This week on Autonomy Markets, Grayson Brulte and Walter Piecyk discuss GM’s sudden return to autonomous vehicles, Waymo’s growing supply constraints, and the launch of Tensor Auto.

A few months after shutting down Cruise, GM is once again re-entering the autonomous vehicle market, but this time with a twist. This time around the company will be focusing on developing personally-owned autonomous vehicles instead of robotaxis. 

This is GM’s third attempt at autonomy, raising questions about whether the company can regain the trust of engineers and the broader industry after repeatedly abandoning past efforts. While GM prepares for another autonomy reboot, Waymo continues to grapple with supply constraints. And then there is a new entrant to the autonomy markets, Tensor Auto (formerly Auto X) which is planning to launch a personally owned autonomous vehicle featuring 37 cameras, manufactured by VinFast. 

In corporate moves, Uber Freight CEO Lior Ron has left the company to become COO of Waabi in a surprising move that has drawn significant industry attention.

Episode Chapters

0:00 GM’s Revised Autonomy Plans

11:31 Ford’s Continued Autonomy Disdain

14:37 Where is Toyota?

16:06 Waymo’s Supply Constraints 

20:37 Waymo in Atlanta 

24:27 Is Waymo Expanding too Fast?

25:25 Tesla FSD

29:43 Robotaxi’s Upcoming Public Launch 

33:19 Tesla Eyes NYC Robotaxi Expansion 

35:02 Tensor Auto

43:20 Uber Freight / Waabi 

52:47 Next Week

Recorded on Friday, August 15, 2025

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This week on Autonomy Markets, Grayson Brulte and Walter Piecyk discuss Uber’s growing autonomous vehicle investments and why they won’t be modest. 

While Uber publicly framed their autonomy spending as “modest” and emphasized share buybacks, CEO Dara Khosrowshahi made it clear on the company’s Q2 2025 earnings call that more OEM partnerships and AV deals are on the horizon. 

At the same time, Uber pointed to “recycling” past investments, raising the question: why recycle when the company’s growing free cash flow can support both increased buybacks and significant investments in the autonomy ecosystem? Is this simply a bid to reassure Wall Street while simultaneously preparing for an autonomous future?

Anything is possible and we broke it all down on this week’s edition of Autonomy Markets along with Lyft’s renewed interest in autonomy and their willingness to invest and own assets. As Lyft prepares to spend (with a smaller balance sheet), Uber’s autonomy investments will be anything but modest.

Episode Chapters

0:00 Uber’s Autonomy Investments Narrative 

3:49 Who Finances Robotaxi Fleets?

6:16 What is Holding Back Growth of AVs?

8:26 Autonomous Driving Systems

10:20 Uber’s AV Exclusive Deals 

12:05 Uber Recycling Investments 

16:09 Uber’s Relationship with Waymo 

18:49 Lyft is Leaning into Autonomy

21:52 Lyft Partners with Baidu for Europe and UK Markets 

2428 Managing AV Fleets 

28:24 Aurora LIVE

31:24 Zoox NHTSA Exemption 

32:47 Autonomy Expands the Rideshare Market 

37:33 Next Week

Recorded on Thursday, August 7, 2025

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Andrew Chapin, Chief Operating Officer, Nuro joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy podcast to discuss Nuro’s three-way partnership with Uber and Lucid Motors, which will see Uber exclusively deploy the Lucid Gravity robotaxi powered by Nuro on their platform.

In a deal that clearly validates their bold pivot to licensing, Uber has committed to deploying 20,000 Nuro powered robotaxis globally on the Uber network over the next six years, with the potential for significantly greater scale as the partnership matures.

This isn’t just another robotaxi announcement, this could be the blueprint for the future of robotaxi deployment. An autonomous driving software developer licenses its technology to an OEM, which integrates the software and hardware at the factory, while a third party owns and operates the vehicles on a commercial network.

Episode Chapters

0:00 Nuro x Lucid x Uber Deal

4:55 Going Global

6:39 Building the Lucid Gravity Robotaxi

13:15 Maintaining the Robotaxi

16:07 Nuro Hardware

19:41 What’s Next?

23:10 Nuro’s Business Discipline 

26:58 Preparing for Market Launches

31:31 Highways

33:08 Operations 

35:13 Looking Forward

Recorded on Tuesday, July 29, 2025

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This week on Autonomy Markets, Grayson Brulte and Walter Piecyk discuss Waymo’s expansion to Dallas without Uber, instead partnering with Avis and renewing a relationship that dates back to 2017 and the emerging Tesla double standard. 

Waymo’s multi-year partnership with Avis signals the company’s desire to maintain flexibility, rather than locking into exclusive partnerships. With Avis once again joining the autonomous vehicle industry as a service provider, could Hertz and Enterprise be next to jump back in to the industry? 

As Waymo continues to expand to new markets, Tesla ha recently launched a ride-hailing service in the San Francisco Bay Area, covering a vast service area from San Jose to Berkeley, albeit with safety drivers due to California’s regulatory constraints.

Staying in the policy theme, Waymo is facing fierce resistance in Boston, where several City Council members are attempting to ban autonomous vehicles unless a safety driver is present. The opposition underscores the uphill battle autonomous vehicles companies still face in when expanding to new markets. 

Then there is the Tesla double standard. No matter what the company does, someone seemingly will find something wrong, something to nitpick and something to complain about. From social media to regulatory hearings, the double standard is real, and unfortunately it is shaping some aspect of the public autonomous vehicle narrative.

Episode Chapters

0:00 Waymo Expands to Dallas

2:07 Waymo Partners with Avis Once Again

6:19 Dallas Robotaxi Market

8:24 Rental Car Companies

11:31 Waymo Highway Testing

13:30 Waymo’s Unfriendly Boston Welcome 

19:28 Tesla’s Bay Area Ride-Hail Expansion 

22:04 Tesla and Waymo’s Rabid Fans 

25:39 Tesla Robotaxi

27:48 Tesla & Waymo’s Impact on Uber

29:03 Autonomous Trucking

31:45 Aurora 

34:52 Investor Interest in Autonomous Trucking

36:04 Next Week

Recorded on Thursday, July 31, 2025

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Kevin Peterson, Co-Founder & CTO, Bedrock Robotics joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy podcast to discuss the growing labor shortage in the construction industry and how Bedrock is developing autonomous construction equipment to help builders keep building.

America’s construction industry is facing a crisis with a shortage of 500,000 workers delaying projects by an average of two months and costing $2.7 billion annually. Bedrock is looking to solve that problem as they are building autonomous construction equipment using machine learning techniques such as imitation learning and reinforcement learning to teach machines how to dig, move, and adapt in real-world job sites.

Throughout the conversation, Grayson and Kevin explore the economic, technical, and operational challenges facing the construction sector, from power constraints slowing down data center builds to safety risks on chaotic job sites and how autonomy can solve these growing issues. 

Episode Chapters

0:00 From Cars and Trucks to Construction 

3:16 Automating Construction Equipment 

9:51 OEM Partnerships 

10:49 Construction Partners 

12:55 Data

16:56 Deploying Autonomous Construction Equipment 

24:00 Challenges 

26:15 Job Creation 

28:09 Human to Machine Ratio

30:28 Bedrock OS

33:40 Maps

34:29 Construction TAM

Recorded on Thursday, July 24, 2025

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This week on Autonomy Markets, Grayson Brulte and Walter Piecyk discuss Tesla and Alphabet’s Q2 2025 earnings calls, Tesla’s growing robotaxi ambitions and the launch of Zoox’s limited fixed-route service in Las Vegas.

Tesla’s Robotaxi expansion ambitions are growing, and on their Q2 2025 earnings call, Elon Musk disclosed that Tesla is looking to expand robotaxi service to Nevada, Florida, Arizona and the Bay Area as soon as this weekend. Two key factors behind Tesla’s ability to scale quickly are its expansive Supercharger network and its streamlined sensor suite, which is much simpler than those used by Waymo.

In Las Vegas, Zoox which requires a robust sensor-suite opened service to members of the public through what the company calls an “Explorers Program”. The operation is highly restricted running only between Resorts World and Luxor, with every ride requiring concierge assistance, giving it the feel of a Disneyland ride rather than an robotaxi service.

While robotaxis are scaling, the autonomous trucking industry continues to work through its business model. Multiple models are emerging, with some companies focused on licensing their technology and others building vertically integrated operations.This week, Walt joined the PACCAR earnings call to ask a question about their partnership with Aurora.

Episode Chapters

0:00 Tesla Q2 2025 Earnings / Robotaxi

4:26 FSD Take Rate

6:53 Safety

9:38 Robotaxi Expansion to Las Vegas?

11:15 Zoox Las Vegas Service

17:55 Who Launches Commercial Service First in Vegas? Zoox or Tesla?

18:46 Amazon’s Commitment to Zoox

21:24 Scaling Robotaxi

26:31 Robotaxi Bay Area Launch

28:21 VW’s Continued Autonomous Driving Struggles 

32:36 Alphabet’s Commitment to Waymo

34:14 Bot Auto Steves & Sons Partnership 

37:24 Autonomous Trucking

40:02 PACCAR Q2 2205 Earnings Call

45:19 Next Week

Recorded on Friday, July 25, 2025

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Tim Bucher, Co-Founder & CEO, Agtonomy joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy podcast to discuss how a 47-year-old California regulation is stalling the adoption of autonomous tractors and threatening the future of farming in the Golden State.

Since his last appearance, Agtonomy has entered into a partnership with Kubota to develop autonomous tractors aimed at easing the growing labor shortages in agriculture. Despite this progress, regulatory hurdles remain a significant barrier to scaling these technologies in California. 

A 47-year-old CAL/OSHA regulation technically prohibits the use of autonomous tractors on private farmland, a law originally implemented to prevent the dangerous practice of “driverless tractors,” where operators would jump off moving machines to complete manual tasks.

Today, that outdated regulation is being applied to modern autonomous tractors, creating a de facto ban. As a CAL/OSHA’s autonomous ag vehicles committee member, Tim offers a behind-the-scenes look at the slow but promising progress toward updating the law and unlocking the future of farming in California.

Episode Chapters

0:00 Agtonomy x Kubota

6:25 CAL/OSHA Regulations

10:36 Historical Context of CAL/OSHA “Driverless” Regulations

17:57 CAL/OSHA Advisory Committee

23:49 Defining Regulatory Language

25:50 Engaging with the Autonomous Ag Community

32:15 Labor Issues

37:13 Regulations

39:58 Regulations & Economics

43:35 Preparing for Growth

Recorded on Thursday, July 17, 2025

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This week on Autonomy Markets, Grayson Brulte and Walter Piecyk discuss their driver-out ride with Avride, Nuro’s impressive deal with Lucid and Uber, and Waymo’s Austin depot operated by AVOMO. 

While in Austin last week, Grayson and Walt met with AVride, experienced a fully autonomous ride in their Hyundai IONIQ 5, and spent time with the company’s management team. AVride’s engineering and OEM partnership strategy stood out as key strengths and later this year, the company will launch commercial service on the Uber network in Dallas.

Scaling robotaxi services requires real-world logistics, and companies such as AVOMO are leaning into the opportunity by building businesses to manage fleets of robotaxis. In Austin, AVOMO is managing a Costco-sized depot with 36 charging ports and on-site maintenance for Uber’s Austin Waymo fleet.

Another day, another autonomy deal for Uber. This week, Nuro announced a six-year deal with Lucid Motors and Uber to bring fully integrated autonomous Lucid Gravity vehicles powered by the Nuro driver to the Uber platform starting next year. As part of the deal, Uber is going to own the asset as they are entering the asset-ownership game, as we correctly called on Autonomy Markets.

Episode Chapters

0:00 Avomo, Waymo, Uber Austin Depot

7:51 Depot Real Estate

10:16 Vehicle Ownership

13:13 Waymo / Uber Relationship

15:13 Avride

23:30 Nuro, Lucid, Uber Deal

32:42 Uber's Autonomous Vehicle Asset + Logistics Strategy

36:32 Tesla Robotaxi's Expanded Austin Service Area

40:41 Next Week

Recorded on Thursday, July 17, 2025

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David Welch, Detroit Bureau Chief, Bloomberg joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy podcast to discuss the future of autonomy.

Is Waymo preparing to pivot away from owning and operating robotaxi fleets towards licensing the Waymo Driver to companies such as Toyota, and perhaps even Ford and GM? If Waymo were to fully pivot to a licensing model, it could establish a new model in which legacy OEMs become contract manufacturers for autonomous driving developers. 

With legacy OEMs acting as contract manufacturers, a new ecosystem would emerge in which OEMs build the vehicles, finance companies carry them on their balance sheets, service providers manage operations, and autonomous driving developers supply the autonomous driving systems under licensing agreements.

Meanwhile, Foxconn has ambitions to become the contract manufacturer of choice for robotaxi developers. If Foxconn were to enter the sector at scale, who would become the fleet operator? Who would finance the vehicles and own them on their balance sheet?

Today, there are still more questions than answers when it comes to the future of autonomy. Yet despite this current uncertainty, the outlines of the industry’s next era are beginning to take shape.

Episode Chapters

0:00 Ford’s LiDAR Demands

4:16 Financing Autonomous Driving Platforms 

5:44 Would GM Sell The Origin Platform to Cruise?

13:24 GM & Politics 

15:38 Foxconn

21:34 Licensing Autonomous Driving Systems 

23:15 Fully-Electric Pick-up Trucks

30:21 Tesla

32:35 Breaking out Robotaxi Revenue 

36:11 Waymo

41:41 May Mobility on Lyft

43:16 Toyota

44:53 Waymo OEM Partnerships 

46:02 What To Look For in the Markets

Recorded on Monday, July 7, 2025

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This week on Autonomy Markets, Grayson Brulte and Walter Piecyk headed to Austin, Texas to experience Robotaxi firsthand.

After spending the week in Austin and experiencing Robotaxi firsthand, we came away truly impressed. Tesla did it, they cracked full self-driving with a vision-only system. From our very first ride we noticed how the autonomous driving system was confident, yet not risky. It performed at a high-level and even out performed Waymo in several instances when we tested both autonomous driving systems side by side in a variety of real-world scenarios.

Over dozens of fully autonomous rides, Robotaxi navigated city streets, handled tricky parking situations, and adapted seamlessly without a single intervention. The experience exceeded our expectations, and further validated that Tesla’s vision-only approach is not just a technical milestone, but it is the future of autonomy.

Episode Chapters

0:00 Robotaxi Special Edition

1:29 First Robotaxi Ride and Our Impressions

7:47 Robotaxi Learnings

11:33 Expanding Austin ODD

14:46 Robotaxi, Waymo on Uber

20:44 Grocery Stores

25:24 Austin, Safety Attendants, & Maintenance

29:53 Blending In

Recorded the Week of July 7, 2025

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