This week on Autonomy Markets, Grayson Brulte and Walter Piecyk discuss Waymo’s unforced error with the Zeekr RT robotaxi, Uber’s future with autonomous vehicles and the winners and losers from the latest round of tariffs. 

Waymo’s Zeekr RT robotaxi has seen its price double due to a 100% tariff on Chinese-made vehicles, igniting a debate over whether Waymo made an unforced error with their Zeekr partnership. Could tariffs either accelerate a new OEM partnership for Waymo or see them abandon it all together?

Meanwhile, Uber’s autonomy ambitions are accelerating and gaining momentum globally. This week, Uber announced a partnership with WeRide and the Dubai Road and Transport Authority to deploy robotaxis in Dubai. Could Uber’s largest autonomy market end up being outside the U.S.? Grayson and Walter debate the issue, while exploring the implications that tariffs will have on the autonomy ecosystem.

Episode Chapters

0:00 Tariffs 

1:05 Impact of Tariffs on Waymo

6:26 Does Waymo Need to Slim Down?

9:10 Tesla FSD Unsupervised Launch

11:41 Tariffs and The Trucking Industry 

13:57 May Mobility 

14:27 LiDAR Market

18:25 Energy

22:46 Uber’s Global Ambitions 

25:15 Scaling Waymo

31:00 Uber App

37:23 Waymo Messaging 

40:17 Zoox

41:23 Lyft

46:37 Personally-Owned Autonomous Vehicles 

49:58 Next Week

Recorded on Thursday, April 3, 2025

--------

About The Road to Autonomy

The Road to Autonomy® is a leading source of data, insight and commentary on autonomous vehicles/trucks and the emerging autonomy economy™.

Autonomy is transforming industries and creating an entirely new economy that we call the autonomy economy™. The Road to Autonomy provides advisory and market intelligence services that helps you better understand the market and stay ahead of what’s coming next. To learn more, say hello (at) roadtoautonomy.com.

Sign up for This Week in The Autonomy Economy newsletter: https://www.roadtoautonomy.com/autonomy-economy/

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jeremy Bird, EVP, Driver Experience, Lyft joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy podcast to discuss Lyft’s approach to autonomous vehicles and why Lyft is embracing a hybrid network strategy. 

As part of their autonomous vehicle strategy, Lyft is developing partnerships with autonomous vehicle developers and vehicle manufacturers that will enable them to put their AVs on the Lyft network. Lyft envisions a hybrid network, one where autonomous vehicle fleets, individually owned autonomous vehicle, and human drivers are all utilizing the and profiting from the Lyft network. 

Episode Chapters

0:00 Lyft’s Current Thinking on Autonomy 

1:42 ETAs

2:46 Airports

6:43 Personally-Owned Autonomous Vehicles

9:31 Autonomous Vehicle Fleets

11:16 Lyft Ready Autonomous Vehicles

12:43 Hybrid Network Operations 

18:12 May Mobility 

23:31 Waymo

24:32 J.P. Morgan Partnership 

26:08 Lyft AV Tier

27:18 Motoring Down the AV Superhighway 

30:17 Tesla

31:31 Insurance 

35:53 Lyft Culture

39:11 Future of Lyft

Recorded on Wednesday, March 5, 2025

--------

About The Road to Autonomy

The Road to Autonomy® is a leading source of data, insight and commentary on autonomous vehicles/trucks and the emerging autonomy economy™.

Autonomy is transforming industries and creating an entirely new economy that we call the autonomy economy™. The Road to Autonomy provides advisory and market intelligence services that helps you better understand the market and stay ahead of what’s coming next. To learn more, say hello (at) roadtoautonomy.com.

Sign up for This Week in The Autonomy Economy newsletter: https://www.roadtoautonomy.com/autonomy-economy/

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week on Autonomy Markets, Grayson Brulte and Walter Piecyk discuss their road trip to Forward Forth Worth, Waymo’s expansion to Washington, D.C. and the emerging opportunity in autonomous trucking.

Texas is thriving capital of autonomous trucking with Aurora, Bot Auto, Kodiak, Torc and Waabi all having a presence in the state. Now autonomous vehicle companies are flocking to the state with Avride, May Mobility, Waymo and Zoox all having a presence in the state.

While Texas emerges as the capital of autonomy, Waymo continues to solidify its lead as the world leader in robotaxis. With their lead in tact and the demand for their service growing, Waymo announced this week that they are expanding service to Washington, D.C. in 2026. As both Waymo continues to grow and expand, the economic impact of autonomy is only just beginning to be felt.

Episode Chapters

0:00 Waymo Subreddit

01:17 Forward Fort Worth

03:10 Insurance

06:55 Investing in Autonomous Trucking

11:56 May Mobility Arlington Deployment

13:56 Autonomy Markets on the Road

17:28 Waymo Announces Service is Coming to D.C. in 2026

21:41 Waymo / Uber Relationship

26:50 Waymo Testing Zeekr Robotaxis on I-85 in Atlanta

27:44 Waymo, The World Leader in Robotaxis

30:46 London

31:56 New York

33:34 Autonomy Markets Confessions

34:34 Waymo Scheduled Rides

38:05 Waymo Pricing

41:08 Tesla’s June Robotaxi Launch

48:03 Next Week

Recorded on Tuesday, March 25, 2025

--------

About The Road to Autonomy

The Road to Autonomy® is a leading source of data, insight and commentary on autonomous vehicles/trucks and the emerging autonomy economy™.

Autonomy is transforming industries and creating an entirely new economy that we call the autonomy economy™. The Road to Autonomy provides advisory and market intelligence services that helps you better understand the market and stay ahead of what’s coming next. To learn more, say hello (at) roadtoautonomy.com.

Sign up for This Week in The Autonomy Economy newsletter: https://www.roadtoautonomy.com/autonomy-economy/

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Nat Beuse, Chief Safety Officer, Aurora joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy podcast to discuss the development of Aurora’s Safety Case Framework and how the company is preparing to safely launch fully autonomous commercial trucks.

Aurora’s rigorous safety case framework is built around trust, transparency and continuous improvement. From fostering a deeply ingrained safety culture to closely collaborating with OEM partners Volvo and PACCAR, as well as hardware partner Continental, Aurora is focused on deploying commercial autonomous trucks that operate safely and reliably without human intervention.

Episode Chapters

0:00 NHTSA Experience 

2:38 Roadway Safety

8:03 Aurora’s Culture of Safety

21:20 Developing the Safety Case Framework

25:22 Closing the Safety Case

26:41 Preparing for Commercial Launch 

31:21 Driver-Out Operations

39:38 OEM Partners

42:19 Redundancy

43:50 Remote Monitoring 

49:37 Launch Day

53:38 Key Takeaway

Recorded on Friday, March 14, 2025

--------

About The Road to Autonomy

The Road to Autonomy® is a leading source of data, insight and commentary on autonomous vehicles/trucks and the emerging autonomy economy™.

Autonomy is transforming industries and creating an entirely new economy that we call the autonomy economy™. The Road to Autonomy provides advisory and market intelligence services that helps you better understand the market and stay ahead of what’s coming next. To learn more, say hello (at) roadtoautonomy.com.

Sign up for This Week in The Autonomy Economy newsletter: https://www.roadtoautonomy.com/autonomy-economy/

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week on Autonomy Markets, Grayson Brulte and Walter Piecyk discuss Waymo’s mapping expansion to San Francisco International Airport (SFO), their continued Bay Area expansion and Tesla’s ambitious plans for launching a FSD Unsupervised. 

As Waymo begins mapping SFO, there are still hurdles that the company has to overcome before offering commercial service, as their current permit prohibits transporting commercial goods or passengers. When Waymo applies for their ground transportation operating permit, The Teamsters are expected to oppose Waymo’s permit application it in an effort to block the service. Despite this potential challenge, we expect commercial operations at the airport to begin by this summer, as there is a clear economic benefit to San Francisco’s economy. 

Down at Giga in Austin, Elon Musk held an all-hands meeting where he outlined his bold plans for FSD Unsupervised and the company’s upcoming robotaxi service. At some point, Tesla will “crack” full self-driving and when they do, Waymo will have their first true competitor.

Episode Chapters

0:00 Waymo Begins Mapping SFO

9:14 Waymo Airport Predictions (SFO, SJC, LAX)

11:13 Waymo Nashville Prediction

13:16 Waymo / Hyundai Prediction

14:38 Waymo’s Continued Bay Area Expansion 

19:13 Uber, Lyft and the Growth of Waymo

21:04 Waymo Zeekr Robotaxis

26:43 Waymo on Uber in Austin

30:59 Could Waymo be Expanding to the UK?

34:16 Tesla Unsupervised 

35:43 Tesla All-Hands Meeting

37:36 Tesla CPUC Permit

38:47 NVIDIA GTC

42:04 Truck OEMs

46:57 Unforced Error of The Week

48:51 Next Week

Recorded on Friday, March 21, 2025

--------

About The Road to Autonomy

The Road to Autonomy® is a leading source of data, insight and commentary on autonomous vehicles/trucks and the emerging autonomy economy™.

Autonomy is transforming industries and creating an entirely new economy that we call the autonomy economy™. The Road to Autonomy provides advisory and market intelligence services that helps you better understand the market and stay ahead of what’s coming next. To learn more, say hello (at) roadtoautonomy.com.

Sign up for This Week in The Autonomy Economy newsletter: https://www.roadtoautonomy.com/autonomy-economy/

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Adrienne Gildea, Deputy Executive Director, Commercial Vehicle Safety Alliance joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy podcast to discuss how CVSA developed enhanced inspections and the positive impact that they will have on roadway safety. 

CVSA is preparing for autonomous trucks to scale by working with the autonomous trucking industry, law enforcement and various stakeholders to develop enhanced inspections. Enhanced inspections will increase safety on the roadways as autonomous trucks will undergo rigorous “zero defect” inspections before being dispatched (or every 24 hours) and when they are on the road, the trucks will be able to communicate their inspection status to law enforcement officials in real-time.

Episode Chapters

0:00 Traditional Truck Inspections

3:32 Weigh Stations

5:31 Enhanced Inspections for Autonomous Trucks

11:14 Enhanced Inspections Training Program

13:20 Autonomous Trucking Regulations

14:58 Law Enforcement

18:37 Evolution of Enhanced Inspections

21:15 CVSA's Warm Embrace of Autonomous Trucks

24:03 Public Trust

26:22 Autonomous Trucks Compliment Traditional Trucks

28:21 Human Trafficking

29:51 Truck Parking Shortage

33:33 Preparing for Change

35:19 Future of Autonomous Trucking

--------

About The Road to Autonomy

The Road to Autonomy® is a leading source of data, insight and commentary on autonomous vehicles/trucks and the emerging autonomy economy™.

Autonomy is transforming industries and creating an entirely new economy that we call the autonomy economy™. The Road to Autonomy provides advisory and market intelligence services that helps you better understand the market and stay ahead of what’s coming next. To learn more, say hello (at) roadtoautonomy.com.

Sign up for This Week in The Autonomy Economy newsletter: https://www.roadtoautonomy.com/autonomy-economy/

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week on Autonomy Markets, Grayson Brulte and Walter Piecyk discuss Waymo’s Bay Area expansion and what it means for the great highway and airport unlocks, our visit to May Mobility in Ann Arbor and Amazon’s struggles with Zoox. 

Waymo has expanded its service area in the Bay Area by 50%, adding 27 square miles in Silicon Valley, for residents only at this time. Is this restriction due to a vehicle shortage? It very well could be, as Waymo continues to scale at a rapid pace in multiple markets. 

Is airport pick-up and drop-off at San Francisco International Airport (SFO) next? With Waymo’s growing service area in the Bay Area, it seems to only be a matter of time. Demand for Waymo at SFO is there as in December 2024, there were approximately 13,366 searches for “SFO” on the Waymo app, and 718 people installed the app while physically at the airport.

Once Waymo is allowed to operate at SFO, the economic impact is projected to be nearly $100 million. The positive economic impact is immense and California’s economy needs Waymo to succeed. When Waymo succeeds, California’s economy succeeds.

Episode Chapters

0:00 Autonomy Markets Visits May Mobility

7:28 Waymo’s Silicon Valley Expansion

11:25 Waymo’s Fleet Challenges

14:52 Waymo’s Eventual Expansion to SFO

24:20 Waymo LAX Service

29:20 Wayve‘s ChatGPT Moment

34:41 What Does Amazon do with Zoox?

37:22 Could Autonomy Reaccelerate Growth at Apple?

40:36 Did Uber Make a Mistake Selling ATG?

43:33 Unforced Error of The Week

44:33 Next Week

Recorded on Friday, March 14, 2025

--------

About The Road to Autonomy

The Road to Autonomy® is a leading source of data, insight and commentary on autonomous vehicles/trucks and the emerging autonomy economy™.

Autonomy is transforming industries and creating an entirely new economy that we call the autonomy economy™. The Road to Autonomy provides advisory and market intelligence services that helps you better understand the market and stay ahead of what’s coming next. To learn more, say hello (at) roadtoautonomy.com.

Sign up for This Week in The Autonomy Economy newsletter: https://www.roadtoautonomy.com/autonomy-economy/

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Peter Ludwig, CTO & Co-Founder and Jason Brown, General Manager-Government, Applied Intuition joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy podcast to discuss the company’s acquisition of EpiSci and how they are developing all-domain autonomy solutions for defense applications.

In December 2024, Applied Intuition acquired EpiSci to accelerate the growth of its defense business. The acquisition expands Applied Intuition’s offerings into maritime and aerial applications, creating strong synergies across the entire portfolio of products and tools. With a 90% overlap in advanced simulation and tooling technologies, Applied Intuition is accelerating the development of autonomy applications. 

By adding maritime and aerial capabilities, Applied Intuition is enabling the development of all-domain autonomy, spanning ground, aerial, and maritime systems that can be deployed in contested and peace time environments.

Recorded on Wednesday, February 19, 2025

Episode Chapters

0:00 Applied Intuition’s Defense Business 

3:45 Encrypted Communications 

6:31 Applied Intuition Tooling

8:39 EpiSci Acquisition

12:23 Maritime Autonomy

18:42 Flight Autonomy 

33:27 Threat Mitigation 

34:53 Secure Data

35:54 What’s Next for Applied Intuition

--------

About The Road to Autonomy

The Road to Autonomy® is a leading source of data, insight and commentary on autonomous vehicles/trucks and the emerging autonomy economy™.

Autonomy is transforming industries and creating an entirely new economy that we call the autonomy economy™. The Road to Autonomy provides advisory and market intelligence services that helps you better understand the market and stay ahead of what’s coming next. To learn more, say hello (at) roadtoautonomy.com.

Sign up for This Week in The Autonomy Economy newsletter: https://www.roadtoautonomy.com/autonomy-economy/

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week on Autonomy Markets, Grayson Brulte and Walter Piecyk discus Waymo’s launch in Austin, Alphabet’s strong commitment to Waymo and Hyundai’s robotaxi ambitions. 

On March 5, Waymo launched exclusively on the Uber app in Austin. However, riders cannot guarantee a Waymo vehicle, as there is no dedicated Waymo tier in the app. This lack of certainty could dilute the premium Waymo experience, as users do not know what type of vehicle they will be paired with when ordering a ride.

As Waymo scales its operations globally, Hyundai is emerging as a major player in the robotaxi market. This week, Avride announced a partnership with Hyundai to develop a fully integrated robotaxi, with the first vehicles set to enter service this year in Dallas.

Texas is emerging hub for autonomy for both robotaxis and autonomous trucks. Next month, Aurora will begin commercial driver-out operations from Dallas, followed by Bot Auto in Houston later this year. Autonomy is now becoming a business.

Episode Chapters

0:00 Waymo Experience on Uber

7:01 Uber’s Autonomous Vehicle Fleet Management Strategy

9:29 Lyft’s Flexdrive

12:17 Waymo’s Jaguar I-PACE Fleet

14:46 Waymo Zeekr Robotaxi

16:51 Alphabet’s Commitment to Waymo

20:26 Waymo’s Pending Silver Lake / Los Feliz LA Expansion

22:02 Autonomy Markets Nicknames

23:16 Waymo’s Mysterious San Francisco X Post

24:24 Walt’s Waymo Analysis

25:46 Avride / Hyundai Robotaxi Partnership

29:43 Bot Auto‘s Driver-Out Plans

33:54 Wayve Expands to Germany

35:56 Unforced Error of The Week

38:20 Next Week

Recorded on Friday, March 7, 2025

--------

About The Road to Autonomy

The Road to Autonomy® is a leading source of data, insight and commentary on autonomous vehicles/trucks and the emerging autonomy economy™.

Sign up for This Week in The Autonomy Economy newsletter: https://www.roadtoautonomy.com/autonomy-economy/

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Dean Foreman, Chief Economist, Texas Oil & Gas Association joined Grayson Brulte on The Autonomy Economy podcast to discuss the current state the U.S. economy and the global oil and natural gas markets.

Consumer debt in the U.S. is rising and that could have potential impacts on GDP. While the economic picture in the U.S. is uncertain at the moment, global oil demand is projected to reach 104.1 million barrels per day this year. Demand is partly being driven by emerging markets. 

Then there is Texas, which continues to export oil to the world, while having a $720 billion impact on GDP. Texas is not just an oil state anymore, even though 30% of the state’s private sector is employed by the oil and natural gas industry, it is now becoming a high-tech state as it has begun to integrate AI, automation and autonomy into the sector’s operations. 

Recorded on Monday, February 24, 2025

Episode Chapters

0:00 Health of the U.S. Consumer

5:57 Liquid Natural Gas Market

11:00 Data Centers

15:32 European Gas

18:51 U.S. Oil Imports

24:45 Heavy Crude

26:53 Growing Global Oil Demand & Geopolitics

29:50 Permian Basin

33:34 Impact of the Oil & Natural Gas Industry on Texas' Economy

35:29 Quarterly Outlook

--------

About The Road to Autonomy

The Road to Autonomy® is a leading source of data, insight and commentary on autonomous vehicles/trucks and the emerging autonomy economy™.

Sign up for This Week in The Autonomy Economy newsletter: https://www.roadtoautonomy.com/autonomy-economy/

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.