Matt Hougan is the CIO of Bitwise, which is a crypto index fund manager and one of the issuers of Bitcoin ETFs. Hougan is a renowned figure in the financial sector, known for his expertise in cryptocurrency and exchange-traded funds (ETFs). In our conversation we get into Matt's initial reaction to the BTC ETF launch, the expected inflows for 2024, and the often underestimated impacts of these developments. We also discuss unique Vanguard's stance, the evolution of Bitcoin ETFs, why Bitwise maintains the lowest fees, Matt Hougan's background, possibility of Ethereum ETFs, and the growing understanding of Ethereum in traditional finance. Finally, we touch upon the centralization risks of Bitcoin, the future of Bitcoin ETFs, and Bitcoin price forecast.

0:00 Intro

0:46 Initial thoughts on BTC ETF launch

2:17 Inflows for 2024

4:37 Underestimated impact

8:11 Vanguard is goofy

9:40 Self sovereignty

12:30 History of Bitcoin ETFs

16:53 Why Bitwise has the lowest fees

20:20 Matt Hougan's background

23:10 ETF hate

26:45 Crypto ETFs

29:08 Ethereum ETF

31:07 TradFi understand Ethereum better than Bitcoin

36:30 Normalizing Bitcoin

42:00 Centralization risk of Bitcoin

45:47 What's next for Bitcoin ETFs

47:20 We're in a bull market

48:40 Bitcoin price forecast

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