The Real Jason Duncan Podcast

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  • 348. How A Meme Empire Became A Multimillion Dollar Packaging Business

    Most people spend decades building wealth — Jason Wong turned $500 into a $15 million company at age 23.


    In this episode of The Root of All Success, Jason Duncan sits down with Jason Wong — serial entrepreneur, founder and CEO of Packing Duck, and one of the most resourceful young builders in e-commerce.


    After immigrating from Hong Kong at age 8, Jason started hustling in the backs of restaurants, launched his first business at 14, built a 30-million-follower meme empire on Tumblr as a teenager, and eventually turned problems he encountered into multimillion-dollar opportunities.


    Jason shares how he made $250,000 in 7 days selling a coloring book that didn’t exist yet, why he targeted TikTok influencers with 500 followers instead of 50,000, and how frustration with slow, overpriced packaging led him to build an 8-figure manufacturing company without venture capital.


    This conversation dives into:


    •Selling candy in school at 14 and realizing the internet was his way out

    •Building a 30M-follower Tumblr network and turning memes into $190k profit in 9 days

    •The Holy Meme Bible: pre-selling $250k of a product that didn’t exist yet

    •Launching Doe Lashes with $500 and reaching a $15M valuation in year one

    •Why nano-influencers with 500 followers beat large influencer campaigns

    •A Christian conversation card game doing $10M in year one from a single SKU

    •How each new business solved a problem from the previous one

    •Why the packaging industry became an 8-figure opportunity

    •Tripling a factory’s revenue in 6 months and earning equity in the company

    •Turning a 12-year Alibaba sales rep into his COO

    •Why he’s bootstrapped everything and never raised venture capital

    •Using AI tools to turn factories into an “Ironman suit” for manufacturing

    •His vision to build a global platform connecting 100+ certified factories


    If you’re an immigrant entrepreneur, building with limited resources, or turning problems into businesses — this episode shows what’s possible when hustle meets opportunity.


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    Jason Wong’s Website: www.packingduck.com

    Jason Wong’s Book: The Holy Meme Bible

    Jason Wong’s Brands: Packing Duck (packaging manufacturing), Doe Lashes (exited)

    Jason Wong’s Instagram: @pug


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    Resources Mentioned:

    Bank On Yourself: www.therealjasonduncan.com/bankonyourself


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    38 min
  • 347. How Cocaine Addiction Led One CEO To Meet God

    Most people hide their addiction until it destroys them — Kellan Fluckiger spent $3,000 a week on cocaine while testifying before Congress, then flatlined in an ICU and met God at the door.


    In this episode of The Root of All Success, Jason Duncan sits down with Kellan Fluckiger, a former energy executive turned coach, author of 30+ books, billboard-charting choir performer, and founder of The Ultimate Life Formula. After hiding cocaine addiction and depression for 30 years while working at the highest levels of government and industry, Kellan experienced a divine intervention in 2007, quit cold turkey, and walked away from millions in contracts. In 2018, he died in the ICU for 17 days — and what happened at that doorway changed everything.


    Kellan shares how severe childhood abuse created the “I’m not good enough” belief that fueled decades of overachievement and self-destruction, his 18-hour out-of-body life review of pain he caused and received, and the four truths God gave him about purpose and mission.


    This conversation dives into:

    • How childhood abuse created a lifelong “prove I’m good enough” addiction

    • Spending $3,000/week on cocaine while running energy operations and testifying before Congress

    • The 2007 divine intervention and 18-hour life review

    • Quitting cocaine cold turkey after hearing “it is enough”

    • Meeting his wife Joy at a Yo-Yo Ma concert when God said, “You need to marry this woman. Tonight.”

    • Walking away from millions in contracts without knowing what came next

    • The 2018 near-death experience: flatlining in the ICU for 17 days

    • Standing at the doorway with God and being asked, “Do you want to come home?”

    • A vision of infinite domains (like the movie Contact with Jodie Foster)

    • Four truths brought back from death: You’re divine. You have a mission. You have gifts. Help is available.

    • Why God said “Because you don’t believe,” when asked why people settle

    • The Book of Context framework for eliminating limiting beliefs

    • God’s final question before returning: “Are you sure?”

    • How “context straitjackets” (BDEEP: Beliefs, Definitions, Experiences, Expectations, Perceptions) limit us

    • Why success isn’t what you accumulate — it’s what you make of yourself

    • His refusal to give up: “I friggin won’t stop.”


    If you’re battling hidden addiction, stuck in “not good enough” patterns, or wondering if transformation is possible after decades of pain — this episode will challenge everything you thought you knew about redemption and purpose.


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    Who is Kellan Fluckiger?


    Kellan Fluckiger is an executive-turned-coach, author of 30+ books, billboard-charting choir performer, and founder of The Ultimate Life Formula. He spent 30 years as a high-powered energy executive testifying before Congress and helping unravel the Enron scandal while secretly battling cocaine addiction ($3,000/week), depression, and failed marriages rooted in severe childhood abuse.


    Kellan wrote Meeting God at the Door and The Book of Context about his near-death experiences. He has hosted nearly 1,000 podcast episodes and now helps high achievers break through invisible barriers using the BDEEP framework.


    Kellan Fluckiger’s Website: The Ultimate Life Formula

    Kellan Fluckiger’s Books: Meeting God at the Door, The Book of Context, Tightrope of Depression, The Results Equation, The Sovereign Architect (and 30+ more)

    Kellan Fluckiger’s Podcast: The Ultimate Life (nearly 1,000 episodes)


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    Resources Mentioned:

    What to Fix Before You Exit: www.whattofixbeforeyouexit.com

    Dubb Video Platform: www.therealjasonduncan.com/dubb


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    38 min
  • 346. Your Childhood Trauma Silently Sabotages Your Success

    Curtis McCullom helps CEOs, founders, and entrepreneurs eliminate the blind spots that have silently held them back since childhood—unlocking greater income, confidence, and personal freedom. Through his LGET Mindset™ framework (Learn, Grow, Expand, Transform) and powerful modalities like NLP, Mental Emotional Release® (MER), and Hypnotherapy, he facilitates and assists clients in reprogramming subconscious blocks for deep, lasting transformation. As the host of The Curtis McCullom Show, he shares insights from top leaders on success, mindset, and personal growth. Your next level is already within you—Curtis helps you unlock it.


    WEBSITE: http://www.bespokehumanpotentialcoaching.com/


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    YouTube: https://youtube.com/@curtismccullom

    Website: http://www.bespokehumanpotentialcoaching.com/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/curtis-mccullom/

    Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/BespokeHumanPotential

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/curtis.mccullom.BHPC/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/curtis.mccullom/

    TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@curtismccullom

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    36 min
  • 345. Plant Stem Cells Reversed Cancer

    Most people never question conventional medicine — Jennifer Payeur rejected chemotherapy with a 23% survival rate and healed stage four cancer using ancient plant stem cell remedies instead.

    In this episode of The Root of All Success, Jason Duncan sits down with Jennifer Payeur, founder of Nature Provides and Divine Health Alliance, a former financial services executive, and the woman who spent 29 years building high-performance teams at JP Morgan before a stage four cancer diagnosis changed everything.

    This conversation dives into:

    1. Why she rejected chemotherapy despite a 23% survival rate and chose plants instead

    2. What gemotherapy is and how plant stem cells from tree buds regenerate the body

    3. Her transformation from toxic and haggard to vibrant and youthful in 9 years

    4. How JP Morgan's customer service philosophy translated into wellness entrepreneurship

    5. Why she studied with 13 Indigenous Grandmothers at the Center for Sacred Studies

    6. How plants communicate with her and "speak" about what bodies need

    7. The biggest misconception about healing: one-size-fits-all protocols don't work

    8. Running a successful company with her husband Lou as CEO without killing each other

    9. Her role as Chairman of the Board for the Metabolic Terrain Institute of Health

    10. Why she wrote Ancient Plant Wisdom and produced an award-winning documentary

    11. How plants are 10 years ahead of human consciousness and adapt to what's coming

    12. The difference between pharmaceutical drugs (block pathways) vs. plants (bring balance)

      If you're facing a serious health crisis, questioning conventional medicine, or searching for natural healing alternatives that actually work — this episode will challenge everything you thought you knew about cancer treatment and holistic health.

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      Who is Jennifer Payeur?

      Jennifer Payeur is a healer, educator, entrepreneur, and founder of Nature Provides and Divine Health Alliance. After spending 29 years in financial services — including leading high-performance teams in the private bank at JP Morgan — Jen received a stage four cancer diagnosis with only a 23% chance of survival even with conventional treatment.

      Instead of chemotherapy, Jen turned to gemotherapy: ancient plant stem cell remedies harvested from tree buds in the pristine Italian Alps. Within nine years, she not only healed herself but reversed aging dramatically — now at 60, she says she feels 30.

      Jen is the author of Ancient Plant Wisdom and co-producer of the award-winning documentary Nature Provides, which has won 18 film festival awards including three at Cannes. She serves as Chairman of the Board for the Metabolic Terrain Institute of Health, working alongside Dr. Nasha Winters to advance terrain-based cancer care.

      She studied with the 13 Indigenous Grandmothers at the Center for Sacred Studies, where she learned that plants are our elders, the original medicine of the planet, and possess over 20 senses compared to our five. Jen now uses her intuitive connection with plants to guide clients through personalized healing protocols.

      Nature Provides offers 80+ single plant remedies and 35-40 custom complexes for everything from lymphatic health to blood pressure, bone health to cancer support — all based on the principle that plants don't just mask symptoms, they bring the body back into balance and coherence.

      Jen Payeur's Website: www.nature-provides.com

      Jen Payeur's Company: Divine Health Alliance

      Jen Payeur's Book: Ancient Plant Wisdom

      Documentary: Nature Provides (18 film festival awards)

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      38 min
    13. 344. Faith-Driven Leadership Transforms Culture

      Most entrepreneurs build businesses, Diane Canada builds movements that transform culture through faith-driven leadership and healing.

      In this episode of The Root of All Success, Jason Duncan sits down with Diane Canada, national TV commentator, podcast host, speaker, and author of the Lady Up America series. After losing her brother to the invisible wounds of war from Afghanistan, Diane ran for TN State House, launched a national training movement for Christian women, and appeared on Newsmax, News Nation, and Fox News.

      This conversation dives into:

      1. How her brother's death reshaped her entire purpose

      2. Why she ran for TN State House in 2020 and what losing taught her

      3. The cost of politics: losing friends, family, and her relationship with her adult son

      4. What "Lady Up" really means: growing up in your faith, not feminist dominance

      5. Her consulting work helping women-owned businesses in crisis

      6. How professional songwriting taught her world class messaging skills

      7. The single biggest mindset shift women experience in her training workshops

      8. Why she's convinced we're living in the last days, and what that changes

      9. Appearing on hostile news networks vs. friendly ones: is being the "conservative punching bag" worth it?

      10. How music, entrepreneurship, and politics all prepared her for cultural leadership

      11. Her upcoming book Lady Up in These Last Days releasing Spring 2026

        If you're searching for purpose beyond profit, want to lead with faith in a hostile culture, or need to know how to influence without confrontation — this episode will challenge everything you thought you knew about Christian leadership in America today.

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        Who is Diane Canada?

        Diane Canada is a national TV commentator, podcast host, speaker, and author of the Lady Up America book series, with her third book Lady Up in These Last Days releasing in Spring 2026. She's a frequent panelist on Newsmax, News Nation, Scripps News, and Fox News, where she provides conservative Christian commentary on cultural and political issues.

        After losing her brother to the mental scars of war from his service in Afghanistan, Diane ran for Tennessee State House in 2020. Though she didn't win, finishing at 46% against a well-funded incumbent with only 10% of his campaign budget, that race became a stepping stone to her current mission: training Christian women for cultural leadership.

        Diane's career spans decades as a business consultant helping women-owned companies in crisis, a professional songwriter who hosted a syndicated TV show reaching 100 million households called Songs That Heal, and an entrepreneurship instructor in women's prisons for four years. She's appeared in battleground states training thousands of women through her workshops on how to attract people to biblical worldviews and influence culture without confrontation.

        Her mission is this: healing America through Jesus Christ by equipping Christian women to reclaim culture, lead with faith, and build movements rooted in biblical principles rather than political outrage or feminist ideology.

        Diane Canada's Website: https://www.dianecanada.com/

        Diane Canada's Social Media Links: Instagram: @dianecanadaoffical Youtube: @dianecanadashow

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        Additional Resources Mentioned: Chisel and Compass Podcast: www.chiselandcompass.com Free Exit Planning Training: www.whattofixbeforeyouexit.com Bank On Yourself: www.therealjasonduncan.com/bankonyourself

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        35 min
      12. 343. Building True Wealth After Tragedy

        Most entrepreneurs chase money their whole lives — Nathan Barkocy was pronounced dead at 16 and discovered what true wealth really means.

        In this episode of The Root of All Success, Jason Duncan sits down with Nathan Barkocy, a real estate developer, investor, and co-author with Sharon Lechter (Rich Dad Poor Dad) of the upcoming book Old Wealth, New Wealth, True Wealth.

        Nathan breaks down how a near-fatal cycling accident that left him paralyzed became his greatest teacher, why freedom of time matters more than dollars in the bank, and how surrounding yourself with high achievers is the single most important investment you can make as an entrepreneur.

        This conversation dives into:

        1. How he went from nationally ranked cyclist to pronounced dead in seconds

        2. The mindset shift that turned tragedy into a multimillion-dollar real estate portfolio

        3. Why old wealth + new wealth = true wealth (and what that actually means)

        4. The real reason most passive investments fail — and what to do instead

        5. Working with Sharon Lechter and lessons from the Rich Dad Poor Dad philosophy

        6. How to build medical real estate, restoration projects, and wellness ventures

        7. Why identity drives wealth and action separates dreamers from entrepreneurs

        8. The one thing worth spending money on: access to rooms with high-level thinkers

          If you're stuck chasing the wrong definition of success, drowning in solopreneur burnout, or ready to build wealth that actually sets you free — this episode will redefine everything you thought you knew about prosperity.

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          Who is Nathan Barkocy?

          Nathan Barkocy is a real estate developer, investor, and creator of the True Wealth Philosophy. After surviving a near-fatal cycling accident at age 16 that left him pronounced dead at the scene, Nathan rebuilt his life from a hospital bed and went on to build a diverse real estate portfolio spanning medical properties, restoration projects, townhomes, and a wellness resort in Colorado.

          Nathan is co-authoring Old Wealth, New Wealth, True Wealth with Sharon Lechter, the legendary co-author of the Rich Dad Poor Dad series. The book, releasing January 23, 2026 — exactly 10 years from the date of his accident — explores how to build a life of purpose, freedom, and lasting prosperity beyond just accumulating dollars.

          His mission is helping entrepreneurs understand the value of time and pursue wealth that extends far beyond money — focusing on ownership of your life, generational legacy, and true capitalism through real assets that produce real income and real freedom.

          Nathan Barkocy's Website: www.nathanbarkocy.com

          Nathan Barkocy's Social Media Links: Instagram: @nathanbarkocy LinkedIn: @nathanbarkocy YouTube: @nathanbarkocy Facebook: @nathanbarkocy X (Twitter): @nathanbarkocy

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          31 min
        9. 342. From $50 in Communist China to Inventing Sight-Restoring Technology That Helped Millions

          Most people never escape the circumstances they're born into —

          Dr. Ming Wang escaped Communist China with $50 and went on to restore sight to millions.

          In this episode of The Root of All Success, Jason Duncan sits down with Dr. Ming Wang, a Harvard- and MIT-trained physician, laser eye surgeon, and the inventor who donated a multi-million dollar patent to help blind children worldwide.

          Dr. Wang breaks down how he redefined success from outcomes to effort, why he chose purpose over profit, and how perseverance rooted in faith carried him from darkness to light — both literally and spiritually.

          This conversation dives into:

          Why he completed three years of high school in weeks to escape labor camps

          How earning both an MD and a PhD made him a one-of-a-kind surgeon

          The moment he chose to donate his invention instead of cashing in

          Why success should be measured by effort, not results

          How his conversion from atheism to Christianity transformed his purpose

          The business lesson medical school never taught him about serving your audience first

          If you're facing impossible odds, searching for deeper purpose in your work, or need to redefine what success means to you — this episode will challenge everything you thought you knew about achievement.

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          Who is Dr. Ming Wang?

          Dr. Ming Wang is a Harvard- and MIT-trained physician and one of the few laser eye surgeons in the world to hold a doctorate in laser physics. The film Sight, distributed by Angel Studios and starring Greg Kinnear, is based on Dr. Wang's autobiography, From Darkness to Sight.

          As a teenager, Dr. Wang faced poverty and hardship in China before coming to America with only $50. He went on to earn two doctorate degrees and graduated with the highest honors from both Harvard Medical School and MIT.

          Dr. Wang invented the amniotic membrane contact lens and donated the patents to the world. This innovation has been used by tens of thousands of eye doctors across nearly every nation, helping millions of patients regain their sight.

          Through the Wang Foundation for Sight Restoration, patients from over 40 U.S. states and 55 countries have received free sight-restoration surgeries. In recognition of his lifelong dedication to helping blind and orphaned children worldwide, Dr. Wang was named Kiwanis Nashvillian of the Year.

          Dr. Ming Wang's Website Links: www.wangvisioninstitute.com | www.drmingwang.com

          Dr. Ming Wang's Social Media Link:

          Instagram: @drmingwang

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          35 min
        10. 341: Why Most People Never Become Who They’re Meant to Be ft. Shawn Anthony

          Most people don’t fail because of lack of talent —

          they fail because they never fully commit to who they’re becoming.


          In this episode of The Root of All Success, Jason Duncan sits down with Shawn Anthony, host of the School of Self Image podcast and a voice for personal responsibility, mindset mastery, and self-belief.

          Shawn breaks down why identity — not strategy — is the real driver of success, and how most people stay stuck by outsourcing belief, confidence, and direction to the world around them.


          This conversation dives into:

          • Why self-image determines your income, habits, and outcomes
          • How to stop waiting for permission and start owning your path
          • The discipline required to trust yourself when results lag
          • Why clarity beats motivation every time
          • What it really takes to become the person success requires


          If you’re building a business, redefining your identity, or trying to step into your next level — this episode will challenge you in the best way.


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          Who is Shawn Anthony? 

          Founder of PodProMax, is the go-to media strategist behind elite podcast placements that lead to seven-figure partnerships, TV features, and high-level speaking deals.

          Shawn has worked with industry giants like Mathew Knowles (father of Beyoncé & WNBA team owner), Grammy Award-winning artist Chrisette Michele, billion-dollar fintech founder Suneera Madhani, and many more—helping them secure high-impact podcast appearances that drive revenue, credibility, and brand authority.



          Shawn Anthony’s Website Link:  www.podpromax.com


          Shawn Anthony’s  Social Media Link: 

          Instagram: @shawnranthony_



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          34 min
        11. 340: From Bankruptcy to a Nine-Figure Company ft. Anthony Amunategui

          He started in a basement with nothing but grit — and nearly lost everything.


          In this episode of The Root of All Success, Jason Duncan sits down with Anthony Amunategui, founder and president of CDO Group, a national commercial construction firm that now builds over one million square feet of retail space every year for some of the biggest brands in the world.


          Anthony opens up about the moments most entrepreneurs never talk about — bankruptcy, shame, ego, burnout, and rebuilding from the ground up. From letting go of his entire team two weeks before Christmas to transforming his company into a debt-free, people-first organization, this conversation goes far beyond business tactics.


          We talk about:

          • Why relentless behavior matters more than talent
          • The moment Anthony realized he was the bottleneck
          • How bankruptcy reshaped his leadership forever
          • Why process beats chaos in scaling a business
          • How AI is changing construction — and leadership
          • What real success looks like beyond money


          If you’re building a company, questioning your leadership, or trying to scale without losing yourself — this episode will hit home.


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          Who is Anthony Amunategui? Anthony Amunategui is the founder of CDO Group, a national commercial construction firm he launched nearly 25 years ago from his basement. Today, CDO Group builds over a million square feet of retail space each year for some of the world’s largest brands.


          As host of The Future Factory Podcast, Anthony explores the technologies and ideas shaping the world’s future—from artificial intelligence to leadership, innovation, and human potential. His interviews blend curiosity with experience, revealing what drives success in business and in life.


          Raised in a humble household, Anthony turned early challenges into fuel for growth—transforming a modest dream into a $100 million construction enterprise and a platform for big conversations about the future. Whether building companies or connecting with thought leaders, his mission remains the same: to uncover how vision, resilience, and creativity build a better tomorrow.



          Anthony Amunategui’s Website Link:  https://www.futurefactorypodcast.com/


          Anthony Amunategui’s  Social Media Link: 

          www.youtube.com/@FutureFactoryPodcast

          Instagram: @futurefactorypodcast




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          39 min
        12. 339: How Focus Built a Global Luxury Brand ft. Larry Walshe

          He didn’t build a luxury brand by doing everything.

          He built it by doing one thing exceptionally well — consistently.


          In this episode of The Root of All Success, Jason Duncan sits down with Larry Walshe, founder of This Is Beyond, one of the world’s most respected luxury event and design houses. Larry’s journey began with £700 and a dining room table, and today his work spans Royal households, global luxury brands, and A-list clients.


          This conversation goes beyond aesthetics and into the real foundations of sustainable success.

          Larry shares:

          • Why focus is the true advantage in luxury and business
          • How consistency beats talent over the long term
          • The systems behind scaling a creative business without burnout
          • Why staying in your lane creates both freedom and profitability
          • What entrepreneurs misunderstand about “doing more”


          If you’re a founder, creative, or entrepreneur trying to scale without losing your edge — this episode will change how you think about growth, discipline, and freedom.


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          Who is Larry Walshe?

          Larry Walshe is the Founder and Creative Director of Larry Walshe Studios, an internationally recognised floral and event design house with studios in London, New York City, Lake Como and Cannes. Commissioned by Royal Households, private clients and some of the world’s most discerning luxury brands, Larry has built a global business known for delivering high-touch celebrations and large-scale scenic environments with exceptional precision.

          Under his leadership, the studio has evolved beyond floristry into immersive scenic and set design — shaping entire atmospheres through flowers, light, texture and architectural form. Larry leads a global team and a trusted network of specialist partners, overseeing complex projects across multiple markets while maintaining a clear creative vision and meticulous standards in execution.

          In addition to the studio, Larry also runs two further businesses: Bloom, a modern floristry brand, and Elite Furniture Hire, a design-led rental company supplying curated furniture and props for events, weddings and productions. Across each venture, his focus remains the same: to create distinctive experiences, scale with integrity, and set a benchmark for design excellence worldwide.



          Larry Walshe’s Website Link:  www.larrywalshe.com


          Larry Walshe’s  Social Media Link: Instagram: www.instagram.com/larrywalshe




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          37 min

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        The Real Jason Duncan Podcast is a conversation about what's actually real. Every guest gets the same question at the center of the episode: what did you use to believe that turned out to be completely wrong?

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