The Real Model Talk

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Bella is a Texas teen model that has been modeling for about 6 years. She started out as a signed model, then moved into freelance modeling, and is now signed with a non-exclusive talent agency. In this episode we will be talking with Bella and her "momager" Tonya to get a parents perspective of starting a child out in the modeling industry. 

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[02:26] (Tonya) "I had a friend whose daughter was modeling and that's kind of  how I started with all the connections, and she introduced us to some photographers and we got her signed with a modeling agency and it kind of took off from there."

[04:30] Topic: Texas Teen Models Official

[09:30] Topic: Bellas perspective of agency vs freelance modeling

[10:35] (Tonya) "Her messages come through my phone and I always check and make sure the person is legitamite and if a photographer asks to shoot with her I always go with her, she is never allowed to go by herself."

[10:58] (Tonya) "If somebody reaches out then we look at their social media and then we always, if we dont know them personally, we'll see if they've shot with somebody we do know and then i contact that person and say 'hey did you like so and so' and kind of get their feel for the person and then we go from there."

[11:30] Topic: What kind of gigs Bella has booked as a freelance model 

[17:40] Topic: Coco Rocha Model Camp experience as a teen model

[26:41] Topic: What the beginning of Bellas modeling career looked like for her mom 

[31:55] (Tonya) "Most reputable photographers do not even hesitate to pay for an experienced model." 

[35:00] (Bella) "I've always been a lot more mature and so I think that's why this industry has benefited me as much as it has."

[35:12] (Bella) "Even when I was super young I would get jobs and I would be working with all 20 year olds and I was 14 so it has really shaped me in really positive ways."

[35:23] (Bella) "One of the things I really have been thankful for starting out in modeling is I've met sooo many amazing people."

[39:35] Topic: Tips for parents that are taking care of their child models social media

[39:43] (Tonya)  "Network and do test shoots with as many photographers, of quality, that you can."

[40:00] (Bella) "99.9 percent of the jobs that I get are through Instagram."

[40:10] (Bella) "As a freelance model, social media is HUGE in growing your career."

[42:45] Topic: Steps taken to protect Bella as a young model on social media 

[44:08] (Tonya) "The block list is long"

[45:20] (Tonya) "Always go with a chaperone, I don't care if you are 17 or 25. Do NOT go alone. Period. Ever."

[47:25] (Bella) "Always put your best foot forward and be kind to everybody because you never know what one job is going to turn into or who you are around or who you are meeting."

[47:51] (Tonya)  "Be cautious and really make sure that you are working with reputable people that are out for your best interest."

Where you can find Bella online:

Instagram & TikTok: @bellafenolgio 

Instagram: @bellasmodelingcloset

SHOW HOTSPOTS: 

[06:08] Topic: What it was like moving from France to Hong Kong for modeling

[23:50] "Its really good to learn more. No matter where you are in your journey, in your adventure, in your life experiences, you always want to learn as much as possible in order to grow further."

[25:30] Topic: The difference between the in person Coco Rocha Model Camp and the online Coco Rocha Model Camp

[33:35] "Even acting helped a lot with my modeling the same way that modeling helped my acting."

[40:21] Topic: What inspired Lucie to start HK Model Camp

[01:03:30] "Trust yourself more. Believe in yourself. Don't let anyone tell you that you can't do it."

[01:03:56] "It's always about pushing yourself and never never thinking that you're not good enough."

[01:04:00] "There will always be someone you can compare yourself to that is at a really next level."

[01:04:13] "You need to compare yourself with where you used to be before."

Where you can find Lucie online: 

Instagram: @luepetit

Website: luciepetit.com

People Mentioned: 

May Musk

Coco Rocha 

SHOW HOTSPOTS: 

[03:40] "You don't need competition, you need collaboration, there is room for everybody."

[04:15] Topic: How to build a killer model portfolio 

[06:00] Topics: How to stay busy and booking work as a freelance model

-Instagram

-Facebook 

-Twitter

-Linked-In

Networking

-Make a few graphics quickly show casing your work

[08:00] "You have to let people know about your services, its not a shameful thing, its just necessary when you are freelance."

[09:00] "There is no shame in being open and transparent with your rates and availability."

[09:15] "People don't know what they don't know and how can your market and audience know when and if your available."

[10:08] Topic: Sources for booking modeling gigs

-Example: DFW model/DFW Photographer 

[13:27] Topic: How to determine your rates as a freelance model

[17:40] Topic: Things a model might consider putting in their contracts/model release

[19:30] Topic: Expectations a model should set with a photographer or client before moving forward with a booking (When communicating about a booking somethings a model should know are)

[31:50] Topic: Model safety and looking out for red flags

Where you can find Kris online: 

Instagram:

@lunarkris

@lunadawncreative

@girlgangmeetup

Website:

www.lunadawnagency.com

In this episode CC and I talk about how she has transitioned from acting to modeling, what the modeling industry is like for her in Canada, and the tools she has used to build her modeling career.  For the tools, CC gives us an inside look on what she uses as a freelance model to book modeling jobs, build her website portfolio and create her own model comp cards. Tune in now to take a peak into what it is like to be a freelance model in Canada.  

SHOW HOTSPOTS:  

[08:37] Topic: Most memorable acting gig 

[11:45] Topic: What is a principle agency 

[14:36] "I want to try more modeling and because I'm not a standard sized model I knew right away that the agencies wouldn't initially be clamoring to sign me so I had to make them want to sign me." 

[15:40] Topic: Sources CC uses to find freelance modeling & film work 

[17:20] Topic: Negotiating rates as a freelance model 

[18:15] "When I submit a casting and I have to submit my rate I will tell them its based on:"            

Whether or not you want me to do basic hair and makeup              

Do I have to have my own wardrobe             

 Travel  

[19:55] "I have turned down some projects because I've felt like it wasn't worth my talent and experience but then there is also TFP projects that I've done because I knew I wanted to work with one of the artists there.  

[20:35] Topic: How having a background in acting has helped her with modeling 

[29:45] "You gotta find your niche, you gotta find where the industry can use you and which agencies are going to accept you for how you are." [30:35] Topic: Tools she uses to run her freelance modeling career  

[46:39] "Asking questions should not be something that prevents you from getting the job its something that helps you to do a better job."  

[50:22] "Don't be afraid to say no." 

Where to find CC online:  

Facebook: CC Print Model  

Instagram: @ccprintmodel 

 Website: https://www.ccprintmodel.com/ 

Tools mentioned: 

For booking modeling jobs:  

https://www.actorsaccess.com/ 

https://corp.castingnetworks.com/ 

https://www.backstage.com/ 

https://home.castingworkbook.com/ 

For building a website: 

https://www.wix.com/ 

https://wordpress.com/ 

For making compcards: 

https://www.vistaprint.com/

Dive deep into the world of being a hand model with Antonia Cheri. She has been modeling for about 10 years now and its mostly been all about her hands! In this episode you will learn what it takes to be a hand model, some tips and tricks for keeping your hands beautiful, and what you can expect when you are on set to model your hands. 

SHOW HOTSPOTS: 

[04:28] "For hand modeling you can be thrown into anything. Sometimes you'll be doing a jewelry shoot and they'll say, 'You know what we want to get your hand on the side of your face'"

[05:00] "You want to be camera ready, you want to have your hair nice and neat...cause you never know what they want."  

[06:25] Topic: Typical requirements to be a hand model

[09:38] Topic: Tips for keeping your hands model ready

[09:55] "I'd say the biggest thing that has helped me keep my hands looking nice and always ready for shooting is wearing gloves"

[13:00] Topic: Tips for posing with your hands

[14:37] "Practice. You want to have go to poses that you can get into rather quickly"

[15:00] "Its the product that you are selling so you always want to make sure that whatever you are holding or whatever it is that you're working with that that is the star of the show"

[15:28] "Your job is to sell, make that product look good"

[15:58] "You want to keep your hands in an upwards position so the blood flows downwards and then you get rid of the veins that are in your hands" 

[17:16] "If I know I have a shoot coming up I'll google who am I working with, what's their vibe is like, let me try and get a feel for the kind of images that they already have so that way I can be prepared and nail those poses I know they like and then what else new can I bring to the table? What don't they have that maybe they should have or that they would want to see?"

[31:45] Topic: What to wear on set (Hand model edition) 

[36:26] Topic: Brands Antonia has modeled for

[52:09] "You can work everyday or you can work multiple times a week if you are really an asset to them on set"

[52:34] "They are looking for someone who is going to make their job easier"

[57:50] Topic: First steps someone should take if they are interested in becoming a hand model

[59:00] "When you're shooting and you're on set a lot of times there could be anywhere from 10-30 people staring at every movement that you do...and that can be a little intimidating...you gotta go in there and remember you're here for a reason, you know what you are doing thats why you're there and just kind of work in your own little bubble where you don't even feel the 30 pairs of eyes on you"

Products recommended: 

Skin Food ( https://theskinfood.us/a/refer-a-friend/redeem/therealmodeltalk/1062 )

Instagram:

@antoniacheri

Website: 

https://www.antoniacheri.com/

Dive in on an entire breakdown of the promotional modeling industry with Kelishia King. This conversation will give you a really great idea of what it would be like to work events as a brand ambassador and how to become one. Kelishia shares the knowledge that she has gained from working as a mascot, sampler, team lead, market manager, and a brand ambassador representing major brands all across America.  All of these titles fall under the promotional modeling category because at the end of the day... a model is someone or something that represents another thing. 

SHOW HOTSPOTS: 

[06:00] Topic: Working for Nickelodeon at the Super Bowl 51 Fan Fest as a Brand Ambassador

[11:35] Topic: What it means to be a Brand Ambassador 

[14:06] "These people are counting on you to get the word out about their product."

[15:50] Topic: Who can be involved in the Brand Ambassador/Promotional Modeling industry

[16:25] "The promotional modeling part is open to EVERYBODY. Short, tall, old, young, big, small."

[17:00] "You don't have to be a certain size to be a promotional model."

[20:00] Topic: Working as a mascot

[24:55] Topic: What is expected of you as a Brand Ambassador/Promotional Model

[28:48] "Doing my promotional modeling, I was getting paid way more than my career like what I went to school for."

[40:45] Topic: Where these opportunities take place

[47:55] "Being a brand ambassador, it strengthen your skills in a lot of things." 

[53:00] Topic: Different roles you can expect to see in the promotional modeling industry

[01:01:19] Topic: Why someone would want to be part of this industry

[01:06:25] "If you are bilingual you have a good shot of being booked."

[01:12:30] Topic: How to get involved in the promotional modeling industry 

Promo Agencies Mentioned:

https://pushmodels.com/

https://cmtagency.com/

https://www.assistmarketing.com/

Where you can find Kelishia online: 

Instagram: @kelishiaking

Facebook: Kelishia King

Are you a freelance model running the business side of your modeling career? If so, this episode is for you! Make sure to grab a pen and paper before listening to this episode because you will definitely want to take some notes. Arris Tolbert talks to us about model releases, tools she uses to run her modeling business and how she manages her taxes as a freelance model. 

SHOW HOTSPOTS: 

[07:00] Topic: What is a model release. 

[15:45] Topic: How to start the conversation about a model release as a freelance model

[16:08] "I have particulars or standards that I have set for my brand."

[17:40] Topic: How to make a model release

[19:50] Topic: Different tools you can use to run the business side of your modeling career

[20:00] "I run a lot of sponsored ads to get feedback and also interest in production companies."

[22:07] "Put yourself out there in a way that you know the people who want to work with you will."

[25:14]"You have to put yourself in the room with people in the industry."

[31:51] Topic: What you should know about doing your taxes as a freelance model

[39:12] "Dont forget that everyday is a new day and you can start over again."

[39:18] "If yesterday was not a good day tomorrow can be different because now you've learned something new."

[39:38] "No one has your look."

[40:07] "Trust yourself."

[40:13] "You are here because of you."

[40:21] "Trust that you can do it and you can."

Links & People Mentioned : 

For model releases: https://www.legalzoom.com/

For taxes: https://quickbooks.intuit.com/

Web Designer: @aminaobuekwe

Where you can find Arris on Instagram: 

@heiressthecurvymodel

@loveandpeace13