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And The Next Thing You Know podcast
Episode 08: The Real Drug Was Checking Out.
Episode 08: The Real Drug Was Checking Out.
In this episode, I talk to my guest, Cisco, about how being sober isn’t just about not drinking booze. Cisco’s exploration of sobriety is no less than a spiritual quest, and it’s a daily examination of how he can be of better service not just to himself, but to the people in his life. We get into the weeds (ahem!) of his story by way of work pressures, sex clubs, racism, trauma, queer bar culture, and yeah, I figure out a way to squeeze in a reference to late stage capitalism in this episode too, if you’re keeping track.
Cisco is a designer, a writer, a musician, and a human.
A correction: the “parable” I refer to about walking down a road and falling into a hole turns out to be a 1994 poem by Portia Nelson, titled “Autobiography in Five Short Chapters.” My apologies for not crediting her in the episode. You can find the poem by googling it, and here’s a cute, short video illustrating it.
Major themes: self-care, psychology, spirituality, sobriety, harm reduction, sexuality, othering and being othered, LGBTQQI culture, alcohol and drug use.
Content warning for this episode - we talk about family sexual abuse. We also talk about youth sexuality, public sex, drugs, alcohol, and recovery.
Patron Shout!
Thank you to all our Patrons for making this show better! Special thanks, in particular, to our Serendipity level Patrons, Emily, Brittany, and Dorian. <3
If you wanna join the NextThingNerd Squad, please head over to
patreon.com/nextthingpod, choose the level of support that works for you, and be part of creating this totally independent podcast. It’s a labor of love, but, still, a labor, so help a podcaster out, yeah? Thank you so much.
We Are And The Next Thing You Know
We are And The Next Thing You Know. Subscribe in your podcast app, and tell your friends about the show on your social media with the hashtag #nextthingpod.
Our official HQ is at
nextthingpodcast dot com where you’ll find complete transcripts and detailed show notes for every episode, all the social links and subscribe buttons, and the archive of every episode.
Full episode transcripts are here
Support the show by becoming a patron!
patreon dot com/nextthingpod
Join the discussion at
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The banana peel is by Max Ronnersjö. The theme and interstitial music are by Jon Schwartz.
Thanks everybody. We’re so glad you tuned in.
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And The Next Thing You Know podcast
Episode 08: The Real Drug Was Checking Out.
Episode 08: The Real Drug Was Checking Out.
In this episode, I talk to my guest, Cisco, about how being sober isn’t just about not drinking booze. Cisco’s exploration of sobriety is no less than a spiritual quest, and it’s a daily examination of how he can be of better service not just to himself, but to the people in his life. We get into the weeds (ahem!) of his story by way of work pressures, sex clubs, racism, trauma, queer bar culture, and yeah, I figure out a way to squeeze in a reference to late stage capitalism in this episode too, if you’re keeping track.
Cisco is a designer, a writer, a musician, and a human.
A correction: the “parable” I refer to about walking down a road and falling into a hole turns out to be a 1994 poem by Portia Nelson, titled “Autobiography in Five Short Chapters.” My apologies for not crediting her in the episode. You can find the poem by googling it, and here’s a cute, short video illustrating it.
Major themes: self-care, psychology, spirituality, sobriety, harm reduction, sexuality, othering and being othered, LGBTQQI culture, alcohol and drug use.
Content warning for this episode - we talk about family sexual abuse. We also talk about youth sexuality, public sex, drugs, alcohol, and recovery.
Patron Shout!
Thank you to all our Patrons for making this show better! Special thanks, in particular, to our Serendipity level Patrons, Emily, Brittany, and Dorian. <3
If you wanna join the NextThingNerd Squad, please head over to
patreon.com/nextthingpod, choose the level of support that works for you, and be part of creating this totally independent podcast. It’s a labor of love, but, still, a labor, so help a podcaster out, yeah? Thank you so much.
We Are And The Next Thing You Know
We are And The Next Thing You Know. Subscribe in your podcast app, and tell your friends about the show on your social media with the hashtag #nextthingpod.
Our official HQ is at
nextthingpodcast dot com where you’ll find complete transcripts and detailed show notes for every episode, all the social links and subscribe buttons, and the archive of every episode.
Full episode transcripts are here
Support the show by becoming a patron!
patreon dot com/nextthingpod
Join the discussion at
facebook dot com/nextthingpod
instagram dot com/soozenextthing
@soozenextthing.bsky.social
Say hi, give us feedback, or send us your own And The Next Thing You Know story at nextthingpod at gmail dot com
The banana peel is by Max Ronnersjö. The theme and interstitial music are by Jon Schwartz.
Thanks everybody. We’re so glad you tuned in.
More episodes you might dig!