The Pipeline series ends where leadership development reaches its highest calling — not just leading a team, but developing the leaders on your team. In Part 4, Dr. Jeremy Dixon and Phil McMichael sit down with Tony Cobb, Director of Training and Development at Black Raven Group and coach at Cross Church's Highway 62 campus. Tony brings a rare perspective: he's been a student pastor in Oklahoma, Florida, and Texas, and now he'scoaching leaders of dream teamers— including the setup and teardown crew when Hwy 62 was still meeting in a high school gym. In this conversation, they break down what a coach actually does, the shift in mindset required to move from producing outcomes to producing people who produce outcomes, the 3C coaching framework (Care, Communication, Coaching), and how Proverbs 20:5 anchors the whole philosophy. If you lead anyone at any level, this episode is for you.

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She's the better half of our senior pastor at Cross Church — and today she's finally on the podcast. 

Meredith Floyd joins Dr. Jeremy Dixon and Izzy Hoffarth for a fun, personal conversation about growing up on a farm in Florida, meeting Nick at Liberty University, and what life with the cookie-baking, song-singing Pastor Nick actually looks like at home. 

She also shares her heart for the women of Cross Church, what it means to keep your priorities in order, and what's on her heart for our upcoming Women's Gathering. 

If you've ever wanted to sit down with Meredith over coffee — this is the next best thing. 

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Two regular people with regular jobs outside of church walls — and they're leading some of the most meaningful ministry happening at Cross Church. In Part 3 of The Pipeline, Dr. Jeremy Dixon and Phil McMichael sit down with Chris and Kendall to talk about what it actually looks like to serve, lead, and find joy in it. From the parking lot to the living room, they share how saying yes changed everything — and why the step you've been putting off might be the one that changes your life too. 

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Most people think serving is what you do before real leadership starts. They're wrong. 

In this episode, Dr. Jeremy Dixon and Phil McMichael sit down with Nick Bethea — Cross Church's Pastor of Growth and Leader Development — to talk about why serving isn't a stepping stone. It's THE thing. 

Nick unpacks why leadership is service, service is obedience, and obedience leads to godliness — and what it actually looks like to use the gift God gave you right where you are. Whether you've been waiting for the right role, the right season, or the right moment, this episode is your nudge. The church can't be who she's called to be without you.  

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What do you do when you can see a problem your organization doesn't know it has? 

That's exactly where Ryan Blackwell found himself as Executive Pastor of Cross Church — watching a healthy, growing church with campuses, baptisms, and momentum, and seeing something most people at the table weren't seeing: the leadership bench wasn't deep enough for where the church was headed. 

In this episode, Ryan walks us through how that conviction took shape and what Cross Church actually did to build a leadership pipeline from the ground up.  

And then there's the turn: Ryan recently stepped down as Executive Pastor of Cross Church to become the 11th President and CEO of Lifeway Christian Resources — one of the most significant leadership roles in Christian ministry today.  

This is Part 1 of a 4-part series called The Pipeline — built for every leader in the local church who wants to grow, develop others, and understand how leadership development actually works.  

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In this episode Pastor Ralph Johnson discusses lessons of leadership and personal growth that the Lord has taught him through an early career in the Navy and his transition into the ministry. From insight on organizational structures, to discipleship, to personal growth and transformation, Pastor Ralph dives into wisdom that will strengthen any lay leader, minister, or man or woman in the military or work force. 

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What happens when God blesses your career more than you deserve — and you start believing you earned it? In this episode, Dr. Jeremy Dixon and Phil McMichael sit down with James Young, who spent 29 years at Tyson Foods climbing from a night shift plant manager to Group Vice President of International, overseeing operations across five continents. James gets brutally honest about the demotion that became his greatest stepping stone, the pride that nearly cost him everything, and what God had to strip away before he found real peace. This isn't a theory or a framework. It's a life. And it might be exactly what you need to hear today. 

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You're praying for clarity. You're waiting for God to tell you what to do. But what if that's not actually what He's after? 

Dr. Jeremy Dixon and Izzy Hoffarth sit down with Dr. Nick Floyd — Senior Pastor of Cross Church and author of When You Don't Know What to Do — for an honest conversation about the seasons where you feel stuck and God seems silent. 

Nick opens up about why desperation can be the healthiest place you've ever been, the difference between health and perfection, and why the measure of spiritual maturity might not be what you think. 

The answer might not be what you're looking for. But what you find might be better. 

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You're not trying to build a platform. You're trying to steward one. In this episode, Dr. Jeremy Dixon and Phil McMichael sit down with Hollywood producer and media consultant Phil Cooke and executive producer Dan Wathen — two men who've spent decades helping the world's largest churches and ministries communicate the gospel more effectively. In this conversation, they get honest about what a media-driven world actually demands from the church, why your story is your most powerful tool, where AI fits and where it doesn't, and why the goal was never performance — it was always stewardship. Whether you lead a media team, run your church's Instagram, or just have a phone with social media on it — this one's for you. 

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The next generation doesn't need a better show, they need a real home. In this episode, Dr. Jeremy Dixon is joined by co-hosts Ben Stoken and Mark Hutchinson to sit down with Noah Herrin, lead pastor of Way Church in Nashville and author of “Holy Habits” and “Welcome to Manhood.” Noah planted Way Church in September 2023, and in under two years has seen over 1,500 people give their life to Jesus, including 53 salvations on launch day alone. In this conversation, Noah gets honest about what the local church is getting wrong with young adults, why community has to come before mission, what Gen Z actually wants from Scripture, and how older leaders can become the champions that young leaders desperately need. This one's practical, honest, and powerful.

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