This episode was recorded 15 May 2013 live and in person at The Omni Group’s lovely offices overlooking Lake Union in Seattle.

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Luke Adamson is a founder of Toy Rockets. He’s a former instructor at the University of Washington’s iOS and Mac certificate program and a former developer at The Omni Group (where, among other things, he helped create OmniOutliner).

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Things we mention, in order of appearance (roughly):