In this episode, I sit down with Hodgetwins, and I can honestly say this might be the most I've ever laughed on this show. Yes, we talk about real issues. Culture. Politics. Identity. Accountability. But we also laugh a lot. Because that's who they are. Comedians who tell the truth without pretending it has to sound polished or safe. We get into what happens when you stop conforming, when you challenge expectations placed on how you're supposed to think, vote, or speak. We talk about black fatigue, social pressure, and the cost of honesty. But we also joke, tease, and laugh through it, because humor is often how people survive difficult conversations. This episode is honest, funny, uncomfortable at times, and genuinely joyful. It is proof that you can talk about serious topics without losing your sense of humor or your humanity. If you want a conversation that is real, unfiltered, and full of laughter, this one is for you. Get 25% Off Cowboy Colostrum with code SAGE at https://cowboycolostrum.com/SAGE/ Try Rho Nutrition today! Code SAGE for 20% OFF everything rhonutrition.com/discount/sage BTS on Patreon: http://bit.ly/4nLmOSk

My dear friend Samantha Ponder joins me for one of our most honest conversations yet. We talk motherhood, faith, fear, and freedom, raising kids in New York City, why safety is more complicated than we think, and what it really means to trust God in uncertain times.

We also reflect on life after ESPN, being fired, stepping away from social media, marriage, parenting without fear, and why some of the hardest seasons can lead to the greatest clarity.

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This conversation with Del Bigtree is one of the most serious and eye-opening episodes I have ever recorded. Del laid out his concerns about vaccine safety, government transparency, and the systems that influence the medical decisions families make every day. Whether you agree with him or not, his perspective is rooted in years of research, investigation, and a deep passion for protecting children. We talked about the questions he believes are not being asked, the studies he thinks should be at the center of public conversation, and the consequences he has faced for speaking out. Del walked through what he sees as the dangers of censorship, the erosion of trust in institutions, and the importance of holding powerful systems accountable. This episode is not about fear. It is about understanding. It is about listening to people who have dedicated their lives to a cause, even when their views challenge the mainstream. I hope you approach this conversation with an open mind, the same way I did. Try Rho Nutrition today and experience the difference of Liposomal Technology. Use code SAGE for 20% OFF everything at https://rhonutrition.com/discount/sage Chapters: 0:00 Intro 2:53 How Vaccine Research Began for Del Bigtree 7:53 Injuries Due to Vaccines 13:08 Del Bigtree's Conclusion 25:33 Covid 26:17 Government Response and Impact 29:43 Understanding the Data 32:13 What Are Our Options 48:40 Vaccine Incentives 53:59 How Thorough Are Vaccine Tests 1:03:46 Doctors Receive Very Little Vaccine Education 1:13:04 Story of a Mother Misled About Ingredients in Her Baby's Vaccine 1:21:33 Is There Any Reason to Take the HPV Vaccine 1:24:52 Stanley Plotkin and the Use of Fetal Tissue in Testing 1:28:10 Industry Accountability 1:29:27 Media and Public Trust 1:32:59 Anthony Fauci 1:40:31 Vaccines and Autism BTS on Patreon: http://bit.ly/4nLmOSk

The Sage Steele Show is a weekly podcast hosted by former ESPN anchor Sage Steele. Each week, Sage sits down with entertainers, athletes, business people, and politicians to have deep dive personal one on one discussions that enlighten, entertain, and engage. There's a whole big world out there that's not just sports, and Sage wants to talk about all of it.

Jason Whitlock showed up ready to talk about everything, and he did not hold back.

We talked about his long and complicated history with Stephen A. Smith, why that friendship changed, and what he believes Stephen has gotten wrong through the years. Jason opened up about the choices he has made in his personal life, including why he never married or had children, and how those decisions shaped the man he is today.

And because this is Jason Whitlock, there was plenty of laughter too. I pressed him on his top ten eye candy list, and he broke it all down with the honesty and humor only he can deliver.

This conversation was real and raw, but also thoughtful and surprisingly vulnerable. Jason brought clarity, conviction, and heart, and I walked away grateful for the honesty of it all. Chapters:0:00 Intro 1:25 Jason's Brutally Honest Opinion of Stephen A. Smith 8:04 Stephen A. Smith for President 14:23 Relationship with Stephen A. Smith 17:11 Stephen A. Smith Is Not a Journalist 33:19 What Happens to People Who Speak Up 36:04 Why Jason Whitlock Has Not Married or Fathered Children 45:32 Mixed Kids and Racial Confusion 52:04 Friendships 59:24 Worried About Safety 1:10:16 I Would Rather Have Mean Tweets Than Same Sex Marriage 1:14:18 Sage Confronts Jason Whitlock on His Top Ten Eye Candy List 1:21:34 What Happened with Bonnie Bernstein 1:24:03 Sage's Take 1:28:21 Women in Traditionally Men's Spaces 1:34:50 Jason Whitlock's Weight 1:37:43 Jason's Faith 1:42:23 Jason Whitlock's Legacy BTS on Patreon:

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Jason Whitlock showed up ready to talk about everything, and he did not hold back.

We talked about his long and complicated history with Stephen A. Smith, why that friendship changed, and what he believes Stephen has gotten wrong through the years. Jason opened up about the choices he has made in his personal life, including why he never married or had children, and how those decisions shaped the man he is today.

And because this is Jason Whitlock, there was plenty of laughter too. I pressed him on his top ten eye candy list, and he broke it all down with the honesty and humor only he can deliver.

This conversation was real and raw, but also thoughtful and surprisingly vulnerable. Jason brought clarity, conviction, and heart, and I walked away grateful for the honesty of it all. Chapters:0:00 Intro 1:25 Jason's Brutally Honest Opinion of Stephen A. Smith 8:04 Stephen A. Smith for President 14:23 Relationship with Stephen A. Smith 17:11 Stephen A. Smith Is Not a Journalist 33:19 What Happens to People Who Speak Up 36:04 Why Jason Whitlock Has Not Married or Fathered Children 45:32 Mixed Kids and Racial Confusion 52:04 Friendships 59:24 Worried About Safety 1:10:16 I Would Rather Have Mean Tweets Than Same Sex Marriage 1:14:18 Sage Confronts Jason Whitlock on His Top Ten Eye Candy List 1:21:34 What Happened with Bonnie Bernstein 1:24:03 Sage's Take 1:28:21 Women in Traditionally Men's Spaces 1:34:50 Jason Whitlock's Weight 1:37:43 Jason's Faith 1:42:23 Jason Whitlock's Legacy

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I sat down with Dave Ramsey at his headquarters in Nashville for one of the most personal and inspiring conversations I've had on this show.

Dave opened up about losing everything in his 20s, filing for bankruptcy as a young husband and father, and how that painful chapter became the foundation for the empire he built today. We talked about what it means to be a real leader, how faith guided him through failure, and the difference between being a boss and being a servant leader.

He shared what those years taught him about marriage, fatherhood, and humility, and how his faith continues to shape every decision he makes at Ramsey Solutions. We also talked about cancel culture, courage, and why he believes silence is never the answer.

This episode is about perseverance, redemption, and the kind of wisdom that only comes from walking through the fire and choosing to serve others on the other side.

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Bear Handlon has lived a life of service, from the battlefield to the boardroom. The former U.S. Navy SEAL and CEO of Born Primitive joined me for a conversation about purpose, leadership, and what it means to truly give back. Bear shared the story behind his company's partnership with Black Rifle Coffee to raise $25 million to pay off veteran medical debt. He talked about the people this effort has already changed, from veterans to Gold Star families, and what it feels like to make that kind of impact. We also talked about his transition from military life to business, the lessons he has learned about sacrifice and integrity, and how fatherhood has given him a new perspective on success. This episode is a reminder that gratitude means more when it comes with responsibility, and that one person can make a difference when their heart is in the right place. Join the mission to help pay off $25 million in Veterans' medical bills. Support through: blackriflecoffee.com bornprimitive.com BTS on Patreon: http://bit.ly/4nLmOSk The Sage Steele Show is a weekly podcast hosted by former ESPN anchor Sage Steele. Each week, Sage sits down with entertainers, athletes, business people, and politicians to have deep dive personal one on one discussions that enlighten, entertain, and engage. There's a whole big world out there that's not just sports, and Sage wants to talk about all of it. #sagesteelepodcast #sagesteele #podcast Subscribe to the Channel for more Podcasts like this! Listen to the Show on all Podcast Apps "The Sage Steele Show" https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-sage-steele-show/id1737682826 Follow Sage: https://www.sagesteele.com https://x.com/sagesteele https://www.instagram.com/sagesteele https://www.tiktok.com/@officialsagesteele https://rumble.com/c/SageSteeleProductions

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Will Cain has made a career out of saying what he really thinks, and this conversation was no different.

We talked about faith, family, and the power of conviction in a world that constantly demands you choose a side. Will shared how growing up in Texas shaped his worldview, what he learned from leaving ESPN for Fox News, and why he believes truth and empathy can still coexist in today's media landscape.

We also discussed marriage, fatherhood, and the importance of raising boys who are strong, kind, and grounded. Will opened up about the pressure that comes with public life, how he handles criticism, and what it means to lead with both humility and courage.

This was real and unfiltered, an honest look at what it means to hold onto your values when the spotlight never turns off.

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Chapters:

0:00 Intro

4:04 Life as a Cowboy in Montana

12:19 The Sudden Passing of Will Cain's Father

16:04 Mental Health

18:52 Will Cain's Upbringing

23:44 Will Cain's Early Days on TV

28:55 Will Cain Was in the Quinceañera Business?

33:28 Will Cain's TV Pilot

35:44 First Time on TV

42:11 When Sage Met Will Cain at ESPN

49:18 Skip Bayless Story

51:56 Lessons Learned at ESPN

54:01 Will Cain's Time at CNN

1:02:03 When ESPN "Turned"

1:11:55 Charlie Kirk

1:14:13 Hope for ESPN?

1:19:03 Second Attempt at a "Lip Pillow"

1:23:20 Fox & Friends

1:26:28 Hawaii

1:33:01 Relationship with Pete Hegseth

1:35:24 Is Fox News Propaganda?

1:38:12 Moving Back to Texas

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Riley Gaines has become one of the most recognizable voices in the fight to protect women's sports, but in this conversation, we got to see another side of her as a wife, a new mom, and a woman learning to balance purpose with peace.

Riley and her husband Louis sat down with me to talk about faith, marriage, and how they've stayed grounded through all the chaos of public life. We talked about their journey as newlyweds, how becoming parents has changed their perspective, and what it really feels like to be thrust into the national spotlight.

Riley opened up about the pressure of being a public figure, the criticism she faces, and how she finds strength in her faith and in her relationship with Louis. Together, they shared how they handle disagreements, protect their marriage, and stay focused on what matters most: family, purpose, and truth.

It's a rare and refreshing look at the woman behind the headlines, and the man who's been by her side through it all.

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00:00:00: Intro

00:03:09: Why Riley Gaines Is Ready for Baby #2

00:05:04: What Labor and Delivery Were Like for Louis

00:12:34: Life After Delivery: How Things Have Changed

00:17:06: Fears Leading Up to Delivery

00:35:23: Vaccines and Parenthood Choices

00:49:53: The "Push Present"

00:54:35: Who Is Louis Barker?

01:01:33: How Louis Proposed to Riley

01:10:08: Learning to Use Her Voice

01:16:30: Reliving the Day Riley Was Trapped Inside a Classroom at San Francisco State University

01:29:04: When It All Feels Like Too Much

01:33:31: The Assassination of Charlie Kirk

01:35:34: Faith

01:45:06: The One Thing Everyone Should Know About Louis

01:47:47: The One Thing Everyone Should Know About Riley

01:49:30: What Riley and Louis Want Life to Be Like for Margot

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