The Psymposia Podcast

In Part Two, the Psymposia crew continues to deconstruct a conversation between two self-described entrepreneurs who recently discussed psychedelics and medicalization during an event called Psychedelic Capitalism with Alexander Beiner [Rebel Wisdom] and Lars Wilde [COMPASS Pathways, Atai Life Sciences]— while studiously avoiding a debate of capitalism altogether.

Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNHX3OIO3-4

Co-hosts: Neşe Devenot, Brian Pace, Brian Normand, David Nickles. Editor: Matt Payne

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The Psymposia crew deconstructs a conversation between two self-described entrepreneurs who recently discussed psychedelics and medicalization during an event called Psychedelic Capitalism with Alexander Beiner [Rebel Wisdom] and Lars Wilde [COMPASS Pathways, Atai Life Sciences]— while studiously avoiding a debate of capitalism altogether.

Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNHX3OIO3-4

Read: https://newrepublic.com/article/159019/break-big-pharma-monopoly-covid-19-vaccine

Co-hosts: Neşe Devenot, Brian Pace, Brian Normand, David Nickles. Editor: Matt Payne

If you like the show please support us on Patreon or make a tax-deductible donation.

**Thank you to our Patreon podcast and video supporters: Reliable Spores, Houston Puck, Dave Hodges, Jon Hanna, James Hubbard, Lindsay Munson, Evan Freimuth, Abigail Bianchi, Meghan Kennedy, Dave Ayers, Darrell Duane, Tehseen Noorani, Tariqul Islam, Clifford Hudson, Daniel McQueen, Maryann Kehoe, Ben Yono, Nathan Espinosa, Annick McIntosh, Starbuck, Aaron Williams, Jenine Innes, Julia A, Jesse Liberty, Christian Dawley, Leon Boroditsky, Samy Tammam, Amanda Alexander, Jason Gross, Paige Hausfeld, John Bannon, Clifford Hudson, Sandra Dreisbach.

Ioan Grillo is a journalist who has reported on the Mexican Drug War and cartel violence for the last 20 years. His books include "El Narco: Inside Mexico's Criminal Insurgency," "Gangster Warlords: Drug Dollars, Killing Fields, and the New Politics of Latin America," and "Blood Gun Money: How America Arms Gangs and Cartels." In this episode we discuss his newest book, Blood Gun Money, which is a look at how the illegal gun and drug trades are intertwined, and how U.S. gun laws result in firearms making their way into black market in Mexico and Latin America, including into the hands of drug cartels.

Co-hosts: Brian Normand, David Nickles, Russell Hausfeld. Editor: Matt Payne

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**Thank you to our Patreon podcast and video supporters: Reliable Spores, Houston Puck, Dave Hodges, Jon Hanna, James Hubbard, Lindsay Munson, Evan Freimuth, Abigail Bianchi, Meghan Kennedy, Dave Ayers, Darrell Duane, Tehseen Noorani, Tariqul Islam, Clifford Hudson, Daniel McQueen, Maryann Kehoe, Ben Yono, Nathan Espinosa, Annick McIntosh, Starbuck, Aaron Williams, Jenine Innes, Julia A, Jesse Liberty, Christian Dawley, Leon Boroditsky, Samy Tammam, Amanda Alexander, Jason Gross, Paige Hausfeld, John Bannon, Clifford Hudson

Ioan Grillo is a journalist who has reported on the Mexican Drug War and cartel violence for the last 20 years. His books include "El Narco: Inside Mexico's Criminal Insurgency," "Gangster Warlords: Drug Dollars, Killing Fields, and the New Politics of Latin America," and "Blood Gun Money: How America Arms Gangs and Cartels." In this episode we discuss his newest book, Blood Gun Money, which is a look at how the illegal gun and drug trades are intertwined, and how U.S. gun laws result in firearms making their way into black market in Mexico and Latin America, including into the hands of drug cartels.

Co-hosts: Brian Normand, David Nickles, Russell Hausfeld. Editor: Matt Payne

If you like the show please support us on Patreon or make a tax-deductible donation.

**Thank you to our Patreon podcast and video supporters: Reliable Spores, Houston Puck, Dave Hodges, Jon Hanna, James Hubbard, Lindsay Munson, Evan Freimuth, Abigail Bianchi, Meghan Kennedy, Dave Ayers, Darrell Duane, Tehseen Noorani, Tariqul Islam, Clifford Hudson, Daniel McQueen, Maryann Kehoe, Ben Yono, Nathan Espinosa, Annick McIntosh, Starbuck, Aaron Williams, Jenine Innes, Julia A, Jesse Liberty, Christian Dawley, Leon Boroditsky, Samy Tammam, Amanda Alexander, Jason Gross, Paige Hausfeld, John Bannon, Clifford Hudson

Psymposia sits down with Thought Slime to chat about carving out a leftist space in psychedelia.

Co-hosts: Neşe Devenot, David Nickles, Brian Pace, Russell Hausfeld. Editor: Matt Payne

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Watch this episode: https://youtu.be/NoIX8Gj30HQ

Thought Slime's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/ThoughtSlime/

Contents of this podcast

Reasons for reaching out to Thought Slime

"Making the world a harder place to have a bad trip"

Introductions / Why we care about psychedelics

Drug Exceptionalism / Criminalization

History of McDonald's mascot, Grimace

Corporadelia

Dose the Water 2.0

What is "Corporate Harm Reduction"?

Psychdedelic authoritarians and the Nazi roots of the term "psychonaut"

Psychedelic conferences and Leftist perspectives in psychedelia

The DMT Nexus

COMPASS Pathways' conflicts

Martin Ball Saga

BreadTube

Parasocial relationships

Cultural appropriation of psychedelics

Public Opulence

Ethics struggles in criminalized spaces

Anarchy /Anarchism

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Reliable Spores, Houston Puck, Dave Hodges, Jon Hanna, James Hubbard, Lindsay Munson, Evan Freimuth, Aaron Williams, Abigail Bianchi, Amander Alexander, Annick McIntosh, Ben Yono, Christian Dawley, Clifford Hudson, Daniel McQueen, Dave Ayers, Jason Gross, Jenine Innes, Jess Walker, John Bannon, Julia, Leon Boroditsky, Maryann Kehoe, Meghan Kennedy, Miller Hooks, Nathan Espinosa, Samy Tammam, Starbuck, Tehseen Noorani, Whitney Joiner.

Psymposia advisory board member and psychedelic researcher, Jae Sevelius, joins us to talk about queer theory, psychedelic research with transgender and gender diverse people, and what happens when political assumptions go unexamined in both research contexts and the world at large. Drawing on the work of Dr. Sevelius, as well as Dr. Devenot and Dr. Ross, we discuss some of the ways that research and social relations reproduce the logic of mainstream culture, and how queering acts as barrier to and disruption of that reproduction.

Co-hosts: Lily Kay Ross, Neşe Devenot, David Nickles, Brian Normand, Brian Pace, Russell Hausfeld. Editor: Matt Payne

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**Thank you to our Patreon podcast and video supporters: Reliable Spores, Houston Puck, Dave Hodges, Jon Hanna, James Hubbard, Lindsay Munson, Evan Freimuth, Abigail Bianchi, Meghan Kennedy, Dave Ayers, Darrell Duane, Tehseen Noorani, Tariqul Islam, Clifford Hudson, Daniel McQueen, Maryann Kehoe, Ben Yono, Nathan Espinosa, Annick McIntosh, Starbuck, Aaron Williams, Jenine Innes, Julia A, Jesse Liberty, Christian Dawley, Leon Boroditsky, Samy Tammam, Amanda Alexander, Jason Gross, Paige Hausfeld, John Bannon, Clifford Hudson

Psymposia editors discuss Dr. Martin Ball's "session info" document that the retired 5-MeO-DMT practitioner sent to Psymposia. Dr. Ball has referenced the document in defense of his practices and cites it as evidence that his clients consented to him touching their genitals or vomiting on them while under the influence of 5-MeO-DMT.

Our analysis shows that this isn't actually a consent document. It sets the stage for what is considered normal, and positions Dr. Ball as the ultimate authority on the subject. It creates expectations which render people more vulnerable while filtering out those who are less susceptible to manipulation tactics and who notice the red flags early on.

Co-hosts: Lily Kay Ross, Neşe Devenot, David Nickles, Russell Hausfeld. Editor: Matt Payne

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For more:

Full "Session Info" document: https://www.psymposia.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/MB-Session-Info-Sheet.pdf

Psymposia video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qabODDTigNQ

Psymposia article: https://www.psymposia.com/magazine/haden-ball-maps-canada-resignation-5meo-dmt-practitioner-abuse/

Martin Ball's 2016 presentation at Los Angeles Medicinal Plant Society (LAMPS) https://youtu.be/PQctOMSmBuk

Octavio Rettig malpractice https://youtu.be/aGJRcb5tRPU

**Thank you to our Patreon podcast and video supporters: Reliable Spores, Houston Puck, Dave Hodges, Jon Hanna, James Hubbard, Lindsay Munson, Evan Freimuth, Abigail Bianchi, Meghan Kennedy, Dave Ayers, Darrell Duane, Tehseen Noorani, Tariqul Islam, Clifford Hudson, Daniel McQueen, Maryann Kehoe, Ben Yono, Nathan Espinosa, Annick McIntosh, Starbuck, Aaron Williams, Jenine Innes, Julia A, Jesse Liberty, Christian Dawley, Leon Boroditsky, Samy Tammam, Amanda Alexander, Jason Gross, Paige Hausfeld, John Bannon, Clifford Hudson

Psymposia Advisory Board member Alex Zaitchik drops in to chat about his work and experiences as an investigative journalist with a critical analysis of capitalism. Alex has covered topics ranging from the effects of extractive industry on Indigenous communities, to the existential need for degrowth, and the economics of vaccine development. Check out Alex's writing here: https://www.zaitchik.com Co-hosts: David Nickles, Brian Normand, Brian Pace. Editor: Matt Payne Support us on Patreon or make a tax-deductible donation. Thank you to our podcast and video patrons: Reliable Spores, Houston Puck, Dave Hodges, James Hubbard, Lindsay Munson, Evan Freimuth, Abigail Bianchi, Meghan Kennedy, Dave Ayers, Darrell Duane, Tehseen Noorani, Tariqul Islam, Clifford Hudson, Daniel McQueen, Maryann Kehoe, Ben ohno, Nathan Espinosa, Srikanth Cherla, Bill Harvest, Annick McIntosh, Starbuck, Anne Sagewood, Aaron Williams, Jenine Innes, Julia A, Jesse Liberty, Christian Dawley, Leon Boroditsky, Samy Tammam, Amanda Alexander, Jason Gross, Paige Hausfeld, John Bannon .

In this episode, we're joined by our new advisory board member Yarelix Estrada to discuss her experiences with organizing psychedelic societies, psychedelic exceptionalism, and harm reduction on the streets of New York. Yarelix shares insights from her formal and practical training in public health as well as her interactions with frontline communities and her personal experiences.

Co-hosts: Neşe Devenot, David Nickles, Brian Pace. Editor: Matt Payne

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Reliable Spores, Houston Puck, Dave Hodges, James Hubbard, Lindsay Munson, Evan Freimuth, Abigail Bianchi, Meghan Kennedy, Dave Ayers, Darrell Duane, Tehseen Noorani, Tariqul Islam, Clifford Hudson, Daniel McQueen, Maryann Kehoe, Ben ohno, Nathan Espinosa, Srikanth Cherla, Bill Harvest, Annick McIntosh, Starbuck, Anne Sagewood, Aaron Williams, Jenine Innes, Julia A, Jesse Liberty, Christian Dawley, Leon Boroditsky, Samy Tammam, Amanda Alexander, Jason Gross, Paige Hausfeld, John Bannon

Brian Normand and David Nickles are joined by Psymposia Senior Writer Russell Hausfeld to discuss MindMed's CEO, Jamon Rahn's, recent claims that his company "may be creating effectively the Tesla of mental health," and that the company is now a "$1B+ Unicorn." Tesla, for those unaware, has been sued by (and settled with) the SEC for securities fraud, flaunted COVID-19 (and other) safety guidelines, and has experienced so many lawsuits and controversies even its wikipedia page acknowledges, "This is a partial list of the surrounding lawsuits and controversies...Tesla is party to over 800 lawsuits." And oh yeah, Tesla's stock is an absurd bubble. It's a bold comparison for Rahn to make, but we believe him when he tells us what he's aiming for.

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