The Psychic and The Skeptic

In this episode, Christy and Kathy explore their Cryptid Files and the case of the Deer Lady, a figure from Native American folklore—especially in Oklahoma—known as a spirit of beauty, vengeance, and warning. They describe her appearance (a beautiful woman with hooves, sometimes deer-from-the-waist-down, and occasionally antlers or reflective eyes) and explain a common origin story: a woman assaulted and murdered in the woods, reborn to punish predatory men by luring them away and trampling them. They discuss how multiple tribes share versions of the legend, how tobacco and chanting may banish her in Ojibwe tradition, and how the tale functions as a moral boundary story in societies without formal legal systems. Anecdotal sightings (including tribal police and powwow stories) are weighed against skepticism, misidentification, and lack of verifiable evidence, concluding the legend endures as symbolic justice and community protection.

Content warning: Brief mention of sexual assault at 04:45

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00:00 Welcome to the Cryptid Files

00:31 What Is the Deer Lady

01:53 Origin Story at Concho

02:46 Who She Is Across Tribes

04:45 Trigger Warning and Dark Origins

06:01 How to Survive Her

06:48 What She Looks Like

08:22 Myth as Moral Lesson

11:33 Where She’s Reported Seen

14:19 Modern Sightings and Police Report

16:26 Powwow and Roadside Tales

18:16 No Evidence and Skeptic Take

18:38 Hoofprints and Misreads

19:20 Deer in Headlights

20:43 Powwow Energy Effects

22:36 Apparitions and Priming

25:07 Pop Culture Portrayals

26:37 Global Myth Parallels

27:57 No Evidence Debate

29:24 Legend as Justice

30:32 Final Thoughts and Outro

In this episode, Chritsy and Kathy explore earthbound spirits—souls believed to remain in the earthly realm due to confusion about death, attachment to grieving loved ones, fear of the afterlife, or unresolved emotions. They discuss EVPs as investigative support, including a “Class A” EVP from the Ritz Theater in Shawnee, Oklahoma saying “Are we dead?” Para-history includes a dive into cross-cultural history over thousands of years and they evaluate earthbound spirits from famous cases like Eastern State Penitentiary, the Myrtles Plantation (challenging the Chloe legend with historical records), and the Winchester Mystery House. Christie shares investigation experiences involving earthbound spirits Sam at Kendal’s, Mark in a residential case, Edward at Stone Lion Inn, a hostile spirit at Lincoln County Memorial Hospital, and Allison from “A Victim’s Cry,” and she explains how to distinguish earthbound spirits from transcendent or crossed-over spirits.

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Episode content warning: This episode briefly discuses assault and murder. Listener discretion is advised.

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• This podcast is for informational or entertainment purposes only and should not be considered professional or medical advice. The content is general and accuracy is not guaranteed. Listeners are responsible for how they use the information.
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00:00 Earthbound Spirits Intro

00:40 Why Ghosts Stay

02:18 EVPs and Investigator View

03:50 Ritz Theater EVP

05:29 Ancient Spirit Beliefs

10:09 Modern Hauntings and Relatives

12:51 Psychics as Beacons

17:35 Sensing Earthbound Energy

19:29 Eastern State Penitentiary

24:24 Myrtles Plantation Legend

29:23 Debunking Ghost Photos

34:31 Debunking Ghost Photos

35:28 Chloe Myth Exposed

36:46 Real Deaths at Myrtles

39:05 Why Legends Spread

39:41 Winchester House Origins

42:16 Hauntings vs Explanations

44:27 Earthbound Cases Begin

44:56 Sam at Kendalls

48:44 Mark at Akma Park

55:02 Edward at Stone Lion

56:21 Hospital Entity Encounter

58:58 Allison Victims Cry

01:02:35 Helping Spirits Cross

01:03:47 Final Thoughts and Outro

In this episode Christy and Kathy open their case file investigation of the Beattie Mansion in St. Joseph, Missouri, joined by the API team. Kathy walks through key points of its history from its 1800s origins with Armstrong and Eliza Beatty to later use by the Ladies Union Benevolent Society and the building’s long run as a home for residents in need. Christy reviews common paranormal claims tied to the property and both discuss how expectations, history, and investigation methods can shape what teams report. They analyze several pieces of captured audio and debate an intriguing photograph capured by API. They wrap with ways to view posted materials and what listeners want in future episodes.

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00:00 Case Files Return

01:02 Mansion Overview

02:15 Beatty Family History

05:48 Cholera and Aftermath

08:19 Home for Friendless

13:03 Modern Era Renovations

14:19 Paranormal Claims Tour

19:08 Orphanage EVP

22:41 Whistling and Hey EVP

25:14 Accident EVP Break

27:30 Child Room Voice

31:57 West Wing Walkway

32:42 EVP Q and A Method

33:37 Psychic Frequency Debate

36:00 Faint Voice and Knock

39:08 Music Box Motion Tool

41:23 Basement and Night One

42:15 Morning Bunkroom EVP

44:18 Staircase Apparition Photo

47:44 Skeptic vs Psychic Analysis

53:42 Eliza Spirit Encounter

54:45 Wrap Up and Next Trips

In this episode, Christy and Kathy bring you another “Cryptid Files” with the Thunderbird, contrasting metaphysical belief with scientific skepticism. They describe the creature as a giant bird with a reported 15–30 foot wingspan and its cultural roots as a sacred sky guardian and take an anthropological angle to discuss how pre-scientific cultures encoded weather fears into symbolic beings. They review five famous cases—Civil War “pterodactyl” photo, 1890 Tombstone story, 1890 farmer photo, 1892 Pennsylvania reports, and the 1977 Illinois Marlon Lowe incident.

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00:00 Cryptid Files Return

01:50 What Is the Thunderbird

03:00 Size and Tribal Origins

04:41 Storm Bringer Mythology

06:57 Skeptic Takes on Legends

08:31 Anthropology and Symbolism

10:44 Evidence and Missing Fossils

12:48 Case 1 Civil War Photo

15:46 Case 2 Tombstone Story

22:02 Case 3 Farmer Photo

23:18 Debunking the Farm Photo

24:03 No Newspaper Trail

25:23 Pennsylvania Giant Bird

27:34 Altoona Times Reality Check

31:31 Illinois Bird Attack 1977

33:06 Witnesses and Media Frenzy

34:25 What Bird Could It Be

40:25 Why Legends Persist

43:09 Final Verdict and Wrap

In this episode, Christy and Kathy define “spiritual attachments” and outline types including residual energetic imprints, ancestral or guide attachments, earthbound spirits, and non-human entities, while comparing metaphysical beliefs with psychological explanations tied to trauma, grief, anxiety, and hyper-vigilance. They discuss how attachments may form through vulnerability, depression, or substance use, emphasizing oppression rather than possession and the importance of investigator boundaries and protection. A brief cross-cultural history covers Mesopotamian, Egyptian, Chinese, and medieval European obsession. Case stories framed through hypnotherapy depict attachment-like experiences linked to childhood abuse, survivor’s guilt, combat PTSD, and caregiver burnout that dissipate with processing. Christie shares two investigation-based attachment experiences: “Pamela” from Guthrie Hospital who followed and tormented her, and a Haitian voodoo-related spirit from a 2006 cemetery case that followed her home until removed with help from Native elder spirits.

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00:00 Spiritual Attachments Intro

01:42 Balancing Two Worlds

03:13 Episode Roadmap

05:00 Defining Attachments

07:41 Residual Energy Explained

09:58 Ancestors and Spirit Guides

15:53 Earthbound Spirits

20:12 Nonhuman Entities Debate

22:32 How Attachments Form

25:44 Para History Across Cultures

27:54 Case Study Heavy Presence

33:29 Investigating With Care

37:25 Clinging Woman Case

38:56 Healing Through Visualization

40:01 Dark Mist PTSD Case

43:17 Caretaker Burden Apparition

45:13 Pamela Hospital Attachment

53:55 Cemetery Voodoo Entity

01:00:50 Native Elders Break Attachment

01:05:01 Final Takeaways and Wrap

In this episode, Christy and Kathy launch their “Cryptid Files” series by tackling the doppelganger phenomenon, defining it as an unexplained double of a living person rather than a simple lookalike. They debate whether doppelgangers are spiritual entities, warnings, and death omens, or whether they can be explained through neuropsychology, perception errors in peripheral vision, stress, illness, sleep deprivation, medication effects, and temporal-lobe-related hallucinations. Drawing on paranormal investigation experiences, they contrast doppelganger reports with residual and intelligent hauntings. The episode reviews historical and literary cases. They also discuss modern “doppelgangers” captured on security cameras and video calls, emphasizing technology glitches, and the role of fear and folklore.

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00:00 Welcome to Cryptid Files

01:58 Cryptids vs. Reality

03:04 A Shadow in the Laundry Room

04:57 Residual Energy vs. True Doppelgänger Activity (and the Hotel Case)

08:03 Can Spirits Mimic Us?

11:41 Brain Science Angle: Stress, Sleep Deprivation, Seizures & Hallucinations

13:01 Case #1 Goethe

19:37 Case #2 Queen Elizabeth I

24:27 Case #3 Catherine the Great

28:05 Catherine the Great’s Throne Doppelgänger

28:42 Death Omens & Rational Explanations

29:36 Percy Bysshe Shelley’s Silent Double

33:02 The French Author Who ‘Co-Wrote’ with His Doppelgänger

35:42 Emily Sagée at the Boarding School

40:54 Trench Doppelgängers of WWI

45:23 Modern ‘Doppelgängers’ on Cameras & Zoom

48:15 Wrap-Up: Takes, Listener Stories, and What’s Next

In this episode of the Psychic and the Skeptic, the hosts continue their exploration of Poncan Theater in Ponca City, Oklahoma, They share updates from their latest investigation, revealing new EVPs and unexplained occurrences. This episode features an investigation with their paranormal investigative team, OKPRI. They discuss the impact of a charged atmosphere, various psychic impressions, and mysterious knocks recorded during their overnight stay. The conversation reveals their process, the emotions tied to the theater, and the importance of preserving historical landmarks.

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00:00 Introduction and Recap

01:08 Historical Background of the Poncan Theater

02:14 Paranormal Incidents and Investigations

04:32 EVP Evidence and Analysis

06:12 Setting Up for the Night Investigation

08:42 More EVP Findings

11:18 Theories and Skepticism

21:06 Thoughts and Reflections

29:44 Questioning the Audio Evidence

30:28 Analyzing the EVP Clip

31:37 Setting Up Camp for the Night

32:07 A Mysterious Voice: Stop Whining

34:27 Late Night Investigation

37:24 The Estes Session Explained

42:16 Knocking Sounds at 5 AM

47:10 Psychic Impressions and Spirit Encounters

55:12 Historical Significance and Preservation

56:46 Conclusion and Call to Action

In this episode, the Psychic and the Skeptic revisit their paranormal investigation at the Poncan Theater in Ponca City, Oklahoma. They delve into the theater's rich history, from its construction in 1927 during the Roaring Twenties to its unique architectural features. The hosts recount various paranormal experiences, including EVPs, mysterious voices, and unexplained movements of equipment. They explore the impact of thunderstorms on their investigation and discuss the potential spirits haunting the venue. The episode concludes with plans for a follow-up investigation to further uncover the theater's mysteries.

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00:00 Introduction to the Paranormal Investigation

01:03 First Investigation at the Poncan Theater

03:08 Historical Background of the Poncan Theater

06:58 Notable Events and Figures in Theater's History

21:46 Paranormal Experiences and Evidence

30:44 Analyzing the EVP Recording

32:13 The Mysterious Cat Ball Incident

33:32 Debating Paranormal Evidence

35:31 Exploring the Theater with EMF Detectors

40:06 Unexpected Laser Grid Movement

57:02 Concluding Thoughts and Future Plans

In this episode, Christy and Kathy continue their series of listener readings. Christy, the psychic, provides an emotional and insightful reading for a listener named Janna. Through the session, Christy connects with Janna's deceased loved ones, delivering messages of healing and guidance. Kathy, the open skeptic, analyzes the reading's accuracy and significance. The episode highlights the psychic's role in offering closure and spiritual support, while also showcasing the skeptic’s perspective. The conversation dives deep into themes of family, trauma, and healing, making it a compelling listen for anyone interested in psychic readings and emotional journeys.

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00:00 Introduction and Listener Feedback

02:38 Upcoming Events and Readings

04:21 Unique Perspective of the Podcast

08:52 Starting Janna's Reading

09:21 Messages from the Other Side

20:25 Grandfather's Guidance

21:42 Emotional Validation

28:10 Mother's Presence and Final Messages

31:52 Unspoken Grief and Family Secrets

32:50 Struggles with Stepmother and Childhood Trauma

34:19 Connecting with Mom's Spirit

37:37 Emotional Healing and Moving Forward

43:11 The Importance of Positive Childhood Experiences

47:19 Final Thoughts and Reflections

In this episode, Christy and Kathy continue their series featuring live readings for podcast listeners. Christie offers detailed insights to Shiloh, a listener, on her career and personal challenges. The session uncovers EVPs (Electronic Voice Phenomena), which Christie and Kathy analyze and discuss. The episode provides a deep dive into the dynamics of psychic readings and the potential involvement of spirits. It also highlights the ongoing debate between the psychic and the skeptic, ensuring an engaging and thought-provoking listen.

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00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview

00:43 Recap of Previous Readings

01:18 Discussion on EVPs and Paranormal Evidence

05:34 Starting the Listener's Reading

05:51 Career Insights and Predictions

07:40 Analyzing Potential EVPs

13:44 Further Career Guidance

21:00 Connecting with a Loved One in Spirit

23:33 Addressing Concerns About a Struggling Son

24:40 Revelations About a Reclusive Brother

25:49 Analyzing Potential EVP Evidence

28:08 Guidance from the Other Side

34:43 The Significance of Repeated Numbers

40:09 Dream Visitations and Their Meanings

43:00 Concluding Thoughts and Future Plans