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Most hiring failures do not start in the interview.
They start much earlier, when the role is poorly defined, success is unclear, candidates are not given the right context, and managers inherit a process that was never built to set anyone up to succeed.
In this episode, I sit down with Ashley Herd, former employment lawyer, HR executive at McKinsey and Yum Brands, and author of The Manager Method, to break down where hiring really goes wrong and what leaders need to fix before they open their next search.
We get into why most job descriptions fail to define success, how bad hiring decisions are often design failures rather than selection failures, and why the candidate experience so often promises one environment while the job delivers another. Ashley also shares her “tight jeans vs oversized sweatpants” framework for management, and we unpack what structured autonomy actually looks like in practice.
We also go deep on onboarding, executive failure, the role HR should play versus the role it often gets left with, and the question more leaders need to ask now: should this role even exist in the form we are hiring for?
If you hire, lead, or build teams, this conversation will change how you think about role design, interviewing, onboarding, and management.
In this episode, Ashley Herd joins me to unpack why so many hiring decisions go wrong long before a candidate enters the process.
We explore the real root of hiring failure: poorly defined roles, vague success criteria, copy-paste job descriptions, and interview processes that generate very little signal. Ashley explains why most organisations are still hiring for tasks and years of experience instead of outcomes, future context, and the behaviours that actually drive success.
We also get into one of the most useful frameworks from the conversation: tight jeans vs oversized sweatpants management. Tight jeans managers over-control. Oversized sweatpants managers create ambiguity. The goal is somewhere in the middle: structured autonomy.
We cover:
Key ideas from the episode
Follow Ashley Herd: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyherd
Get The Manager Method: https://www.managermethod.com/book
Follow Konstanty Sliwowski on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/sliwowskik/
For more insights check out www.schoolofhiring.com and newsletter.schoolofhiring.com
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Most hiring failures do not start in the interview.
They start much earlier, when the role is poorly defined, success is unclear, candidates are not given the right context, and managers inherit a process that was never built to set anyone up to succeed.
In this episode, I sit down with Ashley Herd, former employment lawyer, HR executive at McKinsey and Yum Brands, and author of The Manager Method, to break down where hiring really goes wrong and what leaders need to fix before they open their next search.
We get into why most job descriptions fail to define success, how bad hiring decisions are often design failures rather than selection failures, and why the candidate experience so often promises one environment while the job delivers another. Ashley also shares her “tight jeans vs oversized sweatpants” framework for management, and we unpack what structured autonomy actually looks like in practice.
We also go deep on onboarding, executive failure, the role HR should play versus the role it often gets left with, and the question more leaders need to ask now: should this role even exist in the form we are hiring for?
If you hire, lead, or build teams, this conversation will change how you think about role design, interviewing, onboarding, and management.
In this episode, Ashley Herd joins me to unpack why so many hiring decisions go wrong long before a candidate enters the process.
We explore the real root of hiring failure: poorly defined roles, vague success criteria, copy-paste job descriptions, and interview processes that generate very little signal. Ashley explains why most organisations are still hiring for tasks and years of experience instead of outcomes, future context, and the behaviours that actually drive success.
We also get into one of the most useful frameworks from the conversation: tight jeans vs oversized sweatpants management. Tight jeans managers over-control. Oversized sweatpants managers create ambiguity. The goal is somewhere in the middle: structured autonomy.
We cover:
Key ideas from the episode
Follow Ashley Herd: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyherd
Get The Manager Method: https://www.managermethod.com/book
Follow Konstanty Sliwowski on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/sliwowskik/
For more insights check out www.schoolofhiring.com and newsletter.schoolofhiring.com