What if the Bible actually offers us a narrative pointing to universal God identity and transformation? What if the work of Jesus was never about establishing a new religion? This episode of The Sacred Everywhere podcast and video series features Doug King discussing the biblical narrative in light of the spiral dynamics model of the evolution of worldviews.

 Doug King began his religious life in a very conservative denomination and deeply studied the Hebrew and Christian texts, later finding that systems like spiral dynamics offered a transformative lens through which to look at the texts.

 Doug and his wife, Denée, live in Dacula, GA. He has a background in business and worked with his father, author, scholar and speaker Max King, to form Presence International, a growing network that engages emergent, integral, and interspiritual organizations and idea leaders.

 You can find his work at these links:

Website: https://www.presence.tv/

Podcast: https://www.presence.tv/podcast

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In a relational, evolving world, questions of war and justice cannot be answered by control and domination, but only through the lens of love, relationship, and what makes life possible. This episode of The Sacred Everywhere podcast and video series features Dr. Sheri Kling discussing the question of whether there is ever really a just war from a process perspective. 

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This episode of The Sacred Everywhere podcast and video series features Dr. Sheri Kling discussing archetypes and the patterns of our lives.

Read a condensed version in article form on Substack at https://sherikling.substack.com/p/the-patterns-of-our-lives.

The video is available on Substack .

This episode of The Sacred Everywhere podcast and video series features Philip Shepherd,  someone whose work I’ve come to greatly appreciate. The full episode is available for paid subscribers to The Sacred Everywhere.

Both Philip and I question the dominant worldview of Western culture. Process thinkers have been doing the same as well for a very long time. What Philip calls “The Story” asserts that “humans stand as independent of nature as our skyscrapers do; that the head should be in charge of the body, just as a CEO is in charge of a corporation; that we can own trees, land, and animals; that self-mastery is the means to success; that what we feel as ‘the self’ lies within the boundary of the skin; that the pursuit of happiness is the primary goal of our lives; and that money buys security.”

What led him to question this story in the first place? That’s part of our conversation, as is the whole notion of wholeness and our immersion within it, and how Philip’s thinking intersects with the process thought of Alfred North Whitehead and my own work on the whole-making sacred.

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Philip Shepherd is recognized as a leader in the global embodiment movement. He created The Embodied Present Process™ (TEPP) in partnership with Allyson Woodrooffe, and as co-directors they provide practices and new perspectives on our culture to help people come home to the body’s deep presence and wisdom. They share the work of TEPP online, in one-on-one coaching sessions, and worldwide in workshops, retreats and Facilitators Trainings.

TEPP is also supported by Philip’s two books – Radical Wholeness and New Self, New World – which articulate the causes, perils and personal challenges of our culture’s disembodiment. Philip’s own journey to embodiment includes cycling alone as a teenager through Europe, the Middle East, Iran, India and Japan; studying classical Japanese Noh Theater; co-founding an interdisciplinary theatre company; writing two internationally produced plays and a television documentary; and playing lead roles on stages in London, New York, Chicago and Toronto. 

The TEPP website and online courses are found at EmbodiedPresent.com. Philip’s most recent book, Deep Fitness, was co-authored with Andrei Yakovenko and offers a revolutionary and highly effective approach to fitness. He is currently working on a new book, Remembering Ourselves: A Guide to Our Lost Intelligence.

This episode of The Sacred Everywhere podcast and video series features Bob Hoss, someone I met many years ago due to our mutual interest in and study of dreams and using dream work for wholeness and healing. The full episode is available for paid subscribers to The Sacred Everywhere. You can watch the video of this first half on YouTube at https://youtu.be/538358uLzKU.

 Robert Hoss, MS is the former President and present Conference Director of the International Association for the Study of Dreams and director of the DreamScience Foundation for dream research grants. He is an APA member, a Haden Institute faculty instructor and on the board of the National Institute for Integrative Healthcare.

 His research specializes in content analysis and its relation to neuroscience and psychological theory. His training as well as his teaching activity is eclectic with a focus on Gestalt Therapy, Jungian theory and contemporary research.

 He is author/editor of: Dreams: Understanding Biology, Psychology & Culture (Greenwood); Dreams that Change Our Lives (Chiron); Dream to Freedom (EP Press); Dream Language (Innersource), He is also published in 11 professional and dream related books and 5 journals and has been featured in a PBS special, Readers Digest, Prevention, the Psychology Today blog and USA Today. He was awarded the IASD lifetime Achievement Award in 2021. You can learn more about Bob’s work at www.dreamscience.org

This episode of The Sacred Everywhere podcast and video series features series host, Dr. Sheri Kling. You can watch the video on YouTube at https://youtu.be/AKbyE02wHcM.

For more information on the Haden Institute and its spiritual direction and dream work certification programs, or its Summer Dream & Spirituality Conference, visit https://www.hadeninstitute.com/.

 To learn more about Parker J. Palmer and his work on Healing the Heart of Democracy, visit the Center for Courage & Renewal at https://couragerenewal.org/.

This episode of The Sacred Everywhere podcast and video series features Ilia Delio, OSF, a Franciscan Sister of Washington, DC, and an American theologian specializing in the area of science and religion, with interests in evolution, physics, and neuroscience and the import of these for theology. Her most recent book is The Not-Yet God: Carl Jung, Teilhard de Chardin, and the Relational Whole (Orbis, 2025). This is Pt. 1 and may also be watched on YouTube at https://youtu.be/sOVSKWP5CF8. The full episode is available on Substack at https://open.substack.com/pub/sherikling/p/god-in-matter-evolution-and-ai?r=22d1zx&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true.

Ilia currently holds the Josephine C. Connelly Endowed Chair in Theology at Villanova University and is the author of twenty books, including "Care for Creation" (coauthored with Keith Warner and Pamela Woods), which won two Catholic Press Book Awards in 2009: first place for social concerns and second place in spirituality.

Her book The Emergent Christ won a third-place Catholic Press Book Award in 2011 for the area of Science and Religion. Her recent books include The Unbearable Wholeness of Being: God, Evolution, and the Power of Love (Orbis, 2013), which received the 2014 Silver Nautilus Book Award and a third-place Catholic Press Association Award for Faith and Science. Ilia holds two honorary doctorates, one from St. Francis University in 2015, and one from Sacred Heart University in 2020.

Ilia also has a podcast called Hunger for Wholeness https://christogenesis.org/podcast/.

Learn more at the Center for Christogenesis. https://christogenesis.org/

This episode of The Sacred Everywhere podcast and video series features Dr. Tripp Fuller, a theologian, author, and long-time podcaster. Tripp received his PhD in Philosophy, Religion, and Theology at Claremont Graduate University. For almost 16 years Tripp has been doing the Homebrewed Christianity podcast where he interviews different scholars about their work so you can get nerdy in traffic, on the treadmill or doing the dishes. Last year it had over 3.5 million downloads. You can also find it on YouTube.

Homebrewed Christianity also inspired a book series with Fortress Press called the Homebrewed Christianity Guides to… topics like God, Jesus, Spirit, Church History etc. Tripp’s most recent book is Divine Self-Investment: An Open and Relational Constructive Christology.

Tripp is a very committed and (some of his friends think overly) engaged Lakers fan, takes Star Wars and Lord of the Rings very seriously, enjoys coaching his oldest son Elgin’s flag football and basketball team, and prides himself in giving rousing editions of Sandra Boynton tunes during bedtime reading. Tripp and his partner since 18 Alecia have three kids and live in North Carolina.

Here, we have a super collegial conversation that ranges in tone from lighthearted to serious about podcasting, “theology that doesn’t suck” (Homebrewed Christianity’s tagline), the “bifurcation of nature,” Bonheoeffer, Crossan, as well as why what happens at Theology Beer Camp breaks down barriers and welcomes all to the table.

Because our conversation was so fun, I got distracted from watching the time clock, so the first part of this conversation is nearly an hour, while the second part goes about another 40 minutes beyond that. So buckle up and listen in!

This episode of The Sacred Everywhere podcast and video series features Swami Padmanabha, an Argentinian-born and Catholic-raised Hindu monk who writes and teaches all over the world. This is the first half of our conversation which can also be heard on YouTube at https://youtu.be/OZOPUhbKOwg.   

The full conversation is available to paid subscribers on Substack at  https://sherikling.substack.com/p/evolution-in-divine-love-with-swami.

At an early age, Swami Padmanabha delved deeply into the theology of diverse mystical traditions. After taking up Gaudiya Vaishnavism in 1999 at the age of 19, he has dedicated himself to an extensive study of the Gaudiya scriptures under the guidance of his various mentors. Fluent in English and Spanish, Swami has written hundreds of articles in both languages, with his first two books published in English and in the process of being translated to other languages.

For the past twenty years, he has traveled around the world and lectured in universities, ashrams, and yoga studios. All of his numerous talks and seminars are available online for free at swamipadmanabha.com. As a leader of spiritual retreats and communities, he inspires both practitioners and visitors with his penetrating teachings and personal example.

He is the author of Inherent or Inherited? Bhakti in the Jiva according to Gaudiya Vedanta, Radical Personalism: Revival Manifesto for Proactive Devotion and, most recently, Evolution in Divine Love: The Eternal Becoming of God, Soul, and Matter.

https://www.amazon.com/Radical-Personalism-Manifesto-Proactive-Devotion/dp/B0C6BWMHB2/

https://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Divine-Love-Eternal-Becoming/dp/0996915605/

Find him online at https://swamipadmanabha.com/.

Learn about Swami’s podcast, The Free Radical Podcast, at https://swamipadmanabha.com/free-radical-podcast/ or on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/@swamipadmanabha

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MY STORY: My name is Dr. Sheri Kling, and I’m interested in helping you discover a whole-making Sacred in your own sacred life.

I’ve spent my life walking the journey I teach. It’s been a path shaped by deep questions, hard-won insights, and moments of grace that awakened me to new, life-giving images of the sacred. These shifts didn’t just change my thinking—they gave me the strength to face profound adversity and the joy of finally feeling at home in my own life and body.

Whether you’re seeking personal healing, professional clarity, or a more meaningful spiritual path, I offer grounded, heart-centered tools to help you thrive—and to remind you that wholeness is not just possible, it’s your birthright.

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This episode of The Sacred Everywhere podcast and video series features Dr. Sheri sharing about her spiritual journey, recent struggles around life disappointments, and an experience in meditation. You can watch the video version on YouTube at https://youtu.be/iU4r5BWpaws .