What happens when the church becomes a product and believers become consumers? In this conversation we unpack the dangers of church shopping, the long-term spiritual cost of constant movement, and why accountability, commitment, and spiritual authority can't thrive without being planted. With honesty and grace, we explore why growth often happens on the other side of discomfort and why being planted matters more than preferences.

In this episode, we pull back the curtain on the pastor's role—exploring the biblical calling, the expectations realistic or otherwise, and the myth of the 'perfect' leader that may be doing more harm than good.

In this first episode we learn about our hosts, their stories, and the "Why" behind the call!