The Salty Hoes Podcast. The Real Lives of Ex-Mormon Ex-Wives

What do you do when the see-through man leaves you when you leave the Mormon church?

Mel and Claire (The Salty Hoes) restart after tech issues, catch up on Claire attending Meri Brown’s Sister Wives adjacent 1980s “dance party” in Utah County that turns out to be brightly lit karaoke with candy and soda; Claire and Joan sing “Relax” and clear the floor before escaping to Panda Express.

They swap dating updates: Claire expands her app radius, and Mel goes on a Tinder date after a misleading under-chin FaceTime angle. The episode’s topic is “being Holy Ghosted,” critiquing Mormon teachings about the Holy Ghost as a control tool that undermines intuition and self-trust, with discussion of bodily autonomy and harmful “revelation” logic.

Marriage: Who’s It Really For? (Live from an unnamed bar in Millcreek, UT)Mel and Claire record their podcast live from a bar in Millcreek, Utah, to test the audio and dive into marriage, singlehood, and who benefits from the institution. They argue marriage is context-dependent but criticize the societal pedestal it’s put on and the harsh stigma toward single and divorced women, especially single mothers, compared with the praise given to single dads.

Claire describes being financially penalized through taxes and recounts ex-husband dynamics where fathers withhold everyday support, force constant “begging” for money, and frame mothers as greedy, harming kids in the process. They discuss how marriage often improves men’s health due to wives’ invisible labor and social support, cite Pew data on negative views of single motherhood, and conclude they’re not anti-marriage but would only consider re-partnering under strict financial boundaries, ideally with prenups.00:00 Live From The Bar

01:31 Why Marriage Matters

02:41 Marriage Versus Singlehood

03:59 The Marriage Pedestal

06:11 Disney Happily Ever After

09:09 Post Divorce Ambivalence

11:01 When Men Ruin Pairing

13:20 The Gross Reality Of Cohabiting

17:02 The Single Tax Problem

19:34 Money Control After Divorce

21:58 Child Support Power Games

29:19 Kids Pay The Price

31:32 Marriage Money Gap

32:46 Health Perks For Men

35:33 Invisible Labor Stories

41:38 Do Stats Prove Happiness

43:43 Stigma Against Single Moms

49:21 Single Dads Double Standard

51:11 Dating After Divorce

57:57 Would You Marry Again

01:00:17 Prenups And Protection

01:01:44 Alternative Living Models

01:02:32 Wrap Up And Farewell

The Talking Stage: Catfish, Too Soon Sexting, and Sir AloofMel and Clare (The Salty Hoes) open by admitting the past week felt heavy, then pivot to a lighter “respite” episode on modern app dating’s dreaded “talking stage,” defined as the texting window between matching and meeting.

They trade survival tips and horror stories about archetypes including catfish (even photo-verified and AI-generated), “Mr. Jumps to Sex in Two Texts or Less,” Mr. Monosyllabic, Sir Aloof, Mr. Fifth Grade Literacy Level, AI-written profiles, and the Angry Man who flips into aggression or political rants. Along the way, they discuss therapy “growth moments” about projection and childhood triggers, share long-distance “eternal talking stage” cliffhangers (Denver, Austin/Idaho), and close by inviting listeners to commiserate, rate/review, and follow them as they “go feral” on Instagram.00:00 Podcast Kickoff01:56 From Heavy To Light03:04 Talking Stage Defined06:09 Catfish And Verification10:22 Archetypes List Begins10:54 Sex Too Soon16:47 Mr Monosyllabic23:29 Sir Aloof And Trauma Loops27:48 Projection And Triggers29:44 Sir Aloof Texting Games32:16 Aloof Date Practice Run35:30 Fifth Grade Literacy38:16 AI Profiles And Bots40:32 Angry Man Archetype42:49 Catfish And MAGA Bait47:26 Eternal Talking Stage49:22 Road Trip Cliffhangers51:40 Closing Thanks And Plugs

**Trigger Warning - Discussion of Sexual Assault**

Mel and Claire, AKA The Salty Hoes, record at 6 a.m. from home to discuss the Cornell University sexual assault case and ask the question: Have you tried not sexually assaulting women? They give a trigger warning and recap what’s been reported: Jane Doe attended a fraternity house, used alcohol and drugs, and was allegedly gang raped by seven men after becoming unable to consent; a Snapchat thread of about 57 men included an invitation described as “free pussy,” with most bystanders doing nothing, while one man later screenshot the thread and gave it to Jane Doe. They criticize the local DA for not bringing charges, Cornell’s handling (including limited expulsions/suspensions, “reflective” assignments, and denial of a tuition refund when she requested time off), and cite Cornell stats on reported sexual assault and low expulsion rates. They connect the case to broader rape culture, victim-blaming, underreporting, Title IX limitations, and urge men to intervene in everyday moments starting with simply saying “Hey” to stop harmful behavior.

00:00 Podcast Intro Banter00:34 Early Morning Recording01:23 Trigger Warning Topic Setup02:24 Cornell Case Recap03:50 Snapchat Thread Bystanders08:40 Cornell Stats Title IX Failures12:38 Why Campus Assault Persists15:30 Personal Story Helping Drunk Friend19:24 Cornell Discipline Cover Up22:41 Victim Impact Doxxing Fears30:44 Culture Backlash Title IX Limits37:23 Root Cause Dehumanizing Women39:37 When Men Close Ranks41:35 Repair Not Rug Sweep41:56 Good Men Benefit Too44:29 Performative Allyship46:34 Party Story Me Too Panic48:57 Call Out Your Friends52:04 Women’s Safety Calculus52:53 Catcalling Starts Young54:13 Train Platform Intervention56:31 Stop Playing Hero58:59 Ask Learn Listen01:02:45 Small Acts Big Change01:04:33 Challenge to Salty Bros01:05:06 Wrapping Up and Next Time

MomTok Is Dying, Mormonism Is Rebranding, and Zach’s Cybertruck Is a Dumpster on WheelsMel and Claire (the “Salty Hoes”) jump into a semi-recap of the first two episodes of The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives and the chaos around MomTok: Whitney, Mikayla, and Taylor Frankie Paul are all saying they’re leaving, with Whitney framed as having evolved since season one and now thriving with bigger projects, while Taylor’s situation feels dark, including reports of failed court-ordered drug tests and concerns the show is exploiting a real unraveling. They drag the show’s men as gross and misogynistic, praise Connor as unusually supportive, and call out Jacob pressuring Mayci for another baby while admitting parenting is “easy” because he doesn’t do the work.

They discuss Mormon cultural shifts (cross necklaces, caffeinated soda, “modern” aesthetics) as mostly superficial rebranding that keeps patriarchy intact, criticize passive-aggressive non-apologies (especially Jen), and express a soft spot for Jessi for owning her mistakes and escaping an emotionally abusive marriage.00:00 Podcast Intro Banter01:19 MomTok Falling Apart01:53 Whitney Reinvention Arc05:27 Concussion Check In06:50 DadTok Misogyny Talk09:15 Mikayla Taylor Timeline12:11 Modern Mormon Culture Shift20:20 Crosses And Rebrand24:45 Patriarchy Under Glitter27:31 Cybertruck Zach And Jacob31:42 Jen Accountability Rant34:55 Baby Pressure And Weaponized Incompetence38:37 Bachelorette Trainwreck Curiosity41:47 Dakota Fight Sparks43:28 TMZ Tape Fallout44:29 Not Fun Reality TV46:11 Leanne Mom Drama49:05 Drug Tests and Harvest54:10 Jessi Soft Spot55:28 Beauty Standards Surgery59:52 Dating App Reality Check01:04:20 Wrap Up Stay Salty

Drama, the Departed, and a Fence That Yeeted ClaireMel and Claire (the Salty Hoes) record a low-key catch-up episode after a recent watch-party event that drew a crowd for the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City premiere. They discuss the episode’s heavier focus on Mary Cosby’s grief after Robert Jr.’s death and praise the cast for rallying around her, rejecting criticism of how she grieves. They also react to Heather’s new boyfriend with skepticism, laugh over Lisa Barlow not knowing how to turn on a burner while making grilled cheese, and note John Barlow asserting himself more.

Claire shares personal updates: her mother passed unexpectedly, prompting reflections on grief, Mormons, community, and cultural differences in bereavement leave and funeral rituals, and she describes a serious bike "incident." Mel shares work-related stress and a restorative trip to the Bay Area with her son.00:00 Welcome Back Salty Hoes00:56 Chill Catch Up Setup02:15 Watch Party Highlights06:58 Chosen Family Moment12:01 Heather’s Boyfriend Reveal15:36 Jared Osmond In The Wild18:36 Lisa’s Grilled Cheese Chaos22:20 Bronwyn Without Todd24:20 Life Updates Begin25:56 Claire’s Loss And Grief29:52 Bike Crash And Aftermath36:05 Scooter Crash Story37:38 Teeth Implant Fears38:56 Work Stress Update40:38 Bay Area Weekend Trip42:28 Bereavement Leave Culture51:53 Rituals Around Death01:02:45 Life After Religion01:07:56 Messy Life Wrap Up

In this week's episode, The Salty Hoes present a case in defense of the as-yet snowflakeless Britani Bateman from the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Explore plane - gate, high-body-count-hair, unicorns, stroking cacti, and Z-list Osmond, Jared. We love you, Britani!

Please welcome our very first guest to the podcast! We have a treat for you today -- a genuine, certified expert on the topic of Bad Words. Come and learn from Dr. Anne Canavan all about swearing, its grammatical rules, and how it's good for you and your community. We cover our favorite bad words, the difference between profanity and obscenity, the notorious infix, and what the kids are saying these days. You don't want to miss this one!

CW: a lot of bad words. Use your parental judgement if you listen with your kids!

Link for The Real Housewives of Salt Lake Watch Party:

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Hosts Claire and Mel (The Salty Hoes) catch up on busy workweeks, Mel finishing backyard landscaping with help from family, and Claire’s ongoing light-bulb saga and dismantled dining fixture. They announce a free Real Housewives of Salt Lake watch party on Thursday, September 17 at 6:30 PM with partners RoHa Brewing, Tanner Humanities, and Amplify Utah, noting tickets are nearly “sold out” for headcount and themed cocktails; optional dress theme is “slutty pioneer” attire. The episode topic is Mormon end-times prepping: the expectation of a year’s “food storage,” including buying wheat through the church, the anxiety and waste it caused (mice/weevils), and cultural pressure including suggestions to own guns to protect supplies. They connect apocalyptic prepping to Mormon history and right-wing influences (Ezra Taft Benson, Cleon Skousen, John Birch Society, Glenn Beck), discuss modern splinter doomsday figures like Julie Rowe and links to the Daybell case, and note the church’s shift toward “temporal preparedness” as more general emergency readiness.

00:00 Introductions and Banter01:02 Mel’s Week and Backyard Project03:17 Claire’s Week and Light Bulb Saga04:50 Watch Party Event Details06:43 Slutty Pioneer Dress Code08:12 Mormon Preppers Explained12:02 Claire’s Wheat and Mice Disaster15:14 Church vs Prepper Businesses17:04 Footloose and Utah Flour Mills21:45 Apocalypse Messaging and Guns27:04 Glenn Beck and John Birch Links30:01 Racism Undertones in Prepping32:08 Disaster Fantasy Culture34:08 Prepper Seminars and Mom Guilt35:07 Relief Society Survival Lessons38:02 Dryer Lint and Privilege39:07 Faith Questions and Charity40:59 Brigham Young and Separatism43:49 Julie Rowe White Tent Prophecy50:30 Daybell Links and Revelation Risks52:38 Clearing Out Old Food Storage54:48 Temporal Preparedness Today57:06 Christmas Cupboard Rebrand58:21 Women Carry the Burden58:41 Wrap Up and Community Plug

Join us for a couple of dating stories, with a bonus two dozen other stories and tangents stuffed into the original stories. An interrupted narrative worthy of Christopher Nolan or, more importantly, your favorite Salty Hoes.

Don't forget to get your tickets to our Real Housewives of Salt Lake City Season 7 premiere event! September 17 at 6:30pm at RoHa Brewing. It's free, but please reserve a ticket here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-real-housewives-of-salt-lake-city-s7-premiere-watch-party-tickets-1998118060908