Why do so many agents grind until they burn out… or never retire at all? In this episode, Jeff sits down with 30-year industry vet Matthew Stewart and business partner Chase Waldren to uncover what’s really broken in real estate and what it takes to escape the “transaction treadmill.”

We dive deep into the coming Silver Tsunami (an aging wave of agents with no exit plan), the power of revenue share, and how to actually build a business that gives you freedom, not burnout. Plus, hear how Matt turned his passion for travel into a monetized YouTube channel — and how EXP made it all possible.

If you’re tired of hustling for every deal and wondering “what’s next,” this episode is your roadmap to something better.

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