No Priors: Artificial Intelligence | Technology | Startups

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  • Tokenization, Agentic Trading, Harmonic: Robinhood's Mission to Expand Ownership with CEO Vlad Tenev

    What does it mean to build wealth as an individual investor in today’s society, especially as gains continue to get concentrated into smaller groups of VCs or institutional investors? Robinhood’s CEO and co-founder Vlad Tenev has a vision that can be summed up in one word: Ownership. In this episode, Sarah Guo chats with Vlad to get a closer look at how Robinhood has evolved from a simple app to buy stocks at zero commission into a global conglomerate that allows customers to own across a wide variety of surfaces and asset classes. Vlad explains how Robinhood is helping users extend ownership amidst the current economy and ongoing AI revolution through Trump accounts, tokenization of privates, and newer product offerings like Robinhood Chain, Agentic Trading, and Agentic Credit Card. He also talks about how his new mathematical superintelligence startup, Harmonic, is revolutionizing the field and how he hopes it will decentralize new discoveries and inventions. Vlad and Sarah also discuss how prediction markets could tie into the ownership conversation, whether financial infrastructure can be optimized to enable even higher volumes of high-frequency trading, and his advice for maintaining a level head when facing the vagaries of a changing financial market.  


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    Chapters: 

    00:46 – Intro to Vlad Tenev, His Background, and Robinhood Today

    12:25 – A Revolutionary Future for Mathematics

    18:49 – Robinhood’s Vision for Tokenization

    26:06 – Monetizing Knowledge via Prediction Markets

    28:48 – Impacts of Agentic Trading and Democratizing Trading

    33:48 – Safeguarding Financial Infrastructure for a New Load of HFTs

    38:30 – Ownership of Private Companies in the AI Revolution

    48:34 – Robinhood and Trump Accounts 

    50:47 – Keeping a Steady Hand and Head as a Leader

    53:48 – Conclusion


    55 min
  • Taking on ServiceNow: Coding Agents the Rest of Us with Serval Co-Founder and CEO Jake Stauch

    What happens when you put code-generation agents in the hands of enterprise IT teams? With Serval, you get a system where it's easy for everyone to be a builder. Sarah Guo and Elad Gil sit down with Serval co-founder and CEO Jake Stauch to analyze his company’s direct challenge to ServiceNow as the enterprise automation and service management system of record. Jake explains that by building an AI platform for enterprise IT departments with Serval, users can safely build while still safeguarding permissions by strict deterministic approvals and an audit trail. He also talks about ProServal, the company’s team that embeds automation engineers directly with customers in order to provide ongoing support and service. Jake also discusses how AI was the big unlock to taking on ServiceNow, why he’s betting on coding agents getting even better, why consumer is a window into what will happen next in enterprise and why the SaaS-pocalypse might look more like a consolidation, why background agents are still a moonshot in enterprise software, and the importance of hiring product-oriented engineers.


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    Chapters:

    00:47 – Jake Stauch Introduction and Serval’s Background 

    03:00 – Expanding Coding Agents Beyond Engineers

    04:40 – Limitations with Personal Agents in Enterprise

    06:29 – Deploying Serval Effectively in Large Orgs 

    07:55 – Day 1 Ambition and Attacking Enterprise Systems of Record

    09:51 – Taking on ServiceNow with Workflow Automation Platform

    11:01 – Betting on the Evolution of Coding Agents and Building Guardrails in Enterprise

    13:48 – Big Risks, Big Rewards, and Big Predictions for Serval and Coding Agents

    16:40 – Adopting Different Sets of Building Principles at an Enterprise Level

    20:49 – Token Maxing, Long-Term Budget Impacts, and ROI

    22:39 – The SaaS-pocalypse and SaaS vs. AI

    24:39 – The Mental Model for Delivering Platform-Level Power to the IT User at Enterprise

    26:43 – Building Automations with Catalyst and Raising Technical Competence

    28:55 – The Next Wave: Background Agents and Autonomy in Enterprise

    32:23 – Hiring Velocity and Unlimited Ambition at Serval

    34:17 – Keeping Pace with Customers and Fundamental Shifts in Product Function

    37:05 – Conclusion

    39 min
  • Democratizing Security for the Agentic Web with Cloudflare CTO Dane Knecht

    In the transition to the agentic web, security has become an afterthought. Now, organizations are racing to figure out what AI security means, and how to keep their data safe. Live from Cloudflare Connect, Sarah Guo sits down with Cloudflare CTO Dane Knecht to discuss the changing attacker landscape, and how his company is allocating its engineering resources to meet this emerging security challenge. Dane explains how enterprises that have moved away from castle-and-moat infrastructure to more of a zero trust infrastructure for security are in better positions than those who haven’t. He also discusses the challenges of patching 70 years of software and why the software development lifecycle will need to change for security for the agentic web, why he sees token spend in the next 18 months primarily going towards security rather than engineering, how the current web is in a ‘messy middle’ state where humans and agents are riding the same ‘rails’ on the internet, Cloudflare’s conference monetization gateway release as well as its Signals project with OpenAI, the rationale behind the release of Cloudflare OS, and the thinking behind a recent company restructuring. Plus, why Cloudflare hired one thousand interns, and why curiosity about AI is required to be successful at Cloudflare. 


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    Chapters:

    00:00 – Trailer

    00:55 – Cloudflare CTO Top Priorities

    05:03 – Today’s Attacker Landscape

    06:16 – State of Internet Infrastructure

    07:31 – Shift Towards Security Spend

    08:39 – Road to Better Software and Internet Security

    09:50 – Building Secure Production Software

    11:41 – Reducing Surface Area

    12:54 – Near Future of the Web

    17:27 – Monetization and Signals 

    19:13 – Success for Content Creators 

    20:07 – Workplace OS and Use Cases

    24:07 – Restructuring for AI-First

    27:11 – Token Budgeting

    29:32 – Cloudflare’s Intern Strategy

    33:39 – Importance of Curiosity

    35:29 – Attacking the Legacy Software Security Problem

    37:08 – Engineering Team Prioritization

    38:25 – Open vs. Closed Models

    39:43 – Democratizing Security for Everyone

    41:29 – Conclusion

    42 min
  • The New Apex Predator: CrowdStrike CEO George Kurtz on Adversaries Armed With AI Agents

    Adversaries are already running AI agents, and the fastest attacks now play out in seconds. Sarah Guo and Elad Gil sit down with CrowdStrike president and CEO George Kurtz on what AI-equipped attackers mean for enterprise security. George explains how agents are flattening the adversary pyramid by putting advanced tradecraft in the hands of low-skill attackers, and why CrowdStrike and Nvidia are building a frontier-style lab of their own to train security models. They also get into how open-weight and closed models compare on security, where CrowdStrike is directing its platform investment, lessons from the recent Hugging Face incident, and why George sees AI, like every platform shift before it, as a net creator of opportunity.

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    Chapters:

    00:00 – Trailer

    00:59 – George Kurtz Introduction

    01:24 – Agentic Landscape

    02:45 – AI and Adversaries

    04:51 – Open Weight Models and Adversarial Attacks

    06:37 – Adversary Geography

    08:34 – Attacker Capability in Context

    11:24 – Hugging Face Takeaways

    13:59 – CrowdStrike Frontier Security Models

    16:32 – CrowdStrike Key Offerings

    19:51 – What Differentiates CrowdStrike’s Models 

    23:57 – Near Term State of Security World

    25:46 – State of Model Distillation

    27:53 – Open Weight Model Importance and Cost

    29:59 – Assessing Real Agent Threat

    32:40 – Areas to Watch in AI

    35:02 – Case for Defense Dominance

    39:15 – Executive Advice

    43:16 – Shifts Create Opportunity

    45:27 – Conclusion

    46 min
  • The Changing Physics of Cybersecurity and Drug Development with OpenAI President Greg Brockman

    Technology has always been the fundamental driver of improvement for human quality of life. And with the recent rollout of advanced frontier models, like OpenAI’s GPT-6, humanity can now massively accelerate scientific discovery for its benefit. Sarah Guo and Elad Gil are joined by OpenAI President and co-founder Greg Brockman to discuss the company’s rapid progress across frontier models, cybersecurity, and scientific discovery. Greg shares how nearly 400 century-old math problems have been solved using its AI agents, and how the technology has the potential to transform other fields like biology in the realm of drug discovery. He also talks about how proactive, always-on AI agents like Dots impact modern productivity, why he believes the best UI is no UI at all, how cybersecurity is in a critical window of time to use peak intelligence to find and fix vulnerabilities in systems, and why OpenAI remains committed to keeping humans in the driver’s seat even as models surpass us in capability.

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    Chapters:

    00:42 – Trailer

    00:59 – Greg Brockman Introduction

    01:11 – AI and Advancements in Mathematics

    05:55 – AI Communication and Oversight

    07:45 – AI for Overcoming Biology Data Bottlenecks

    11:28 – Revolutionizing Drug Discovery

    14:18 – Changing Regulations to Accelerate Progress

    16:51 – Dots the Proactive Agent

    19:19 – Unifying Work and Consumer Agents

    22:02 – How UI Will Evolve

    26:08 – Cybersecurity in the AI Age

    32:55 – Shift in Security Investment

    35:49 – OpenAI’s Human-Centric Ethos

    38:28 – Conclusion


    40 min
  • Beam: The Great American Open Model with ReflectionAI Co-Founder and CEO Misha Laskin

    Is the future of frontier AI open or closed? ReflectionAI co-founder and CEO Misha Laskin joins Sarah Guo and Elad Gil to discuss the launch of Beam, the company’s 500 billion parameter open-weight reasoning model. Misha breaks down the pre-training and reinforcement learning required to produce Beam’s reasoning efficiency, the shift in enterprise compute from renting to owning intelligence, and how he believes that open models will capture the majority of global token demand. He also talks about the open model ecosystem in China and why competition with China’s models is a good thing, safety considerations around open models, and how frontier-level open models may accelerate the pace of scientific discovery.  

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    Chapters:

    00:42 – Misha Laskin Introduction

    00:59 – Latest with ReflectionAI

    02:07 – Challenges Building an Open Model

    03:56 – ReflectionAI’s Agentic Shift

    07:37 – Resources for Model Training

    10:09 – Scaling Efficiency

    12:18 – Training Beam

    16:51 – Where Model Value Comes From

    19:55 – Beam’s Reasoning Efficiency

    22:35 – Monetizing Open Weight Models

    25:03 – Future of Open Versus Closed Tokens

    31:29 – Competition with Open Models

    34:38 – Chinese Open Source Model Ecosystem

    38:40 – Will Chinese Models Remain Open

    44:44 – Safety and Open Models

    53:02 – Debating Access to Powerful Tools

    57:16 – AI and Scientific Progress

    01:00:36 – Data Centers and Jobs

    01:02:07 – Beam and Scientific Research

    01:05:37 – Research Head Count to Compute Ratio

    01:10:29 – Conclusion



    1 hr 10 min
  • Frontier Chips for Frontier AI Labs, with Walter Goodwin, Founder/CEO of Fractile

    Founder and CEO of full-stack AI chip company Fractile, Walter Goodwin, joins Sarah Guo to discuss the bets he’s made on the future of the chip market as other major players like Broadcom, NVIDIA, and AMD try to accelerate their workloads. They discuss the difference in Fractile’s newer approach on model architecture with a full-stack team in the current chip landscape and the technical bets they’re making in that direction. Walter also talks about compressing the gap between the chip design cycle and its payoff period, and making a generational leap in AI inference to realize the bet in volume against the value to be captured. 

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    Chapters:

    00:46 – Walter Goodwin and Fractile Introduction 

    02:29 – The Chip Landscape Now

    04:56 – Common Handoffs From Architecture-Focused Players

    07:18 – Full Stack Approach and Team Setup

    09:49 – Fractile’s Most Important Technical Bets 

    15:32 – Workload Predictions and Compressing the Chip Design Cycle

    23:03 – Architect Intent to Output Bottlenecks and Accelerating Trials

    28:16 – Workload Bets on Model Architectural Shifts

    31:20 – The Future of AI Chip Players and Market Structure  

    35:14 – Conclusion


    36 min
  • Re-Founding Incumbents for the AI Era with Sequence Holdings Co-Founder and CEO Michael Lee

    Can AI transform legacy incumbents rather than replacing them? Sequence Holdings co-founder and CEO Michael Lee joins Sarah Guo to discuss how holding company structures and engineering integrations are reshaping market leaders from the inside out. Michael details Sequence’s $7.7 billion take-private transaction of Baldwin alongside Dell Family Office (DFO), and shares his thesis on why traditional consulting models and software sales fall short for real enterprise AI transformations. They also talk about why permanent holding company structures are good for long-term compounding, real-world results from applying frontier engineering to BankSouth, and Michael’s lessons from his time in public investing, private equity, and operating at the intersection of market incumbents and AI.

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    Chapters:

    00:34 – Michael Lee Introduction

    01:03 – Sequence Holdings and Baldwin

    01:54 – Idea for Sequence

    04:36 – Incumbents in the AI Era

    06:32 – Why a Holding Company

    11:21 – Recruiting Top Engineers

    13:08 – Investing in BankSouth

    17:46 – Why an Insurance Brokerage

    20:17 – Atlas Platform Explained

    23:53 – Traditional Private Equity Limitations

    27:23 – What Sequence Looks For in Management Teams

    31:04 – Accomplishments at BankSouth

    34:45 – Founder Lessons

    36:08 – Story of Dell Partnership

    37:10 – Career and Investment Approach

    40:00 – Value of Exceptional People

    42:23 – Conclusion

    43 min
  • Why Diffusion Will Win AI Inference with Inception Co-Founder and CEO Stefano Ermon

    As generative AI hits hardware and latency bottlenecks, Stanford professor, diffusion pioneer, and Inception co-founder and CEO Stefano Ermon is betting on a radical new architecture. Stefano joins Sarah Guo to talk about Inception, and how his team is applying diffusion architecture beyond images and video into discrete text and code generation. Stefano explains the limitations of autoregressive LLMs, as well as why parallel token generation in diffusion models offers superior inference scaling and hardware utilization on standard GPUs. He also shares details about Inception’s Mercury models, real-world voice agent applications, the software stack required to serve diffusion-based models at scale, academia’s role at the frontier of AI innovations, and why the next era of AI competition will be defined by efficiency. 

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    Chapters:

    00:00 – Stefano Ermon Introduction

    00:35 – Research Background

    02:54 – Starting Inception

    05:59 – Why Diffusion Beats Autoregressive

    11:10 – Discrete vs. Continuous Modalities

    13:19 – Inception Today

    16:45 – Where Speed Wins

    17:31 – Inception Customer Base

    18:49 – Interaction with Hardware Landscape

    19:34 – Inception and the Broader Industry

    21:41 – Data Compression and Structure

    24:45 – Controllability of Diffusion Modeles

    27:25 – Emergent Capabilities at Scale

    29:02 – Future Workload Split Between Diffusion vs. Traditional

    30:03 – Adoption Challenges

    31:44 – Hiring and Team Organization

    32:50 – Recursive Self Improvement

    34:02 – Resource Allocation

    35:10 – Impact of Academia

    38:13 – Conclusion


    39 min
  • Coinbase’s Everything Exchange: Agentic Finance, Stablecoins, and Tokenization with CEO Brian Armstrong

    From the tokenization of real-world assets to funding research on anti-aging therapeutics, Coinbase co-founder and CEO Brian Armstrong is focused on solving meta-problems for the benefit of society. Brian joins Elad Gil this episode to discuss the intersections of artificial intelligence, crypto rails, and biotechnology. He details Coinbase’s vision for agentic finance, as well as how Coinbase is becoming the ‘Everything Exchange’, which includes tokenized real-world stocks, stablecoin payment adoption, and prediction markets. Brian also introduces his new venture, New Limit, a company founded to tackle longevity through epigenetic reprogramming, and outlines initial therapeutic programs and the roadmap toward clinical trials.  

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    Chapters:

    00:00 – Cold Open Trailer

    00:45 – Brian Armstrong Introduction

    01:13 – Coinbase and the Everything Exchange

    05:52 – Agentic Commerce

    10:00 – AI and Crypto

    10:49 – AI Inside Coinbase

    15:39 – Productivity and Company Size

    17:26 – The Everything Exchange and Tokenization

    20:53 – Prediction Markets

    23:15 – Introducing New Limit

    34:17 – Looking Forward Five Years

    40:24 – Special Economic Zones

    44:26 – Conclusion

    46 min

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At this moment of inflection in technology, co-hosts Elad Gil and Sarah Guo talk to the world's leading AI engineers, researchers and founders about the biggest questions: How far away is AGI? What markets are at risk for disruption? How will commerce, culture, and society change? What’s happening in state-of-the-art in research? “No Priors” is your guide to the AI revolution. Email feedback to [email protected].

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