The Reconciliation Conversation

The Reconciliation ConversationDerrick DeLain & Jason DukesINTERVIEW with Chapel HartEpisode 18 | December 17th, 2020

INTRO | Derrick DeLain

BIO info for Chapel HartChapel Hart is a soulful, country music trio with engaging melodies and tight harmonies and beautiful voices who began as street-performers on Royal Street in New Orleans. The group's colorful and contagious energy has flourished into a full live band experience that fills venues at home in NOLA and around the country.

Danica, Trea, and Devyn have an amazing ability to tug on your heartstrings with a tender yet powerful ballad, then have you pumping your fist in unison to the pulse of hard-hitting rock and roll. The band accentuates the three vocalists, who embody the sweet and southern sound of country with the soulful undertones noting their gospel roots. The cohesiveness of the band has not gone unnoticed as they have garnered thousands of fans from all over the world and have received hundreds of thousands of views online.

The trio has a natural ability to make people join together in song and dance, uniting people of all nationalities, religions, and walks of life.

QUESTION 1 | Derrick DeLainWould you mind kicking off this episode and celebrating this Christmas season by singing a favorite, upbeat Christmas tune?

QUESTION 2 | Jason DukesYou are from the Deep South. Your hometown is Poplarville, MS. How have those roots shaped you into the women and artists you are today?

QUESTION 3 | Derrick DeLainYou are the first brown-skinned trio to break into the country music scene. What is a win you celebrate as well as a hardship you lament from your musical journey so far?

QUESTION 4 | Jason DukesWhat are some of the dreams you hold together for your musical career, and how can you envision using your platform for life-giving purpose?

QUESTION 5 | Derrick DeLainHow might you encourage our listeners with two or three actionable takeaways regarding the steps we must take toward a re-imagined American future together?

QUESTION 6 | Jason DukesCan you close out the episode with one of your own tunes?

OUTRO | Derrick DeLain

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The Reconciliation ConversationDerrick DeLain & Jason DukesINTERVIEW with Kaitlyn SchiessEpisode 17 | November 2nd, 2020

INTRO | Derrick DeLain

BIO info for Kaitlyn SchiessMilitary brat. Sort-of PK. Liberty U grad with focus on Political Science, Debate Team, and History. Dallas Theological ThM student. Young Adult Women’s Ministry Team with Grace Bible Church Dallas, TX. Connector of theology and spiritual formation and culture-shaping and politics. Author of The Liturgy of Politics: Spiritual Formation for the Sake of Our Neighbor.

QUESTION 1 | Derrick DeLainLiberty University and partisan politics — THIS IS NOT A FORMER PRESIDENT QUESTION. Rather, can you talk about how your experiences there have shaped your passion for politics now?

QUESTION 2a | Jason DukesContinuing in that vein, help our listeners understand the present political reality as you see it. What is really the issue? Why are we such an un-United States?

QUESTION 2B | Jason DukesCan you talk about how the American Church’s politics are shaped by our habits and practices, of which we’re often unaware? And please give an example of how this culture-shaping reality has hurt the church as well as an example of how it could help the church.

QUESTION 3a | Derrick DeLainYou assert that there’s a hunger among your peers for better and more theologically-informed thinking about politics, AND that the Christian tradition has rich theological resources for this kind of thinking. Talk about the kind of renaissance you’re seeing in spiritual formation among young church leaders.

QUESTION 3b | Derrick DeLainCan you explain to our listeners this Liturgy of Politics — the connection between our political work, our corporate worship, and our spiritual disciplines?

QUESTION 4 | Jason DukesAs we wrap — you insist that the way out of our political morass is first to recognize the formative power of the political forces all around us, and then to engage in ancient yet new ways. What’s a warning you would give to our listeners if the present reality does not change, if we don’t recover historic Christian practices that shape us according to the truth of the gospel?

OUTRO | Derrick DeLain

— Socials for our guest:: @KaitlynSchiess:: wrote The Liturgy of Politics: Spiritual Formation for the Sake of Our Neighbor:: buy her book at https://www.ivpress.com/the-liturgy-of-politics :: https://kaitlynschiess.com

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The Reconciliation ConversationDerrick DeLain and Jason DukesEpisode 16 | Governor Jeb BushSeptember 30th, 2020

INTRO | Derrick DeLain

BIO for Gov. Jeb BushJeb Bush is the 43rd governor of the State of Florida, serving from 1999 through 2007. He was the third Republican elected to the state’s highest office and the first Republican in the state’s history to be reelected. He was most recently a candidate for the Republican presidential nomination in 2016.

Governor Bush remained true to his conservative principles throughout his two terms in office – cutting nearly $20 billion in taxes, vetoing more than $2.3 billion in earmarks and reducing the state government workforce by more than 13,000. His limited government approach helped unleash one of the most robust and dynamic economies in the nation, creating 1.3 million net new jobs and improving the state’s credit ratings, including achieving the first ever triple-A bond rating for Florida.

During his two terms, Governor Bush championed major reform of government, in areas ranging from health care and environmental protection to civil service and tax reform. His top priority was the overhaul of the state’s failing education system. Under Governor Bush’s leadership, Florida established a bold accountability system in public schools and created the most ambitious school choice programs in the nation. Today, Florida remains a national leader in education and is one of the only states in the nation to significantly narrow the achievement gap.

Governor Bush is also known for his leadership during two unprecedented back-to-back hurricane seasons, which brought eight hurricanes and four tropical storms to the state of Florida in less than two years. To protect the state from loss of life and damage caused by catastrophic events, such as hurricanes, Bush worked tirelessly to improve the state’s ability to respond quickly and compassionately during emergencies, while also instilling a ‘culture of preparedness’ in the state’s citizenry.

Governor Bush joined the University of Pennsylvania as a non-resident Presidential Professor of Practice for the 2018-19 academic year.  He has previously served as a visiting professor and fellow at Harvard University, an executive professor at Texas A&M University, and has been awarded several honorary doctorates from collegiate institutions across the country. Governor Bush has been recognized for his contributions to public policy by national organizations including the Manhattan Institute, The Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation and the Jack Kemp Foundation. Governor Bush earned his bachelor’s degree in Latin American Studies from the University of Texas at Austin.

Governor Bush currently serves as Chairman of Finback Investments Partners LLC and Dock Square Capital LLC, both merchant banks headquartered in Coral Gables.

Governor Bush maintains his passion for improving the quality of education for students across the country by serving as the Chairman of the Foundation for Excellence in Education, a national nonprofit education reform organization he founded to transform education in America.

He has written three books, Profiles in Character; Immigration Wars: Forging an American Solution; and Reply All: A Governor’s Story 1999-2007.

Governor Bush lives in Miami with his wife Columba. They have three children and four grandchildren.

QUESTION 1 | Derrick DeLainJust to gain context, and since what we do here is called “The Reconciliation Conversation,” how important is one’s educational approach to creating opportunity for reconciliation and a re-imagined 21st Century American future together?

The Reconciliation ConversationDerrick DeLain & Jason DukesEpisode 15 | September 23rd, 2020Special Guest Ruth Naomi Floyd

INTRO | Derrick DeLain

BIO info for Ruth Naomi Floyd, Emancipatory ArtistA vocalist and composer, Ruth Naomi Floyd has created a discography dedicated to a sacred jazz expression. She has been at the forefront of creating vocal jazz settings that express theology and justice for over 25 years. She leads her own multi-faceted ensemble and her recordings consist primarily of original compositions. Blessed with a soaring mezzo-soprano voice, critics praise Ms. Floyd’s music for its distinctive sound of progressive ensemble jazz that is seamlessly blended with messages of hope, faith, redemption, and love. Ms. Floyd has recorded and performed with such notable instrumentalists as James Newton, James Weidman, Gary Thomas, John Patitucci, Terri Lyne Carrington, George Cables, Bobby Watson, Aaron Graves, Matthew Parrish, Mark Prince, Byron Lanham, Bryan Carrot, Uri Caine, Craig Handy and many more.

Ms. Floyd has been a presence and worker in areas of the arts and justice throughout her and career. She has lectured prolifically on the intersection of beauty, theology, justice, culture, and the arts at numerous universities, seminaries, conferences, and academic settings in the United Kingdom, Europe, Africa, Latin America, and Asia.

A committed music educator, Ms. Floyd is Director of Jazz Studies at Cairn University, Langhorne, Pennsylvania and an Adjunct and Artist in Residence at Temple University. Previously, Ms. Floyd taught music for twenty 20 years at The City School.

Ms. Floyd’s recent compositions include “Freedom” which premiered in April 2018 in Wales, United Kingdom. Commissioned in honor of human rights activist, “Freedom” is Mende Nazer’s profound story of survival as a slave in Sudan and London. In the centennial year of Leonard Bernstein’s birth, Philadelphia’s Mann Music Center, in partnership with NEWorks Productions, commissioned Ms. Floyd as one of four composers to create a community mass inspired by Bernstein’s MASS, that explores anew the relevance of faith in our times. The Frederick Douglass Jazz Works is Ms. Floyd’s new body of compositions based on the speeches and writings of the great leading orator, abolitionist, writer, publisher, and statesman.

Ms. Floyd is also an award winning fine art photographer specializing in black and white portrait images. She uses silver based films with 35mm and 4x5 inch view cameras to capture her images and uses traditional wet darkroom technology as well as digital printing on archival papers to produce her final images. Ms. Floyd has received awards, prizes, and grants for her photographic images and her work is included in permanent and private collections. Ms. Floyd’s photographic images have been published in and on the covers of magazines, brochures, and music compact discs.

Ms. Floyd was awarded the prestigious Kimmel Center’s Jazz Residency for the 2019-2020 season. In December 2019, Concordia College - New York, awarded Ms. Floyd an Honorary Doctorate for her unique and valuable contribution to the arts, her commitment to music education, and her justice work.

Ms. Floyd continues to make the city of Philadelphia her home, where for over twenty-five years she has been devoted and active in providing compassionate care and spiritual support to people infected and affected by HIV and AIDS in Philadelphia and Africa.

QUESTION 1 | Derrick DeLainMs. Floyd, you have been at the forefront of creating the beautiful chaos of jazz that expresses theology and justice for over 25 years. What originally moved you to want to do this?

QUESTION 2 | J

The Reconciliation ConversationDerrick DeLain & Jason Dukeswith special guest Reconcile

Episode 14September 16th, 2020

 

INTRO | Derrick DeLain

 

BIO info for RECONCILEaka Ronnie Lillard is from Fort Myers, FL. He was abandoned by his mom, left to be raised by his dad. Football unfulfilling, rebellion gone empty, and the loss of his grandfather led him to a season of awakening. Jesus used Pastor David Estrada to offer Ronnie a life-altering opportunity. Being mentored and serving in his community led him back to football, which afforded him the chance to get an education at Rice University in Houston, TX. There, he moved into the 3rd Ward and started mentoring inner-city kids. He graduated from Rice with a degree in Religious Studies, Philosophy, and Sociology. Around that same time, he launched into hip hop, going agains the stream with raw, unapologetic, meaningful music, which has been chart-topping on multiple platforms. He serves in his native Miami as an inner-city mentor, an outspoken activist for prison reform, and an advocate for juvenile justice and recidivism on the Miami Circuit Advisory Board. Reconcile is a father of five of his own children and a spiritual father to lots of other children, as he champions the forgotten while living close enough for them to taste and see the hope he found with Jesus.

 

STORY FROM HIS WEBSITE:

He was born bound within the gritty landscape of chalked lines. In the middle of his childhood, he suffered his first loss when he was abandoned by his mother and left to be raised by his father in Fort Myers better known as “Little Pakistan.” Despair and poverty were bedfellows and gun shots were more frequent than thunderstorms. Prior to becoming a teen, the message was resoundingly clear. The soundtrack to his life then was “murder rap”, Ronnie survived the culture. Unshaken by the harsh realities, of which he inherited, he succumbed to his surroundings: depleted resources, constant trauma, family disfunction, incarceration, violence, dreads, gold teeth, drugs and firearms. South Florida.

 

Seventeen years his senior, Ronnie’s dad believed that the only outlet to overcome poverty was for his son to pursue football. This was plan A thru Z. Fueled by his own curriculum of delinquency this behavior was in direct conflict with his father’s wish to stay focused and see the dream to its end. Unwilling to concede, at 15, fistfights ensued and Ronnie found himself homeless in the middle of the night. Now free from his father’s roof and expectations, he used his freedom to catapult himself into the nightmare his father tried to avoid. Inasmuch as his grandfather tried to provide him guidance, he let his inner voids guide him and soon found himself truly by himself. The death of his grandfather began the process of his awakening. Like most who lose someone they love, in the immediacy of pain he had immature words with God. Although the loss gave him pause, an unexpected encounter with Jesus had the greatest impact upon his life.

 

Having been court ordered community service while on probation, he sought for an opportunity to fulfill his obligation. At a church in his neighborhood, where he had frequented during the late hours of the night to play basketball on a double rim with half of a backboard. It was there that he met Pastor David Estrada. Estrada was willing to give him the hours that he needed for the exchange of attending bible study and doing odd jobs around the church. Which proved to be just an opportunity for Estrada to impart on Ronnie mentorship and guidance. In the time shared, Ronnie was most struck by the cross of Jesus Christ. It inspired him to want to change his lifestyle and develop a deeper connection spiritually. Although he felt an im

The Reconciliation ConversationDerrick DeLain & Jason Dukeswith special guest Dr. Lucretia BerryRecorded August 18th, 2020Episode 13 September 2nd, 2020

INTRO | Derrick DeLain

BIO info for Dr. Lucretia BerryDr. Lucretia Berry is an anti-race/ism curriculum specialist, a writer for in(Courage).me, the author of What LIES Between US Journal & Guide: Fostering First Steps Toward Racial Healing, a TED Talker, and a Senior Consultant for The American Dream Game. She received her Ph.D. in Education (Curriculum & Instruction) from Iowa State University. She is married to Nathan, and they have three little girls who are the inspiration for Brownicity.

THE STORY of Nathan and Lucretia Berry:Beyond our bios, we are a white guy and a black woman who are parents to 3 multi-ethnic children. Eradicating deeply intrenched racial, social and cultural lines to integrate a church served as the backdrop for our friendship and then marriage. Its quite a story!

For us, we are intentional about not allowing race to narrate our identity and our lives. We want the same for our children. However, and ironically, it means that we address issues surrounding race, probably more than the average family. Why? When race is addressed in the context of love, it loses its power. We want to empower our children with the truth. We want them to be free to be who they are designed to be, to hear the voice of their Creator over any social-political construct.

That way, we are able to celebrate our 5 different skin tones, 5 different hair textures outside of a race context. And we are able to talk about the creation and illusion of race, referring to it as a horrible idea. Our children are still really young, so our conversations are age appropriate. But, we have established a foundation on which to build.

Essentially, we love being a part of the work of becoming ONE.

“I am praying not only for these disciples but also for all who will ever believe in me through their message. I pray that they will all be one, just as you and I are one—as you are in me, Father, and I am in you. And may they be in us so that the world will believe you sent me.”(John 17: 20-21)

***ABOUT “brownicity”***A combination of the words brown and ethnicity. Brown represents melanin, the brown pigment we all have. Ethnicity means that which we have in common. Essentially, we all are hues of brown. Brownicity — The word and the work provides space to live in the tension of restoring one human family that has been fractured by the lies and injustice of race and racism. We are dedicated to advocacy, education, and support for racial healing and antiracism.

QUESTION 1 | Derrick DeLainLet’s start with what is most important — what’s it like being a mom in this current tension, and what do you hope your kids remember from their childhood with regard to what their mom emphasized the most?

QUESTION 2 | Jason Dukes“Many hues. ONE humanity.” What inspired “Brownicity?

QUESTION 3a | Derrick DeLainWhat are three essentials you view as “musts” when you engage in “teaching foundational anti-racism education for liberation?”

QUESTION 3b | Jason DukesTalk about why educating the family and children is so important to you.

QUESTION 4 | Jason DukesYou are a brilliant leader who happens to be female — what do you wish more male leaders were thinking about when it comes to cultivating for reconciliation and a new American reality for people of all colors?

QUESTION 5 | Derrick DeLainWrapping up, what are one or two simple suggestions you w

The Reconciliation Conversation | Derrick DeLain & Jason Dukeswith guests Mika Edmondson & Scott SaulsRecording August 12th, 2020 10:00AM CentralEpisode to be published August 26th, 2020

INTRO | Derrick DeLain

BIO info for Mika Edmondson and Scott Sauls

Mika Edmondson — Dr. Edmondson and his wife, Dr. Christina Edmondson, have two daughters. They recently relocated from Grand Rapids, Michigan where Mika had served as founding Pastor of New City Fellowship. Mika earned his Doctorate at Calvin Theological Seminary, with his dissertation entitled “Unearned Suffering is Redemptive: The Roots and Implications of Martin Luther King, Jr.'s Redemptive Suffering Theodicy.” Mika was the first African American to receive a Ph.D. from Calvin, where he also contributed as an Adjunct Professor. He earned his Master of Divinity degree from Vanderbilt Divinity School, and a Bachelor of Science in Applied Physics at Hampton University.

Scott Sauls is Patti’s husband and Abby and Ellie’s dad. He is pastor of Christ Pres Nashville. He’s an INFJ on the Myers-Briggs and Enneagram 4 wing 3. Scott served with Tim Keller with Redeemer Pres NYC and started churches in KC and St. Louis. He is the author of five books including his latest — A Gentle Answer: Our Secret Weapon in an Age of Us Against Them. He blogs at ScottSauls.com. He’s also a UNC Tar Heel fan, which we will ignore for the purposes of allowing him on this episode with us.

QUESTION 1 | Derrick DeLainFor Mika — in your own words, you said, “There are a host of scriptures that reveal God’s gospel determination to unite a diversity of people in Christ for the sake of his glory and worship.” As two black men who both serve as pastors in majority white environments, help our listeners understand why the current protests as well as this reconciliation conversation is so crucial for the Church here in America.

QUESTION 2 | Jason DukesFor both of you — Christ Pres recently brought Mika on team. First, y’all talk about what excites you about serving together. Secondly, talk about whether you think having leaders from different backgrounds is vital to a healthy church.

QUESTION 3 | Derrick DeLainFor Mika — Scott lists Tim Keller, CS Lewis, Leslie Newbigin, Soong Chan Rah, Dorothy Sayers, Jonathan Edwards, Joni Eareckson Tada, Miroslav Volf, Paul Tripp, Ann Voskamp, Martin Luther King, Jr., Dorothy Sayers, and NT Wright as influential voices in his life. Highlight a couple of voices who have been influential in yours and talk about how they’ve influenced you, especially in the context of this conversation.

QUESTION 4 | Jason DukesFor Scott — but Mika feel free to jump in to add anything — Scott, you highlight your Myers-Briggs and Enneagram in your Instagram profile. You have battled with depression and anxiety and written vulnerably and beautifully about it, which I personally so appreciate, as someone who battles with depression, too. Talk about how much self-awareness plays a part in our quest to see reconciliation and on Earth as it is in Heaven.

QUESTION 5 | Derrick DeLainFor both of you — Mike, in regard to your book on unearned suffering and Scott, in regard to your new book A Gentle Answer, talk about what you hope readers wrestle with the most upon reading what you’ve written.

QUESTION 6 | Jason DukesFor both of you — what’s the one thing you would encourage someone to seek to become or strive to do right now who desires to take either a new step or a next step to cultivate for reconciliation and oneness?

OUTRO | Derrick DeLain

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The RECONCILIATION CONVERSATIONEpisode 11 | August 19th, 2020Interview with Dorena Williamson

INTRO | Derrick DeLain

BIO for Mrs. WilliamsonDorena Williamson is a Preacher’s kid, “First Lady,” and a veteran of cross-cultural ministry. In 1995, she and her husband planted Strong Tower Bible Church, a faith community in Nashville that celebrates the beauty of God’s diverse kingdom.

She “writes kids books that adults need, too” and is a member of the Society of Children’s Book Writers and Illustrators. She is the author of ColorFull, ThoughtFull, and GraceFull, children’s books with B&H Kids that feature diverse ethnicity and shape perspective on race, disability and homelessness. As a longtime bridge builder and mother of four, she is passionate about planting seeds of truth for the next generation.

She is also a “stylist” with @evereveofficial. You can learn more about her at dorenawilliamson.com.

QUESTION 1 | Derrick DeLainYou are a mother of 4. Can you share some of the highlights and lowlights from the formative conversations you’ve had with your kids about diversity and racism and the need for reconciliation?

QUESTION 2 | Jason DukesColorFull is one of the children’s books you’ve written. I want to read an excerpt from it so our listeners can hear a little bit of what you’re writing about. Then, can you talk about why this book and more like it are needed to help children see the life-giving beauty of diversity in community?

QUESTION 3 | Derrick DeLainYou’re clearly entrepreneurial. You helped start a local church. You help as a stylist with @evereveofficial. You’ve written three kids books. Why start these things? Can you (a) share a bit about the culture of Strong Tower Bible Church and (b) the purpose of Ever Eve Official in order to help our listeners understand why it may be necessary to imagine and create new environments and opportunities in order to see a re-imagined American future together

QUESTION 4 | Jason DukesAs we wrap up, what would you suggest as both a new step and a next step for someone wanting to cultivate for reconciliation and oneness together? How can we become more ColorFull, ThoughtFull, and GraceFull together?

OUTRO | Derrick DeLain

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The Reconciliation ConversationEpisode 10with special guest Justin Giboney

INTRO | Derrick DeLain

BIO for Justin GiboneyChristian. Husband. Father. Attorney. Political Strategist. Co-Founder of The AND Campaign. Co-Author of Compassion and Conviction. Co-Host of The Church & Politics Podcast.

QUESTION 1A | Derrick DeLainIn America right now, we are divided. We are polarized. We are either/or. There is not much “AND.” What sub-cultures of America have to desire change in order for the culture at large to move toward reconciliation and unity together?

QUESTION 1B | Derrick DeLainWhat about the “sub-culture” within each of us — what about the change needed in each of us?

QUESTION 2A | Jason DukesLet’s talk about politics. Isn’t the political party system as we currently know it broken? What is the future, in your opinion, when it comes to politics and parties? And what are the ruts we are stuck in that might need to be challenged?

QUESTION 2B | Jason DukesWould you ever run for office?

QUESTION 3A | Derrick DeLainWhat is the AND Campaign and why is it needed?

QUESTION 3B | Derrick DeLainWe recommend and reviewed your book! Give the premise of Compassion and Conviction? Why did you write it — what do you hope people do as a result of reading it?

QUESTION 4 | Jason DukesWhat are one or two simple suggestions you’d offer individuals listening who want to take a new step or a next step toward reconciliation and healing and oneness in our country?

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INTERVIEW with Janice GainesThe Reconciliation Conversation Episode 9 August 5th, 2020

 

INTRO | Derrick DeLain

 

BIO for Janice Gaines

Janice is a believer, wife to @ejgaines (previous guest on The Reconciliation Conversation), a boy mom, a singer/songwriter, and a speaker and teacher. She recently released the three-song collection “All in Control.” And she gets real excited about the chance to teach “Braving the Deep: A Training for Church on Kingdom Diversity and Reconciliation.”

 

QUESTION 1 | Derrick DeLainLet’s jump right in. As a boy mom, what scares you about raising two brown-skinned boys in America? Along with that, though, what gives you hope in this current moment? 

 

QUESTION 2 | Jason DukesYou sing. You write. You teach. What inspires you? And from what you create, what actions do you hope will be inspired in others? 

 

QUESTION 3 | Derrick DeLainTalk about “Braving the Deep: A Training for Church in Kingdom Diversity and Reconciliation.” First, if someone wanted to ask you to come train their church leaders, how would they do that? Next, what drove you to want to provide this training? And finally, what’s the “aha” for most people when they hear you give this training? 

 

QUESTION 4 | Jason DukesWhat’s the one thing you would encourage someone to seek to become or strive to do right now who desires to take either a new step or a next step to cultivate for reconciliation and oneness? 

 

***JANICE SINGS AN EXCERPT FROM HER NEW SONG!!!***

 

:: OUTRO | Derrick DeLain

 

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