37:55 Ask Danny & Leon: Keeping Networks Warm

44:27 Outro & Key Takeaways

In this powerhouse episode of The Programming Podcast, hosts Danny Thompson and Leon Noel sit down with Mark Techson — DevRel at Google and a longtime educator — to dive deep into Angular, DevRel, tech education, and how to create transformational learning experiences. From Google I/O prep to why Angular still thrives in enterprise environments, Mark opens up about his journey from teaching in churches to influencing thousands of developers globally. Whether you're React-curious, Angular-biased, or figuring out your tech journey — this episode will challenge how you think about frameworks, developer growth, and what success really looks like in this industry.

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💡 Topics covered:

What DevRel actually does at Google

Angular’s evolution and future

Signals, hydration, and bleeding-edge web tech

Developer education and breaking down hard concepts

The mindset shift from junior to impactful developer

Powerful personal stories on teaching, mentorship, and legacy in tech

0:00 Intro

01:05 - Meet Your Hosts: Danny, Leon, and Mark

02:00 - What is DevRel *Really*?

05:00 - A Day in the Life of DevRel at Google

08:00 - Why Fortune 500 Companies Still Use Angular

10:35 - Modernizing Angular: Signals, Hydration & More

13:10 - How Google Listens to the Developer Community

15:25 - Angular's Opt-In Philosophy & Avoiding Breaking Changes

16:45 - What Caused the Angular Perception Problem?

19:45 - Rebuilding Angular’s Image & Modern Relevance

22:00 - Transformational Education: Teaching Angular Differently

25:00 - Creating Talks That Change Worldviews

27:00 - From Church to Code: The Roots of a Great Communicator

29:00 - Evolving Notions of Success in Tech Careers

32:00 - Life Lessons: From Struggle to Strategic Planning

36:30 - Impact Through Mentorship & Developer Cohorts

40:10 - Cohort Project Spotlight: Smart Tenant Solution

42:00 - The Power of Being a Hard Worker with a Plan

44:00 - Learning to Learn: Avoiding Accidental Days

46:05 - Teaching Moments: Students Who Were Meant for This

47:00 - Listener Question: How Far Down the JavaScript Rabbit Hole?

50:00 - Why JavaScript + TypeScript Still Makes Sense

54:00 - Danny’s Rant: Don't Just Trust Random Internet Advice

56:30 - Final Thoughts & Farewell

Welcome to this power-packed episode of The Programming Podcast featuring hosts Leon Noel and Danny Thompson with special guest Andy Wong. In this in‐depth conversation, the trio dives into what it really means to be a mature engineer—one who not only masters technical skills but also leads by advocating for junior engineers. They share personal experiences from diverse tech backgrounds (from startups and boot camps to big tech giants like Meta, Google, Amazon, and Wayfair), discuss the art of “two‐way door engineering” (making decisions that are reversible versus irreversible), and explore career strategy in an ever-evolving industry.

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Throughout this 73‑minute episode, you’ll hear about:

• Mentorship & Advocacy: How investing in your juniors and empowering teams can drive both personal and organizational success.

• Career Growth & Decision-Making: The importance of taking risks, learning iteratively, and knowing when a decision is reversible—what Andy calls “two‑way door engineering.”

• Navigating Different Work Cultures: The trade-offs between startup agility and the structure of big tech, including insights into job hopping and innovation.

• Work-Life Balance & Burnout Prevention: Real talk about managing your time, setting boundaries, and keeping the passion alive without burning out.

• Listener Q&A: A candid response to a listener’s question about whether it’s too late to start learning tech later in life.

If you’re passionate about personal growth, leadership in engineering, and practical career advice—all delivered with honesty, humor, and a genuine commitment to helping others—this episode is for you.

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Chapters

0:00 – Intro

1:16 – Meet the Hosts & Guest: Andy Wong

2:47 – Why Andy Was Requested (and Requested Himself)

4:10 – The Many Faces of Andy Wong

6:05 – The Boston Connection & Early Days

7:00 – Mentorship Through Wayfair & Lab Zero

10:46 – Teaching SQL and Explaining Backends

13:18 – Internal Advocacy and Following Up

15:20 – The Senior Engineer's Real Role: Advocacy

18:29 – Defining Seniority vs. Management

19:48 – Startups vs. Big Tech: Myths & Trade-offs

25:17 – Job-Hopping and Career Longevity

26:32 – Startups and the Illusion of Innovation

30:06 – The Power of Risk: Two-Way Door Engineering

33:32 – How Meta Encourages Fast Iteration

38:05 – Personal Risk Tolerance & Career Strategy

41:06 – Keeping Your Head on Straight

44:42 – Avoiding Burnout & Setting Boundaries

46:09 – The Grind for Early-Career Devs

50:58 – The Truth Behind 1:1s & Early Confidence

54:00 – You Don’t Need Permission to Grow

56:03 – Rest vs. Recovery: Knowing the Difference

58:17 – Motivation, Momentum & Being Petty

1:05:00 – Building Projects for Impact (and Spite)

1:08:03 – Too Old To Code?!