The Recipe with Kenji and Deb

Sharing an episode of the new podcast Expense Account. We all know eating out in New York has become an extreme sport. If you treat dining out like a full-time obsession—and care about the scene just as much as what's on the menu—you need to listen to Expense Account.

Expense Account uses food as an entry point into bigger conversations about restaurants, culture, taste and how it all relates to life and the world at large.

Hosted by J Lee, food critic at Emily Sundberg’s Feed Me media empire, J has one million opinions about food. But since he wants to hear everyone else’s take, J will talk to chefs, writers, musicians, actors and more. Like writer Molly Baz, chef Carla Lalli, and PBS host Pati Jinich. You’ll hear about their best meals and worst meals.
Favorite spots around the world. And you might even get a peek inside their fridges to find out how they're really eating. The conversations will start with food, but will always wind up somewhere else, because food is culture, and everybody eats.

I’m going to play the first episode for you now. In it, J Lee talks with chef and author Carla Lalli about her journey from Shake Shack to Bon Appetit, her new cookbook, and why we should eat our feelings.

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Note from Kenji:
"Hey everyone. It's Kenji, and I've got something really fun to share with you today. I was recently a guest for a live taping of The Sporkful. It's a podcast I've been on many times before, and it's hosted by my old friend Dan Pashman. We were joined by the legendary Comic Judy Gold, and we're dropping the episode here so that you can check it out. We got into a whole lot of fun stuff, including the state of the bagel and babies eating straight up butter."

Since launching in 2010, The Sporkful has won 3 James Beard Awards & 2 Webby Awards. It's been named one of the 100 Best Podcasts of All Time by Time Magazine for its use of humor & humanity to approach food from varying angles, including: identity, culture, science, history & economics. Not to mention, the lengthy debates on the best way to layer a PB&J. Not for foodies, The Sporkful is for eaters.

In their last episode before book-writing hiatus, Deb and Kenji take your questions, about truly satisfying turkey burgers, no recipe recipes, the correct order of operations for burger, fries, and shake at home, and more.

Deb has fifteen recipes for meatballs on Smitten Kitchen, and exactly one for a meat burger. That does not mean Deb lacks for opinions about burgers, oh no no — she goes head to head with Mr. Burger Lab himself, who has published dozens of burger recipes and guides. Kenji and Deb are in agreement about the one burger type that anyone can make at home just as well as a restaurant. Plus, a special announcement.

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When is it OK to yuck someone’s yum? Garlic and ginger hacks. How to turn your kid into a lifelong cook. Kenji and Deb answer your questions in another mailbag.

Eggs Benedict should really be called Eggs Benedict Arnold, because it will betray any shortcomings you have as a home cook. You should give it a go anyway. (Kenji: “You CAN and SHOULD make Eggs Benedict at home.”) Why? It’s a dish that all but the best restaurants get right, and you have all but three and a half minutes to shovel it in your mouth before the window closes for the perfect bite. So you may as well perfect it at home.

What does perfect look like? Each element is prepared to its ideal temperature at the exact same time. Yolks “a river of liquid gold” while whites are perfectly set (and shaped like a “chaos mop” if you’re like Deb). English muffins are fork split, not sliced. Hollandaise sauce is an emulsion, which means you are trying to mix two ingredients that don’t want to be mixed, so yeah, you are literally fighting nature. Who will break first, you or the sauce? A delicious showdown for the ages.

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Crisp on the outside, custardy on the inside – this week we’re talking French Toast with special guest Christopher Kimball (Milk Street). Chris joins Kenji and Deb to banter about bread for longer than any podcast ever has (not fact checked) – and how each of them perfects this classic breakfast dish. Plus, Kenji dispels a myth about smoke points! 

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In this episode of Oprah’s Book Club: Presented by Starbucks, Oprah sits down with businesswoman, fashion designer, philanthropist and iconic mother, Tina Knowles, to discuss her empowering new memoir, Matriarch. Tina takes readers inside her enthralling life’s journey spanning multiple generations, revealing intimate moments of tragedy, perseverance, creativity, and the liberation of Black motherhood.

In a gratifying and astonishing conversation, Tina details her humble upbringing, her struggles with where she fit in as a Black woman, how she reinvented herself and how she shaped the mega-hit group Destiny’s Child.  Tina also recounts her personal journey of mothering her daughters Beyoncé and Solange, the infidelity that impacted her first marriage and how at the age of 70 she finally feels that she is enough. Tina takes questions from the audience as she reflects on the many moments of strength and wisdom she gathered from the matriarchs before her to pass on not just to her family, but the world.

For this conversation, Tina and Oprah are joined by a live audience in a Starbucks café in Chicago, enjoying Starbucks® Sunsera Blend™, their smoothest, brightest coffee with notes of citrus and toasted almond.

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Deb and Kenji are taking a break this week. Please enjoy this classic episode from our friends at Sidedoor, "America’s Unknown Celebrity Chef". 

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When Lena Richard cooked her first chicken on television, she beat Julia Child to the screen by over a decade. At a time when most African American women cooks worked behind swinging kitchen doors, Richard claimed her place as a culinary authority, broadcasting in the living rooms of New Orleans’s elite white families. She was an entrepreneur, educator, author, and an icon – and her legacy lives on in her recipes. Today: her improbable rise to prominence, and her famous gumbo.