In this episode Paul and Werner Herzog discuss the difficult discipline of distancing, reading and cultural memory for a new generation, the fragility of our existence on this planet, and ultimately the importance of sharing of warmth, stories, and music.

This interview was recorded at Onassis LA on March 7, 2020 - just days before our lives began fundamentally changing in the wake of COVID-19. DUBLAB and Onassis LA were hosting the annual Creative Cultivation Salon - where guest of honor Henry Rollins sat down with Paul Holdengraber to discuss the necessity of preserving and supporting independent creative communities. This discussion now feels more relevant than ever as the world reorients towards a next wave of expression in the quarantine era.