Efficacy and Welfare - with recently released research on Stopping Chasing Behavior in Dogs, Jason Toy and I sat down to discuss what we got from this paper. Much of our conversation flowed into how research, among other things, can be misused as vindication. How we've gotten away from understanding what the scientific process is about and how we can extrapolate information from research. It's also been a while since I've recorded a podcast, and I was slightly overcaffeinated, so there are more words from me than needed in this one (sorry, Jason!).

Furthermore, the general public needs to be better informed about how to interpret research, making it even more challenging for pet parents to decipher what it all means if anything at all. Whether fully engrossed in the scientific community or not, influencers (generally not) form and spread their opinions on what Jason and I discuss as "both sides of the fence"—the training divide between force-free dog trainers and balanced trainers.

Jason and I may differ in our practices, as do many behavior and training professionals, and even in interpreting some of the information presented in the study. Still, we both respect one another professionally, and I feel comfortable speaking for both of us when I say there's something to be said for common ground. In a sea of grey that represents individual training practices and methodologies, forcing people into one of two camps of black or white, in my opinion, is detrimental to the industry as a whole. The labels have muddied the water. We can at least agree on the extremes to start. Jason is a balanced trainer, but he's not a shock jock causing dogs to turn on their owners. I'm a positive reinforcement behavior professional, but I don't just throw food at dogs to fix all the things. These are just two examples of the mislabeling that comes along with being associated with "sides." Dare I say, there's a cock on either side of the fight, and perhaps we let the hens solve this issue for once?

You can read my extended thoughts on this topic HERE.

You can find Jason HERE at Canine Scholars or on Insta HERE

You can find me HERE at Whole Dog Behavior and Wellness or on Insta HERE.

Thanks for listening!

Dr. Amy Pike is a Board Certified Veterinary Behaviorist who owns and operates the Animal Behavior Wellness Center. In this episode we dive into a couple of hot topics that Dr. Pike and I both feel need to be more openly discussed in the dog training and behavior space. What I love the most about having this conversation with Dr. Pike is that we don't necessarily agree on everything but we both have a shared respect for each other's professional perspective and we both came to the table to listen. I also came to the table to learn, given that Dr. Pike is an expert as it pertains to animal behavior, I have utmost respect for her, and I value her perspective. I hope this episode gives you the courage to talk with colleagues and other professionals openly to listen and learn from one another as legislation looks to regulate animal behavior and training. The professionals in the industry need to be a part of the conversation. I also hope this episode opens you up to the wonderful things that you can do for your clients and their dogs when you collaborate with other professionals, whether you are a veterinarian, a dog trainer, a behavior consultant, a veterinary behaviorist, or other pet professional.

We discuss diagnosing disorders, the important reasons only veterinarians truly diagnose, the challenges encountered with that, and how collaborations may help navigate the slippery diagnosis slope.

We dive into dog trainer and behavior consultant regulations as more conversations are happening to help pet parents safely navigate the training and behavior world when their pets need help.

We talk about challenges with higher education and how bridging the gap for professionals could present significant opportunities to elevate the training and behavior industry.

Dr.Pike talks CBD, nutrition and how relying on the right professional for direction making nutritional and supplemental decisions is crucial for the pet.

I hope you enjoy the episode! Feel free to comment once you've listened to share your perspective and please share this conversation with other professionals.

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Dr. Erica Feuerbacher is an Associate Professor in the School of Animal Sciences at Virginia Tech and director of the Applied Animal Behavior & Welfare Lab, where she focuses her research on dogs and horses.

She also coordinates the online Master's program in Applied Animal Behavior & Welfare at Virginia Tech. She earned her Ph.D. in Psychology at the University of Florida in the UF Canine Cognition and Behavior Lab and her Master’s in Behavior Analysis at the University of North Texas in the Organization for Reinforcement Contingencies with Animals.

She is a Certified Applied Animal Behaviorist, a Board Certified Behavior Analyst, and a Certified Professional Dog Trainer. Her research focuses on understanding domestic animal behavior and learning from a behavior analytic perspective, using applied animal behavior to solve behavioral issues in dogs and horses, and identifying interventions that improve shelter dog welfare.

She has published her research in a variety of scientific journals and has won awards for her research. She is passionate about humane, effective animal training, and working with owners, trainers, and shelter staff to improve our interactions with animals.

👇 Check This Out:

Online Master's in Applied Animal Behavior and Welfare in Fall 2020 particularly designed for behavior professionals.

https://www.cals.vt.edu/academic-programs/online/concentrations.html

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Dr. Monica Tarantino is the Founder of the Senior Dog Revolution, a resource for pet parents and professionals to navigate age-related challenges, help senior dogs live happy, healthy lives, and make the most of the short time we have together with our senior companions. Dr. Tarantino is a veterinarian that practices in the Greater Charlotte, NC, area with a special interest in caring for dogs during the final years, weeks, and days of their lives.

Dr. Tarantino co-authored a book to help new veterinarians as they embark on their professional journey after graduation with 20 common case reviews.

With regular postings of senior dog content on her Instagram feed and her involvement with the Pet Loss Community she co-founded, Dr. Tarantino is the go-to for relatable, empathetic, helpful information regarding all things "old dog."

You can find Dr. Tarantino on Instagram (@seniordogdoc of course!) here: https://www.instagram.com/seniordogdoc/

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Dr. Greg Echols is a practicing relief veterinarian in North Carolina who has helped bring #vetlife and #vettechlife, as they say, to the forefront through his social media channels, particularly TikTok. Dr. Echols brings relatable humor in a time of staff shortages, shelter crises, pandemic puppy backlash, and a need to bridge the communication gap between pet parents and pet providers. I really enjoyed getting to know Greg a bit more and hope you enjoy our conversation primarily centered around social media as an influence for client and public education, not just on all things pertinent to pets but to the human relationship dynamic that often gets lost under the umbrella of business.

Dr. Echols veterinary journey began in 2007, pursuing his bachelor’s in animal care and Management. After receiving an associates degree, he went after his bachelor's degree in lab animal science at NC A&T State University. During this transition, he gained significant experience by working at an animal hospital as a veterinary assistant for 7.5 years. Echols went on to obtain his DVM from Virginia- Maryland College of Veterinary Medicine in 2020. He completed a one-year emergency and surgery internship and then transitioned to an associate for one year.

Watch the Podcast with Dr. Echols on YouTube HERE.

You can find Dr. Greg Echols and share some very relatable laughs here:

Website: https://www.dogterecholsrelief.com/

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@dogter_echols

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dogter_echols/

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Dr. Mariana Pardo is a board-certified emergency and critical care specialist at the Veterinary Medical Center of Long Island. Dr. Pardo earned her veterinary degree in 2009 from Universidad Mayor in Santiago, Chile.

She came to the United States wanting to pursue an Emergency and Critical Care specialization. She worked as an ICU technician for 4 years in Miami while she worked on validating her degree in the states. She then finished two emergency and critical care internships at the University of Georgia and the University of Florida and completed her emergency and critical care residency at Cornell University in 2018.

She is bilingual and merges her love of traveling with being an international speaker. Her greatest passion is teaching and has made it one of her missions to give back to the Latin American community as much as possible by participating in numerous continuing education programs. She is passionate about advocating diversity and inclusion in veterinary medicine and is the mentorship director of the Latinx Veterinary Medical Association and is a member of the ACVECC Diversity and Inclusion Committee.

IG: https://instagram.com/criticalcareveterinarian

FB: https://www.facebook.com/criticalcareveterinarian

Latinx Veterinary Medical Association: https://latinxvma.org

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Dr. Ashley Bourgeois, DVM, Dip ACVD, is a board-certified veterinary dermatologist passionate about providing practical knowledge to general practitioners to help itchy pets! She completed her bachelor’s degree at Iowa State University and graduated from the University of Missouri’s College of Veterinary Medicine in 2010. She then completed a one-year small animal internship at Purdue University. Upon finishing her internship, she accepted a residency position with the Animal Dermatology Clinic’s Tustin, California location in 2011. She became a Diplomate of the American College of Veterinary Dermatology in 2014. Dr. Bourgeois moved to Portland, Oregon in 2016 to help expand the company. She is an owner within the company and on the board of directors. She has a strong interest in autoimmune skin diseases, allergies, cytology, and otology.

In her leisure, Dr. Bourgeois enjoys outdoor activities, traveling, and watching sports. She and her husband stay busy with their daughter, son, and rescue Lab/Boxer/Pit mix. Dr. Bourgeois is passionate about educating veterinarians in dermatology and work/life integration through her podcast, lecturing, and social media presence (The Derm Vet).

The Derm Vet on IG and Facebook, The Derm Vet podcast, The Derm Nerds online community

thedermvet.com

https://www.instagram.com/thedermvet

https://www.facebook.com/thedermvet

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Dr. Nicholas Dodman - Professor Emeritus, Tufts University; President and CEO of the Center for Canine Behavior Studies

Dr. Nicholas Dodman attended Glasgow University Veterinary School in Scotland where he received a BVMS (DVM equivalent). He is board-certified by the American College of Veterinary Anesthesiologists and the American College of Veterinary Behaviorists.

In 1981, Dr. Dodman immigrated to the United States where he became a faculty member of Tufts University Cummings School of Veterinary Medicine in Massachusetts. Shortly after his arrival, Dr. Dodman became interested in behavioral pharmacology and the field of animal behavior. After spending several years in this area of research, in 1986 he founded the Animal Behavior Clinic—one of the first of its kind—at Tufts. Since 1990 he has devoted his time to the specialty practice of animal behavior. He received board certification in animal behavior from the American College of Veterinary Behaviorists in 1995. Dr. Dodman is currently Professor Emeritus at Tufts University and President of the Center for Canine Behavior Studies.

Dr. Dodman is one of the world’s most noted and celebrated veterinary behaviorists. He has written five acclaimed bestselling books and has authored two textbooks and over 300 articles & contributions to scientific books and journals. He also holds several U.S. patents for various inventions related to the control of animal behavior. Dr. Dodman appears regularly on radio and television as a behavioral expert.

Dr. Dodman is a member of the American College of Veterinary Anesthesiologists, the American College of Veterinary Behaviorists, and he is a Leadership Council member of the Humane Society Veterinary Medical Association and is HSVMA co-state representative for Massachusetts and Maryland.

Books

The Dog Who Loved Too Much: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/0553375261

The Cat Who Cried for Help: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/0553104535

Website

CCBS: https://www.centerforcaninebehaviorstudies.org

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Dr. Narda G. Robinson is the country’s leading authority on scientific complementary and alternative veterinary medicine (CAVM). With more than two decades of practicing, teaching, and writing about holistic approaches in both veterinary and human osteopathic medicine, Dr. Robinson delivers straight talk on CAVM to help healthcare professionals and owners sort fact from fiction.

A scholar, researcher, and widely read author on evidence-based approaches to CAVM, Dr. Robinson holds the only professorship at a veterinary college designed specifically to investigate the legitimacy of CAVM. In 1988, she launched Colorado State University’s first integrative medicine service, and she now heads the Colorado State University Center for Comparative and Integrative Pain Medicine.

Dr. Robinson holds a Bachelor of Arts degree from Harvard/Radcliffe, a doctorate in osteopathic medicine (DO) from the Texas College of Osteopathic Medicine, and both a doctorate in veterinary medicine (DVM) and a master’s degree in biomedical sciences (MS) from CSU.

She has also earned the highest membership status of fellow within the American Academy of Medical Acupuncture (FAAMA) and serves on the American Board of Medical Acupuncture (DABMA).

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