After four decades of fighting, the lease sale for drilling rights in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge was held on January 6, 2021. Amy sat down with David Aaronovitch of The Times of London to talk about what happened at the lease sale for their podcast, “Stories of our Times.” 

Amy and David talk about what the outcome means for the future of the refuge, and also revisit some of the central questions of season three of Threshold: Why drill in the refuge? Who stands to gain—or lose—the most from drilling? And how does the legacy of colonization come into play here? 

This episode is reposted with permission from “Stories of our Times.”

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