The Red Pen Podcast

NCLA attorneys Margot Cleveland and Jeanette Brown break down what's actually named in the landmark lawsuit against Nebraska's public school system — from gender identity discussions to anti-law enforcement messaging to climate fear-mongering. 

As they explain, it's not confined to one classroom or one topic; it runs through the entire school day, every day.

🎙️ Watch the full episode of the Red Pen Podcast for the complete breakdown of the lawsuit, the legal precedent behind it, and what it could mean for parents nationwide.

📌 myduesmychoice.org / americansforfairtreatment.org

On this episode of the Red Pen podcast, Corey DeAngelis and Chip Rogers (Americans for Fair Treatment) interview former Georgia state representative Wes Cantrell about his book, "The Job I Never Wanted," and his experience leading school choice efforts in the Georgia House. 

The conversation includes Cantrell's experience with rural Republican resistance, pressure from school superintendents, and a late-night ESA floor vote that failed after Speaker David Ralston allowed it on crossover day. 

Cantrell recounts committee maneuvering, political backlash, and later developments as Georgia passed a limited ESA program with Gov. Brian Kemp’s involvement. 

After the interview, Corey and Chip discuss: 

- AFFT’s report on the Colorado Education Association’s spending 
- Union political activity
- Randi Weingarten remarks
- Nikole Hannah-Jones’ regret over a costly failing NYC public school
- Alleged misuse of official emails for political campaigning in California and Massachusetts
- Concerns about TSA union time and collective bargaining issues.

00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro
02:11 Book Launch and Backstory
05:09 Why School Choice Is Hard
07:12 Rural Pushback and Power
08:47 Georgia Choice History
12:54 Wes Discovers ESAs
14:11 Committee Roadblocks
16:14 Crossover Day Showdown
20:25 Vote Fallout and Pressure
23:44 Flyer Controversy Regrets
28:09 Kemp and New Speaker Shift
31:28 Bill Fails Then Passes
33:09 Georgia Choice Patchwork
34:01 Private School Hypocrisy
34:40 Westminster Storytime
36:22 Misha Mayner Fallout
37:39 Worst Night After Vote
40:27 Book Plug And Farewell
44:30 Colorado Union Money Trail
48:29 Weingarten Antisemitism Spin
51:31 Hannah Jones School Regret
01:01:04 TSA Union Time Fight
01:03:07 Rapid Fire Union Abuses
01:08:17 Wrap Up And Join AFFT