In this powerful follow-up episode of Small Talk, Alec sits down again with Tina Sioson to explore what modern leadership really looks like — and why the old ways no longer work.

From understanding Gen Z and navigating burnout, to finding the balance between control and freedom, Tina shares the lessons that today’s leaders can’t afford to ignore. She dives deep into how leadership has become a pendulum — swinging from authority to empathy — and why the real challenge is learning how to lead from the middle.

If you’ve ever struggled to connect with younger teams, felt burnt out from leading, or questioned how to adapt to the new generation of work, this conversation will help you rediscover what it truly means to lead with balance, trust, and purpose.

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