In which John joins the podcast again to tell us about who owns the NIV, the general bent of Christian publishing houses, and the nuanced story of Focus on the Family. Part 1 of 2.

You can find the article on conspiracy theories that John referenced for free here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/belief-in-84099771

The article on the rise of nonreligious conservatives that Jo referenced (turns out it's an opinion piece) is here: https://wapo.st/3OUWIOw

(It's titled, "Move over, evangelicals. Non-churchgoers now rule the GOP" and it's from the Washington Post, if the link doesn't work.)

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